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Where are all the advertisements? Kids are being paid millions for their likeness

Posted on 12/15/23 at 11:49 am
Posted by narddogg81
Vancouver
Member since Jan 2012
19698 posts
Posted on 12/15/23 at 11:49 am
Where are the big ad campaigns featuring these kids that make their NIL worth millions? The general public dont know who most of them are or ever will.

NIL, transfer portal, playoff, have all been awful for the sport
This post was edited on 12/15/23 at 11:51 am
Posted by rwestmore7
Walker, LA
Member since Nov 2007
405 posts
Posted on 12/15/23 at 11:52 am to
I'm sure you'd rather them sacrifice their bodies for your entertainment for free.
Posted by Che Boludo
Member since May 2009
18201 posts
Posted on 12/15/23 at 11:53 am to
That Kid Jayden made a billboard or two.
Posted by mckibaj
Member since Nov 2010
7728 posts
Posted on 12/15/23 at 11:53 am to
This is what I thought NIL would be. But it's not. Instead Collectives were established.
Posted by Che Boludo
Member since May 2009
18201 posts
Posted on 12/15/23 at 11:54 am to
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sacrifice their bodies for your entertainment for free

I have zero issues with NIL, but they've never done it for free as scholarship players.
Posted by narddogg81
Vancouver
Member since Jan 2012
19698 posts
Posted on 12/15/23 at 11:56 am to
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I'm sure you'd rather them sacrifice their bodies for your entertainment for free.

4 years or college tuition, room and board, world class athletic training, free medical care, opportunity for exposure to the NFL, stipends, etc etc etc, they were already each getting hundreds of thousands of dollars in compensation.
This post was edited on 12/15/23 at 11:57 am
Posted by narddogg81
Vancouver
Member since Jan 2012
19698 posts
Posted on 12/15/23 at 12:03 pm to
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This is what I thought NIL would be. But it's not. Instead Collectives were established.
you would think there would be a legal component here. in contracts law there is a concept known as consideration. you cant make a blatantly lopsided contract without proper consideration, its what separates a contract from a gift. And the consideration has to be commensurate with the value of whats changing hands. So what consideration are these businesses getting out of the NIL money without the players actually participating in marketing efforts? its very sketchy
This post was edited on 12/15/23 at 4:25 pm
Posted by Saskwatch
Member since Feb 2016
16553 posts
Posted on 12/15/23 at 12:06 pm to
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Where are the big ad campaigns featuring these kids that make their NIL worth millions?


It's Pay for Play not "NIL"
Posted by BevoBucks
H-town
Member since Dec 2022
3956 posts
Posted on 12/15/23 at 12:06 pm to
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Where are the big ad campaigns featuring these kids that make their NIL worth millions

Not sure about other schools, but a lot of Texas athletes are using NIL as intended.

Bijan with Lamborghini.
Ewers with 7-Eleven, HEYDUDE shoes and C4 energy.
Sam Hurley (track) with Ralph Lauren, DoorDash and GNC.
Xavier Worthy with American Airlines, Sonic and Fortnite.
Kelvin Banks with Bose
I left Manning off because he’s an outlier.
This post was edited on 12/15/23 at 12:11 pm
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
70904 posts
Posted on 12/15/23 at 12:07 pm to
Explain how NIL has been bad for Alabama football and made it less enjoyable for you, please.
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
67589 posts
Posted on 12/15/23 at 12:09 pm to
Caleb Williams and Jayden were in some national ads?
Posted by narddogg81
Vancouver
Member since Jan 2012
19698 posts
Posted on 12/15/23 at 12:13 pm to
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Explain how NIL has been bad for Alabama football and made it less enjoyable for you, please.


its turned the whole thing completely mercenary, players dont stick around and develop as part of the team, they come for money, they leave if the other place offers more money. its turned the sport into a shittier version of the NFL, which at least has specific rules and contract lengths.

The thing is, its not even bad for top teams, they can afford whatever, and when the portal dance happens teams like bama benefit as the destination for the better players. Its more that its turned the whole sport less enjoyable than its specifically bad for bama

Posted by Crimson_Chaos
Alabama
Member since Oct 2023
1488 posts
Posted on 12/15/23 at 12:14 pm to
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I'm sure you'd rather them sacrifice their bodies


Big advocate for young men's bodies? I'm assuming you think all D1 athletes 'sacrifice their bodies'? This is pure cringe.
Posted by narddogg81
Vancouver
Member since Jan 2012
19698 posts
Posted on 12/15/23 at 12:17 pm to
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Big advocate for young men's bodies? I'm assuming you think all D1 athletes 'sacrifice their bodies'? This is pure cringe.

they were lining up to sacrifice their bodies for 'free' before NIL was a thing, because of course they were already being amply compensated with all the other things i already mentioned. Its weird they were all stoked to go sacrifice their bodies that they held parties celebrating getting to go do it.
Posted by Che Boludo
Member since May 2009
18201 posts
Posted on 12/15/23 at 12:19 pm to
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completely mercenary, players dont stick around and develop as part of the team

That's a transfer rule issue more than NIL

That is what should be addressed. It's unrelated free agency
Posted by narddogg81
Vancouver
Member since Jan 2012
19698 posts
Posted on 12/15/23 at 12:22 pm to
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That's a transfer rule issue more than NIL

That is what should be addressed. It's unrelated free agency
NIL is a major driving force in transferring or staying
Posted by five_fivesix
Y’all
Member since Aug 2012
13834 posts
Posted on 12/15/23 at 12:22 pm to
Here’s a question. Who buys stuff based on what a college kid says? Or anyone really? I buy based on product value and personal need or desire. frick Dr. Pepper, tastes like shite.
Posted by Hellmet
Member since Nov 2015
519 posts
Posted on 12/15/23 at 12:22 pm to
I think the point is, with NIL the player was supposed to get money for using their 'name and likeness' as a way to you know.. earn money. Meaning they would be branded and companies could use them in commercials, their faces pasted all over the place on buses etc. That's what I thought we were getting...

Instead, it's here is the money to go play at this school. It's 'free' money that they have to do very little to get. I don't think that was the intention of all of this, as it stands right now it's just a payment scheme to get a player to make a decision on where to play.

Posted by Bama Bird
Member since Dec 2011
Member since Mar 2013
19029 posts
Posted on 12/15/23 at 12:24 pm to
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Who buys stuff based on what a college kid says? Or anyone really?


Women
Posted by narddogg81
Vancouver
Member since Jan 2012
19698 posts
Posted on 12/15/23 at 12:27 pm to
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Instead, it's here is the money to go play at this school. It's 'free' money that they have to do very little to get. I don't think that was the intention of all of this, as it stands right now it's just a payment scheme to get a player to make a decision on where to play.

and there is zero basis for the amounts they are getting, as they havent even become proper famous athletes yet, so these millions of dollars are a complete sham. there is not a high school player in the country thats famous enough for their name image and likeness to actually be valuable enough to justify hundreds or thousands or millions of dollars before they even take a snap. i think if the specifics of whats going on were closely examined there were likely be ample evidence of invalid contracts or even fraud
This post was edited on 12/15/23 at 12:34 pm
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