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re: Which has more potential? Oklahoma or A&M...
Posted on 11/6/25 at 10:12 am to aggressor
Posted on 11/6/25 at 10:12 am to aggressor
For awhile there, it was pretty bitter against Tech. Mike Leach, gave that school identity, and had ATMs number for years.
(If you don’t recall, back in 2001, tech tore down their own goal posts and threw it into the ATM section and a brawl broke out in the stands).
However, once the pirate left, ATM joined the SEC, lots of Houston, Austin, Dallas kids that couldn’t get into Texas or ATM that would have thought about Tech (maybe OU) started going to places like LSU and Ole Miss…. The “rivalry” just kinda turned into indifference.
There are Texas and Texas ATM, and then there are the rest when it comes to schools in Texas.
(If you don’t recall, back in 2001, tech tore down their own goal posts and threw it into the ATM section and a brawl broke out in the stands).
However, once the pirate left, ATM joined the SEC, lots of Houston, Austin, Dallas kids that couldn’t get into Texas or ATM that would have thought about Tech (maybe OU) started going to places like LSU and Ole Miss…. The “rivalry” just kinda turned into indifference.
There are Texas and Texas ATM, and then there are the rest when it comes to schools in Texas.
Posted on 11/6/25 at 10:43 am to Tex117
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Who has more money. Texas or OU?
Texas has ALWAYS had more money than OU. Top recruiting classes, resources, etc. it’s somehow never really mattered. Oklahoma as a football program ranked 7th in estimated value, not far behind Alabama. A bunch of schools that are statistically poorer than OU, talking about money need to relax. OU isn’t going anywhere.
This post was edited on 11/6/25 at 10:44 am
Posted on 11/6/25 at 10:47 am to RedDirt
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OU isn’t going anywhere.
You're absolutely right.
Posted on 11/6/25 at 10:49 am to Tex117
(If you don’t recall, back in 2001, tech tore down their own goal posts and threw it into the ATM section and a brawl broke out in the stands).
Anyone who hasn't seen the video of this one it is watch-worthy.
If the tops of goal posts were sharpened into a point I think they would have impaled some of the aggie fans.
Anyone who hasn't seen the video of this one it is watch-worthy.
If the tops of goal posts were sharpened into a point I think they would have impaled some of the aggie fans.
Posted on 11/6/25 at 11:08 am to SPAGHETTI PLATE
OU has done it countless times. Even with A&M have more resources, mental edge is priceless.
Posted on 11/6/25 at 12:06 pm to JacieNY
Has it been lost to the internet? I'm trying to find it.
Posted on 11/6/25 at 12:08 pm to RedDirt
Now that everyone is free to funnel serious (fricking serious) money into their programs, the world has changed. OU has and always was very good at cheating and raiding Texas for recruits.
OU is at risk.
OU is at risk.
Posted on 11/6/25 at 12:25 pm to SPAGHETTI PLATE
A&M has had more potential than Oklahoma for the past 30 years but they have never taken advantage of it. They are better now then in 1993 or 1994. And yes, I was a student at A&M and at Kyle field the day they beat Mizzou 77-0.
Posted on 11/6/25 at 7:11 pm to Tex117
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OU is at risk.
I know this is going to be surprising to you, but no one was ever banned from donating to a football program. Oklahoma state had one of the richest guys on the planet writing checks for decades, and you know it worked for a little while. But they were never better than upper middle class. And like I said the OU football program is worth more than every other school not Georgia and Texas.
You can’t have it both ways, OU being at risk but teams like Alabama are fine? you do know that right? Logically, you can’t.
If OU is at risk, then so is every school not in Florida or Texas, basically the entire SEC.
Or are recruits going to refuse money to play in a bunch of rich northern and west coast states to play in poor southern states because….SEC?? lol… do you see how that works? Really basic logic bud. If money’s the deciding factor here the SEC is essentially dead except maybe 2-3 schools.
Posted on 11/6/25 at 7:14 pm to Tex117
And we thank you for your concern.
Posted on 11/6/25 at 7:16 pm to 6columns
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You're absolutely right.
What in the frick makes you think Mizzou is safe here? OU is going the way of Nebraska because money talks? But Missouri is some kind of bastion of wealth and culture, lolol. They made an entire TV series about the Ozarks dude, no one’s itching to get into Missouri.
