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Posted on 2/19/21 at 6:37 am to BigTastey
The coolest thing about the Harsin hire is there is no rebuild. Gus didn't leave the cupboard empty. It may have been a down cycle in recruiting but they have top 10 talent. So no excuses.
Posted on 2/19/21 at 6:38 am to 3down10
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Before Auburn fans start crying:
Your AD is stupid.
He must be best friends with Ray Tanner at SC.
As bad as Muschamp is/was, Shane Beamer is in no way, shape or form a better head coach than Will Muschamp. He might be a better PERSON, but not a coach.
Posted on 2/19/21 at 6:48 am to 3down10
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Your AD is stupid
Allen Greene may be a lot of things, but stupid isn't one of them. Stupid is the AD before him who gave a very mediocre extension that paid him like a top-5 coach.
A stupid AD would've ignored a 66th ranked recruiting class. He would've ignored the record vs. UGA and LSU. He would've ignored the losses to Tennessee and South Carolina. He would've ignored the zero QB development. He would've ignored the lack of SEC O-lineman.
This post was edited on 2/19/21 at 7:42 am
Posted on 2/19/21 at 11:58 am to Animal
Sam is exactly what we need. Someone to right the ship and build a solid foundation with good recruiting relationships, and then pass the torch to the next guy.
We need a decade of stability. Not saying Sam will be here for that whole decade, but I want to give him as much time as he needs
We need a decade of stability. Not saying Sam will be here for that whole decade, but I want to give him as much time as he needs
This post was edited on 2/19/21 at 11:59 am
Posted on 2/19/21 at 3:10 pm to Leto II
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Allen Greene may be a lot of things, but stupid isn't one of them. Stupid is the AD before him who gave a very mediocre extension that paid him like a top-5 coach.
A stupid AD would've ignored a 66th ranked recruiting class. He would've ignored the record vs. UGA and LSU. He would've ignored the losses to Tennessee and South Carolina. He would've ignored the zero QB development. He would've ignored the lack of SEC O-lineman.
I notice you didn't say a stupid AD would've fired a coach without a real plan on who to hire next causing them to end up with a worse coach.
Posted on 2/19/21 at 3:16 pm to BigTastey
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And where do you coach? So in reality this is just a lead in for trashing Auburn from another fan of George Wallace U.
^butthurt because someone thought his favorite team hired a worse coach.
As an Alabama fan, I'm happy with your hire. I don't see him ever winning against Alabama. Gus had a knack for causing Saban troubles, this guy isn't causing anyone problems.
Posted on 2/19/21 at 4:15 pm to 3down10
Dude, we get it. You're on record as saying Harsin < Gustav.
You can only do that by ignoring all quantitative data.
If four seasons go by and AU is winning at less than a 66% clip overall, has won fewer than 18 regular season SEC games, has won fewer than 2 games combined against Bama and UGa, and is winless against P5 teams in bowl games (all of which were Gustav's numbers in those categories in his first four years at AU), I'll congratulate you on your perspicacity.
Until then, you don't have a fricking clue what you're talking about.
You can only do that by ignoring all quantitative data.
If four seasons go by and AU is winning at less than a 66% clip overall, has won fewer than 18 regular season SEC games, has won fewer than 2 games combined against Bama and UGa, and is winless against P5 teams in bowl games (all of which were Gustav's numbers in those categories in his first four years at AU), I'll congratulate you on your perspicacity.
Until then, you don't have a fricking clue what you're talking about.
This post was edited on 2/19/21 at 4:21 pm
Posted on 2/19/21 at 4:25 pm to FearlessFreep
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Dude, we get it. You're on record as saying Harsin < Gustav.
You can only do that by ignoring all quantitative data.
If four seasons go by and AU is winning at less than a 66% clip overall, has won fewer than 18 regular season SEC games, has won fewer than 2 games combined against Bama and UGa, and is winless against P5 teams in bowl games, I'll congratulate you on your perspicacity.
Until then, you don't have a fricking clue what you're talking about.
What quantitative data? You mean where you cherry picked a few years in the middle of the past 6, filtered it down to only conference games so you could ignore bad losses, then proceeded to act as if the MWC is equal to the SEC and your coach is equal to Saban?
You know what the best part about all that shite you cherry picked?
The coach you fired actually contributed to the very few losses Saban had.
Meanwhile the coach you hired had 1 total ranked win over that same timespan.
Posted on 2/19/21 at 4:46 pm to 3down10
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Georgia: Same Coach
Have an upvote
Posted on 2/19/21 at 4:57 pm to 3down10
quote:Well, since it appears you are struggling with facts and logic, I'll try to dumb this down for you as much as I can.
What quantitative data? You mean where you cherry picked a few years in the middle of the past 6, filtered it down to only conference games so you could ignore bad losses, then proceeded to act as if the MWC is equal to the SEC and your coach is equal to Saban?
Your contention is that Boise State suffered under Harsin compared to their history, and that any conference loss they suffered was a 'bad' loss, and that they were in decline when he took the AU job.
Boise State's conference record in the 7 years Harsin was HC (2014-2020): 48-10
Boise State's conference record in the 7 years prior to when Harsin was HC (2007-2013): 49-6
Boise State's conference record in the final 2 seasons when Harsin was HC (2019-2020): 14-1
Boise State's conference record in the final 2 seasons prior to when Harsin was HC (2012-2013): 13-3
Boise State's record against P5 teams in the 7 years Harsin was HC (2014-2020): 7-5
Boise State's record against P5 teams in the 7 years prior to when Harsin was HC (2007-2013): 7-4
Wow, that's a helluva decline, isn't it. Let me know how I 'cherry-picked' that data.
