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re: Where does Auburn have an advantage over Bama this year in football?
Posted on 8/3/17 at 10:24 am to CBandits82
Posted on 8/3/17 at 10:24 am to CBandits82
I think Auburn matches up very well against Alabama when looking at projected starters. If both teams stay healthy this is going to be a hell of a game particularly because it is at Auburn.
I'd like to hear more from Auburn fans about depth behind these projected starters. I know Alabama has a bunch of very talented 5/4 star guys at virtually every back up spot and actual competition for some of those guys to be starters at some point this year. How is Auburn's depth this year? This is after all the 12th game of the season so most likely we will be talking about quite a few second string guys having to be major contributors and third string guys having to provide in game depth.
I'd like to hear more from Auburn fans about depth behind these projected starters. I know Alabama has a bunch of very talented 5/4 star guys at virtually every back up spot and actual competition for some of those guys to be starters at some point this year. How is Auburn's depth this year? This is after all the 12th game of the season so most likely we will be talking about quite a few second string guys having to be major contributors and third string guys having to provide in game depth.
This post was edited on 8/3/17 at 10:35 am
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Posted on 8/3/17 at 10:25 am to Crimson Wraith
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AU was 18th in Total Def last year, 5th in the SEC.
Actually ranked #28 in the ncaa.org "Total Defense" category...
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Posted on 8/3/17 at 10:30 am to ChexMix
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Fitzpatrick is the only player i would take over any of our players.
Until the end of the season and Bama is 11-1 headed to the SEC championship game and Auburn is 9-3. Then the talk will turn to how much more talent Bama has than everybody and Saban should never lose a game.
Posted on 8/3/17 at 10:32 am to SummerOfGeorge
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If it makes you feel better, I probably hate those people more than you do.
Not possible.
Posted on 8/3/17 at 10:43 am to bamasgot13
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It's pointless to evaluate that way though b/c you evaluate against what you'll be playing against.
Did you honestly not think thats what he meant by saying "AU o-line vs bama" ect...
Oh, nvm I forgot that you rednecks struggle with reading comprehension and need simple sentence structures to understand a point.
Posted on 8/3/17 at 10:45 am to elposter
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I'd like to hear more from Auburn fans about depth behind these projected starters.
Auburn's second string D can start for the vast majority of SEC teams.
OL looks good
WR's appear to be the best group of receivers AU has seen in a few moons. LB depth looks strong. DB is talented with minimal depth. DL depth looks good.
QB depth is good. RB depth is not as strong as I would like, but decent.
Key will be the intangibles like leadership amongst the players, discipline, execution, united as a team, etc.
Posted on 8/3/17 at 10:46 am to TigerFan4040
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Did you honestly not think thats what he meant by saying "AU o-line vs bama" ect...
Oh, nvm I forgot that you rednecks struggle with reading comprehension and need simple sentence structures to understand a point.
Considering in the OP he uses Auburn's running backs against Bama's running backs and Auburn's Oline vs Bama's as examples, I think you are the one with reading comprehension problems.
This post was edited on 8/3/17 at 10:47 am
Posted on 8/3/17 at 10:53 am to East Coast Band
Auburn fans-32 teeth
Bama fans-16 teeth, one for each NC.
Bama fans-16 teeth, one for each NC.
Posted on 8/3/17 at 11:05 am to elposter
On the Defensive Line it will be DT- Derrick Brown/Byron Cowart and then Dontavius Russell/Andrew Williams. DE- Marlon Davidson/Nick Coe and Buck- Jeff Holland/Paul James.
LB will be alot of combinations of Tre Williams/Darrell Williams/Deshaun Davis/ Montavious Atkinson.
Those two units imo are two of Auburn's biggest strengths. I am not completely sold on the Offensive Line yet. I know Alabama has a great WR corps, and it's one of the biggest strengths. However it's not as much drop off in Auburn's as people seem to believe. Kyle Davis, NCM, and Eli Stove are all NFL caliber WR's. Then throw in Darius Slayton, Marquis Mcclain, and Ryan Davis and that's a pretty deep group.
LB will be alot of combinations of Tre Williams/Darrell Williams/Deshaun Davis/ Montavious Atkinson.