Posted on 11/6/25 at 7:17 pm to SPAGHETTI PLATE
Just think, in just 14 years A&M can celebrate the 100th anniversary of its NC
Posted on 11/6/25 at 7:32 pm to aggressor
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atmosphere in the SEC and that matters in recruiting, especially when other schools have more money than you do already
Since you guys apparently can’t read…
Value of the top College Football Programs:
Texas Longhorns: $2.38 billion
Georgia Bulldogs: $1.92 billion
Ohio State Buckeyes: $1.9 billion
Notre Dame Fighting Irish: $1.85 billion
Michigan Wolverines: $1.83 billion
Alabama Crimson Tide: $1.74 billion
Oklahoma Sooners: $1.49 billion
USC Trojans: $1.4 billion
Tennessee Volunteers: $1.37 billion
Posted on 11/6/25 at 8:04 pm to RedDirt
The richest schools (and their alumni) will surpass the ones that aren’t. Not that there won’t be exceptions. But day in day out, the schools who spend more money on average will do better than the schools that don’t. On average.
A storied program will not save any program for the storm that is hitting now and will continue.
This post was edited on 11/6/25 at 9:16 pm
Posted on 11/6/25 at 8:35 pm to JacieNY
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Anyone who hasn't seen the video of this one it is watch-worthy.
I remember that well…I was there in the visitor section when it happened. Set the tone for my feelings about Texas tech for decades to come. It was pretty exciting though I will admit. I only relaxed on that when Kingsbury was our OC here
Posted on 11/6/25 at 8:59 pm to Flying DeLorean
This is an awesome pissing contest.
A&M has had enormous resources for years and has yet to prove we can win a conference championship or national championship.
OU is going to have to prove they can compete long term in the SEC. You have played insignificant schools for too long.
A&M has had enormous resources for years and has yet to prove we can win a conference championship or national championship.
OU is going to have to prove they can compete long term in the SEC. You have played insignificant schools for too long.
Posted on 11/6/25 at 9:05 pm to JacieNY
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(If you don’t recall, back in 2001, tech tore down their own goal posts and threw it into the ATM section and a brawl broke out in the stands).
Anyone who hasn't seen the video of this one it is watch-worthy.
If the tops of goal posts were sharpened into a point I think they would have impaled some of the aggie fans.
My parents were in the stands, my 70 year old Dad at the time had some Tech student try to start a fight with him. My Mom was terrified and refused to ever go back to Lubbock again. It was a bad scene. Weirdest thing was Tech was favored and that wasn't a good A&M team.
This post was edited on 11/6/25 at 9:08 pm
Posted on 11/6/25 at 10:35 pm to SPAGHETTI PLATE
Depends on the coach. OU is the safer bet due to history. But A&M definitely has potential.
Posted on 11/6/25 at 10:53 pm to SPAGHETTI PLATE
Posted on 11/7/25 at 12:06 am to RedDirt
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I know this is going to be surprising to you, but no one was ever banned from donating to a football program. Oklahoma state had one of the richest guys on the planet writing checks for decades, and you know it worked for a little while. But they were never better than upper middle class. And like I said the OU football program is worth more than every other school not Georgia and Texas.
If NIL happened 25 years ago T Boone would’ve wiped OU off the face of the earth. Writing checks for facilities is nothing compared to writing checks for players.
As far as who will be good and who will be at risk going forward…..on the macro level the SEC and B1G schools will generate far more from their media deals and so the floor will be higher at all of those schools. Only the ACC and B12 schools with big outside donors like Tech and SMU will be able to compete. Which will likely drive the last remaining schools with value to leave their conference
As far as which SEC schools will be a the top. Texas, Tennessee, A&M all have big money and a clear appetite to spend long term. Florida and Georgia have wealthy alumni. Surprisingly Ole Miss has several wealthy donors. It’s one thing to have the rich alumni and another thing for them to have the appetite to spend. LSU and Auburn have guys, but how long will that last?
It remains to be seen which schools will be able to keep up. I think the biggest question marks are Oklahoma and Alabama. They have the most to lose and are at the biggest risk of slipping long term. Their whole existence is built on ancient history and great coaches easily recruiting other, better states with better talent. That talent wants money and is slowly not caring at all about history
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