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re: Where Every SEC school ranks in the 2026 U.S. News 2025 college rankings

Posted on 9/26/25 at 10:28 am to
Posted by BigBro
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Posted on 9/26/25 at 10:28 am to
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That figure for Georgia is including Georgia Tech's ENORMOUS spend, along with the other Georgia system schools. UGA's is still an impressive $600 million:

And both of these things were posted in the info I posted. It breaks out GT and Georgia.

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That figure for Texas must include every Texas system school

Which it clearly states..
The University of Texas SYSTEM

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Edit: BigBro demonstrating why you can't just plug shite into AI and copy/paste the results.

BreakawayZou83 demonstrating that not everyone on tRant can read.
Posted by Gunga Din
Oklahoma
Member since Jul 2020
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Posted on 9/26/25 at 10:34 am to
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This is an idiotic statement.

When other rankings come out, no one reacts.

When UCLA was ranked in US News as the top public university, they made banners all over campus about it. UF did the same one year when they were in the top 5 public universities. When US News changed their formula and Vandy dropped a few spots, their Chancellor publiched an open letter about it. Columbia was busted (by one of their own professors) for lying about certain datapoints to intentionally and specifically game the US News rankings.

Reasonable people can disgree about methodlogies and the value of rankings at all, but the US News rankings are the only ones that academics care about and react to at all.


I think this has more to do with the public's awareness of the USNWR's rankings compared to other rankings that are done by more eggheaded publications and institutions.

It is all marketing with USNWR
Posted by LSUTigresFan
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Posted on 9/26/25 at 11:01 am to
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I don't understand what one studies in Computer Science anymore.

Everything (jobs) is so far removed (high-level) from the blood and guts of hardware and coding these days.


That's not necessarily true. There is still a demand for low level jobs but the issue is "everyone" are web developers and not systems engineers also there is a lot of fraud data science and machine learning/AI engineers out there too.

Quant firms still hire computer scientist (a lot more phds) for lower level high performance computing and for quantitative researchers/developers.

The jobs that are being hurt the most are entry level jobs though in general.
Posted by MtVernon
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Posted on 9/26/25 at 11:04 am to
It just seems back in the 80's and 90's Computer Science and EE were a lot more hand in hand.

Now Computer Science has gone more "soft" while EE is handling what's under the hood.

In my opinion.
Posted by LSUTigresFan
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Posted on 9/26/25 at 11:20 am to
Sure, EE is doing the design of hardware and embedded systems components, but computer scientist are still doing the operating systems part mostly and they still need to have knowledge of how the hardware works.

Obviously not everyone with a CS degree knows what they are supposed to. There are a lot of people doing the online programs that offer MSCS that don't have any CS undergraduate background, coding background, or related degrees too. The field is definitely oversaturated.

Computer scientist are also the ones mostly doing machine learning and ai. The whole thing is a team effort really.

Like I said, the minority of CS graduates are able to do low level coding most people are coding at higher level abstractions.
This post was edited on 9/26/25 at 11:22 am
Posted by MtVernon
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Posted on 9/26/25 at 11:25 am to
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There are a lot of people doing the online programs that offer MSCS that don't have any CS undergraduate background


Well in the 2000's, "lesser" schools started offering CS degrees that IMO were nothing more than what we called MIS back then.

That wasn't fair to the CS grads from more respectable programs.
Posted by LSUTigresFan
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Posted on 9/26/25 at 11:30 am to
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Well in the 2000's, "lesser" schools started offering CS degrees that IMO were nothing more than what we called MIS back then.

That wasn't fair to the CS grads from more respectable programs.


Well, both UT Austin and GaTech offer an online MSCS degree and GaTech's acceptance rate for it was near ~70% while UT Austin's was near ~30% which many people feel like it weakens the masters degree from the universities.

But I agree, there is a difference in education in CS and math and you see it when you attend a top 10 university versus something like Western Governors University.
Posted by The Sultan of Swine
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Posted on 9/26/25 at 11:33 am to
top 200
Posted by lewis and herschel
Member since Nov 2009
15640 posts
Posted on 9/26/25 at 11:51 am to
Yawn, queer cult with oil money.
Posted by Jster15
Member since Aug 2019
2983 posts
Posted on 9/26/25 at 12:10 pm to
That was the purpose of the Permanent University Fund established by the Texas Legislature in 1876 to utilize state owned assets. Land, oil and gas, et al., to fund both the Texas and A&M university systems of higher education.
Posted by lewis and herschel
Member since Nov 2009
15640 posts
Posted on 9/26/25 at 12:26 pm to
Tech has been on an enrollment drive is why their have a higher number. Tech either has or has been trying to double their enrollment.
Posted by KamaCausey_LSU
Member since Apr 2013
17043 posts
Posted on 9/26/25 at 12:41 pm to
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Looking at SEC Engineering School Rankings:

Those are grad school rankings.
Posted by LSUTigresFan
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Posted on 9/26/25 at 1:57 pm to
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Tech has been on an enrollment drive is why their have a higher number. Tech either has or has been trying to double their enrollment.