Those two units imo are two of Auburn's biggest strengths. I am not completely sold on the Offensive Line yet. I know Alabama has a great WR corps, and it's one of the biggest strengths. However it's not as much drop off in Auburn's as people seem to believe. Kyle Davis, NCM, and Eli Stove are all NFL caliber WR's. Then throw in Darius Slayton, Marquis Mcclain, and Ryan Davis and that's a pretty deep group.
Posted on 8/3/17 at 11:42 am to elposter
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I'd like to hear more from Auburn fans about depth behind these projected starters
Me too.
How skilled are the rotation players on Auburns squad.
Posted on 8/3/17 at 11:49 am to BoCam2
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Opinion of a random AU fan message board poster:
AU QB/RBs/TE/WR vs Bama LB/DB/S
Slight advantage to AU, simply because the college football game is set up to favor offenses at the moment.
AU OL vs Bama DL
Push. Strength vs Strength here.
AU PK vs Bama return/block team
Advantage Legatron
AU Punt team vs Bama punt return team
Advantage Bama
AU OC vs Bama DC
Advantage Bama, but it will be interesting to see how CL handles playcalling and if Gus leaves him to it.
Bama QB/RB/TE/WR vs AU LB/DB/S
Slight advantage to Bama... for the same reason
Bama OL vs AU DL
Push - two very talented units
Bama PK vs AU return/block team
Advantage AU
Bama punt team vs AU return team
Advantage Bama
Bama OC vs AU DC
Push
Head Coach (gameday)
Advantage Bama
Home field advantage: Auburn
nice
Posted on 8/3/17 at 12:01 pm to GenesChin
quote:This is the most interesting point to the whole season.
our OC finally isn't Gus so maybe we will take advantage
I can't imagine a scenario where Nick Saban would ever relinquish control of his defense to the DC. Where he'd step out and allow a staffer to design the plays, prep the game plan, and make quick in-game decisions.
It'd be hard as hell for a HC with a specific area of expertise who was once hailed as a "guru/genius" to take a hands off approach to their bread 'n butter specialty.
We'll see if Gus can change his spots and sit back and watch while your OC runs the show.
Posted on 8/3/17 at 12:05 pm to Fear The Thumb
I'll be the 1st to tell you that I think AU is the 2nd best team in the SEC this year and the biggest threat to Alabama. That said, comparison of talent is just silly at most positions. Auburn has 1-2 guys on each side of the field that would start at Bama. Bama is literally stacked 3 deep with 4-5 star guys at EVERY position.
From AU, the kicker starts at Bama, and probably one DE, one corner and maybe 1 or 2 OL. So 4-5 guys, including special teams tops. If Bama loses, it will be because AU did a better job coaching not because the talent level is even. It's not...by a long shot.
From AU, the kicker starts at Bama, and probably one DE, one corner and maybe 1 or 2 OL. So 4-5 guys, including special teams tops. If Bama loses, it will be because AU did a better job coaching not because the talent level is even. It's not...by a long shot.
Posted on 8/3/17 at 12:07 pm to Aman
quote:Yep! And how it's not fair, and how Saban has ruined college football, and how any QB can be effective behind an NFL line, and the players are on steroids, and Dodge Chargers, and suits, and refs, and scheduling, and SEC office is in B'ham, and Saban/Emmerrt friendship, etc.
Until the end of the season and Bama is 11-1 headed to the SEC championship game and Auburn is 9-3. Then the talk will turn to how much more talent Bama has than everybody and Saban should never lose a game.
It's the same ole shite every year and I love every minute of it!
Posted on 8/3/17 at 12:36 pm to RT1941
What is interesting are the spots where Bama has the top player (WR, OL, DL) but AU has much more depth.
WR- Ridley is top dog but I think the next 3 or even 4 would come from AU.
DL- Payne is the best guy but the numbers on the DL favor AU
OL- Jonah Williams is top guy IMO but AU has more depth on OK and stacks up pretty well.
*This is easily the best depth situation has had in awhile, outside of safety which is incredibly thin. Tray Mathews sucks FWIW.
Also should note that I think AU has clear advantages at CB, WR
WR- Ridley is top dog but I think the next 3 or even 4 would come from AU.