As for the rest of your factually-challenged musings, I guess we'll find out.
Posted on 2/19/21 at 5:38 pm to FearlessFreep
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Well, since it appears you are struggling with facts and logic, I'll try to dumb this down for you as much as I can.
Your contention is that Boise State suffered under Harsin compared to their history, and that any conference loss they suffered was a 'bad' loss, and that they were in decline when he took the AU job.
They have been in decline. To quote a Boise St fan, many of which wanted him to go, they have been in "stagnation" for years.
As for the rest of your data, you are just picking stats that suite your purpose.
Because here is the reality. AP Poll final season rankings.
Boise St before Harsin
2006: #5
2007: NR
2008: #11
2009: #4
2010: #9
2011: #8
2012: #18
2013: NR
Harsin Era:
2014: #16
2015: NR
2016: NR
2017: #22
2018: #23
2019: #23
2020: NR
And that is why Boise St fans are happy he is gone, outside some with sentimental feelings due to his history.
They went from a team who was considered a "BCS Buster" to a team battling Fresno St for a spot at the bottom of the top25.
Posted on 2/19/21 at 6:04 pm to 3down10
quote:Can't argue much with that, although in 2013, BSU's final season under Peterson (in which they finished 8-5, by far worse than any season Harsin was HC) led them to being unranked in preseason for the first time in 6 years. As we AU folk are well aware, how you start the year in the polls often has a significant impact on how you end up. It should be noted that BSU has been ranked at some point in each of the 7 seasons Harsin was there, despite starting out unranked in the preseason polls 5 out of 7 years.
Boise St before Harsin
2006: #5
2007: NR
2008: #11
2009: #4
2010: #9
2011: #8
2012: #18
2013: NR
Harsin Era:
2014: #16
2015: NR
2016: NR
2017: #22
2018: #23
2019: #23
2020: NR
quote:There were quite a few Bama fans who were happy to see Stallings go in '96, especially since they replaced him with a young, dynamic HC in DuBose. Perhaps you were one of them.
And that is why Boise St fans are happy he is gone, outside some with sentimental feelings due to his history.
This post was edited on 2/19/21 at 6:07 pm
Posted on 2/19/21 at 6:12 pm to TrueLefty
Was this the Arkansas team that was missing half their starters and numerous second teamers. Literally had guys playing who had barely played all year. Congratulations to Missouri, I guess.
Posted on 2/19/21 at 6:15 pm to TrueLefty
Mike Leach, Mizzou coach, and Jimbo are maybes on whether or not they are upgrades yet.
The downgrades are: Beamer, Hardin
No change: Kirby
I think the rest are inarguably upgrades..
The downgrades are: Beamer, Hardin
No change: Kirby
I think the rest are inarguably upgrades..
Posted on 2/19/21 at 7:10 pm to 3down10
Perhaps our AD should have conversed with a trolling retard like yourself before making the hire? The fact is you don't know shite about Boise State you stupid motherfricker
Posted on 2/19/21 at 7:55 pm to Poker Dough
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Perhaps our AD should have conversed with a trolling retard like yourself before making the hire? The fact is you don't know shite about Boise State you stupid motherfricker
I was glad Missouri passed both Heupel and Harsin. Reason is not the right fit and Heupel did mention he didn't like to recruit when he was Missouri OC. Harsin just not a very good recruiter and doesn't recruits in the southeastern states.
Posted on 2/19/21 at 8:31 pm to TrueLefty
Yeah you passed on him but went with a guy that worked for Harsin, and Gus twice FWIW. Cute story, but not true. You do realize it's not just the head coach that recruits right?
Posted on 2/19/21 at 8:37 pm to Poker Dough
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Yeah you passed on him but went with a guy that worked for Harsin, and Gus twice FWIW. Cute story, but not true. You do realize it's not just the head coach that recruits right?
Drinkwitz is recruiting a lot better than what Odom have done when he was the HC at Missouri. I am saying I like Drinkwitz style of coaching and is a good recruiter. Also he has experience recruiting in the Southeaster states. That is what Missouri needed. Auburn not really needed much help. Heupel is similar to Leach. I want a balance offense. Not 90 air raid offense.
Posted on 2/19/21 at 10:54 pm to FearlessFreep
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Can't argue much with that, although in 2013, BSU's final season under Peterson (in which they finished 8-5, by far worse than any season Harsin was HC) led them to being unranked in preseason for the first time in 6 years. As we AU folk are well aware, how you start the year in the polls often has a significant impact on how you end up. It should be noted that BSU has been ranked at some point in each of the 7 seasons Harsin was there, despite starting out unranked in the preseason polls 5 out of 7 years.
The only ranks that matters is end of year rankings. Being over ranked during a season isn't an achievement.
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There were quite a few Bama fans who were happy to see Stallings go in '96, especially since they replaced him with a young, dynamic HC in DuBose. Perhaps you were one of them.
I didn't know anyone who was happy Stallings retired. At best not happy with how he handled the NCAA. And I thought Dubose was more because he played for Bear and the good ole boys got their way when they should have hired someone with experience.
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