I’m talking about specifically for their online MSCS program. Their in-person is below 10% I believe. They have like 12k-14k students in their online MSCS program I think.
This post was edited on 9/26/25 at 1:58 pm
Posted by madmaxvol
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Posted on 9/26/25 at 2:29 pm to
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Looking at SEC Engineering School Rankings:


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Those are grad school rankings.




Sorry...where I have always worked, an undergraduate engineering degree was not a terminal degree.

They break down the list for undergrad Engineering Programs where Doctorates are the terminal degree vs those where Doctorates are not offered...so, that is why you will see the "Doctorate" reference in the heading.

Here are the Undergraduate Engineering Schools Where Doctorate is Offered Rankings:

#11. Texas
#17. Texas A&M
#32. Florida
#32. Vanderbilt
#57. Auburn
#64. Tennessee
#86. Alabama
#86. Georgia
#86. Kentucky
#96. LSU
#96. Mississippi State
#96. Arkansas
#96. Missouri
#96. Oklahoma
#112. South Carolina
#150. Ole Miss


So, LSU is up from #125 in Engineering Grad Programs to #96 in Undergrad Programs. So...congrats???
Posted by TFangs
The Beach
Member since Jul 2022
196 posts
Posted on 9/26/25 at 2:51 pm to
The last time that I checked, the subject matter is the same no matter where you went school from the Ivy League to the SEC to a community college. Most of the criteria taken into consideration for these rankings mean absolutely nothing to employers. As a leader, I’m more interested in the person (the talent) than what school they attended. The formal interview process and time on the job will reveal it all, because making decisions based on a candidate’s school’s perceived reputation is simply fool’s gold.
Posted by CaliHorn
Los Angeles
Member since Apr 2025
658 posts
Posted on 9/26/25 at 3:04 pm to
I don’t think that’s entirely correct. Schools with more selective admissions have students who are prepared to work at an accelerated pace. There’s a difference between UCLA students who study on Saturday nights and kids from most schools who don’t.

That said, I think the differences aren’t as significant at a certain point. The top schools have selective admissions and highly competitive, driven students who force others to work harder.

But that’s the top top schools. Not sure there’s a huge difference between 60 to 100 or so.

The reality is, a lot of hiring from top schools has nothing to do with rankings and more to do with employer experience with students from certain schools. Just usually is the case that smarter students who worked harder to get into better schools end up being better hires.
This post was edited on 9/26/25 at 3:23 pm
Posted by nuwaydawg
Member since Nov 2007
2114 posts
Posted on 9/26/25 at 3:12 pm to
All this talk about Electrical Engineers brought me back to my working days.

The manufacturing company that I worked for, went to Norfolk, Virginia and hired retired Navy Chiefs (some submariners/carriers).

Those guys were the most, how should I put this...aggravating, argumentative, blustery people I have ever known.

But they knew what they were doing, their training, experience and troubleshooting was excellent.

I asked one, one time, "Why are we hiring Navy guys".

His reply. "Army and Air Force can contract civilians to do their work, but when you are hundreds of miles off shore or hundreds of feet deep, It's hard to call a plumber".

When I got rimmed, it cost me a huge bar bill.

Edit. The electrical engineers I worked with were "strange" LOL.
This post was edited on 9/26/25 at 3:15 pm
Posted by Murph4HOF
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Posted on 9/26/25 at 3:34 pm to
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AAU
A big circle jerk that means absolutely nothing.
Posted by Murph4HOF
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Posted on 9/26/25 at 3:37 pm to
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Now Computer Science has gone more "soft" while EE is handling what's under the hood.

The difference between hardware and software guys is pretty obvious, unless you're around guys who graduated college in the 80s or early 90s who can easily do both.
Posted by NobodyImportant
Montana
Member since Nov 2024
1821 posts
Posted on 9/26/25 at 3:52 pm to
Didn't Texas used to be in the teens on the Vandy level? Like I said, it is a surprise. Texas is a very good academic school
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