DL- Payne is the best guy but the numbers on the DL favor AU
OL- Jonah Williams is top guy IMO but AU has more depth on OK and stacks up pretty well.
*This is easily the best depth situation has had in awhile, outside of safety which is incredibly thin. Tray Mathews sucks FWIW.
Also should note that I think AU has clear advantages at CB, WR
Posted on 8/3/17 at 12:39 pm to CBandits82
in most of their fans minds. some are reasonable, most not. And Bama and everyone has those unreasonable types also.
Posted on 8/3/17 at 12:40 pm to TIGERSPIKE
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WR- Ridley is top dog but I think the next 3 or even 4 would come from AU.
Based on what? If it's based on recruiting and rankings then Alabama could easily match Auburn's next 3.
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DL- Payne is the best guy but the numbers on the DL favor AU
Again, based on what? Payne is the best player (and one of the best DL in America) and the other guys have proven just as much as Auburn's other guys and were ranked as high or higher as recruits.
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OL- Jonah Williams is top guy IMO but AU has more depth on OK and stacks up pretty well.
Again, based on what? Alabama has an elite C and an elite T and about 5 guys who could all be average to above average road grading guards, along with another young elite tackle prospect. Alabama is as deep on the offensive line as we've been over the entire run of the last decade.
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Also should note that I think AU has clear advantages at CB, WR
Alabama has 2 CBs projected to be drafted next year. Anthony Averett was 2nd team all-preseason SEC, Tony Brown was 3rd team all-preseason SEC. Davis is very good, but the other side is totally unproven.
I don't quite understand how you aren't sold on Alabama's young talent who hasn't performed at WR but are sold on Auburn's who has not performed (and then there is Calvin Ridley, who has performed).
Calling these 2 positions a draw I can maybe see, but clear advantages for Auburn? That's hysterics.
This post was edited on 8/3/17 at 12:45 pm
Posted on 8/3/17 at 12:45 pm to SummerOfGeorge
The delusion in this thread is unreal. It's like they are trying to convince themselves.
Posted on 8/3/17 at 12:48 pm to 14&Counting
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The delusion in this thread is unreal. It's like they are trying to convince themselves.
It isn't even necessary. If they were being honest with themselves Auburn would still match up pretty well. O-line, RB, WR, QB could all be reasonable called a push. They aren't as deep or good as Alabama on defense but they are clearly right in the 2nd tier behind us, which makes you a Top 10 national unit.
Silliness.
Posted on 8/3/17 at 12:49 pm to TIGERSPIKE
quote:Don't mistake unproven depth for no depth. Bama has blue-chip players stacked on top of blue-chip players. Ben Davis for example was a 5-star LB and may not make the 3 deep this year. Let that sink in.
What is interesting are the spots where Bama has the top player (WR, OL, DL) but AU has much more depth.
quote:Foolishness. Ridley is clearly tops, but Robert Foster was also a 5-star talent that's been injured. He's every bit as talented as anyone on AU's roster. The SEC will also soon be introduced to 5-star Jerry Jeudy who may already be better than Ridley. And that's not to mention Ruggs, Smith, Cam Sims, etc. Our WR corps is stacked with 4-5 star guys and several future NFL players. The comparison to AU's receiver's is laughable.
WR- Ridley is top dog but I think the next 3 or even 4 would come from AU.
quote:Hand is experienced, and productive. Former 5-star who should have a great season. We also have tons of other guys who have been waiting their turn. Raekwon Davis, Williams, Buggs, 5-star L. Ray, and more. Bama is 3-4 deep on the DL with lots of talent just not lots of experience. Don't confuse the two.
DL- Payne is the best guy but the numbers on the DL favor AU
quote:Pierschbaker is All-SEC. So is Bozeman. Tons of studs competing for the RT spot including two incoming 5-stars. Again, the talent level isn't even close to the same. AU has a very solid team and matches up well with Bama, but if it beats Bama it will be in spite of a talent gap not because the talent is equal.
OL- Jonah Williams is top guy IMO but AU has more depth on OK and stacks up pretty well.
This post was edited on 8/3/17 at 12:52 pm
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