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re: When Saban retires will LSU, UF, UGA and maybe Auburn be back to beating Bama?
Posted on 5/17/13 at 11:11 pm to FourThreeForty
Posted on 5/17/13 at 11:11 pm to FourThreeForty
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Even though Alabama played them about 4 times from 2008 to 2011, people seem to act like we never ever play them
only 2 of those were scheduled. Had you not gotten preferential treatment you probably wouldn't have reached at least one of those seccg's.
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Posted on 5/17/13 at 11:18 pm to Draconian Sanctions
Are you talking about scheduling or penalties or something? Need clarification on pref. treatment. Just because both years we played them in the SECCG we went 12-0 in both reg. seasons.
Posted on 5/17/13 at 11:19 pm to CrimsonChin
I don't think we'll have a problem going back to beating Alabama with Saban still there, so yes, we'll beat them when he leaves too.
Posted on 5/17/13 at 11:29 pm to CrimsonChin
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When Saban retires will LSU, UF, UGA and maybe Auburn be back to beating Bama?
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LSU...back to beating(?)
The cheerio kids never cease to amaze.
Posted on 5/17/13 at 11:39 pm to 167back
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Considering LSU beats bama and saban now, I can see it only getting better for LSU once saban is gone.
According to blogosphere Saban is the greatest field general since Hannibal (well, this might actually be true ) and Miles is a blithering idiot...so when they both retire 5 years or so from now, logically LSU should win 10 in a row by an average of 30 points.
Posted on 5/18/13 at 12:00 am to IAmReality
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Pretty sure Alabama has been beating everyone in the SEC more than everyone was beating them, long before Saban got there.
LSU had beaten Alabama 5 times in a row before Saban was hired.
You must be an ancient history buff.
Posted on 5/18/13 at 12:10 am to Sheetbend
Misread post
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Posted on 5/18/13 at 12:30 am to FourThreeForty
43-22-5
Alabama/LSU series record before Saban arrived at Bama
4-3
Alabama/LSU series record with Saban at Alabama
As best I can tell LSU loses to Alabama with Saban and without, so....
Alabama/LSU series record before Saban arrived at Bama
4-3
Alabama/LSU series record with Saban at Alabama
As best I can tell LSU loses to Alabama with Saban and without, so....
Posted on 5/18/13 at 12:32 am to Sheetbend
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LSU had beaten Alabama 5 times in a row before Saban was hired.
Yeah, I had forgotten in Baton Rouge football was founded circa 2000.
If you wanna talk streaks I'm pretty sure Alabama has beaten LSU 2 in a row.
And that's not history, that's CURRENT btw.
So to review
Past - Alabama
Present - Alabama
Future - Look at the recruiting rankings and preseason polls and tell me
Posted on 5/18/13 at 12:33 am to JPLSU1981
Bama - LSU will continue to be the primary force of the SEC West for years to come.
Auburn needs a major overhaul. I'll have to wait and see if Gus is really the man for that.
UGA - we don't play them much. We beat the stuffing out of them in '08, and had the game of the decade in '12. UGA will always be good.
UF - we split the two title games we played against them, and won both regular season games since '08. If last year is any indicator, they're back on track to be a contender.
Seriously, it's a silly question. UGA we haven't played enough to weigh in on, UF is trending up and Alabama/LSU is ratings gold. Since Saban's hire in 2007, the regular season series is split 3-3, and the average margin of victory is 5.3 points, with 2 OT games and only 1 of those 6 determined by more than one score.
Auburn needs a major overhaul. I'll have to wait and see if Gus is really the man for that.
UGA - we don't play them much. We beat the stuffing out of them in '08, and had the game of the decade in '12. UGA will always be good.
UF - we split the two title games we played against them, and won both regular season games since '08. If last year is any indicator, they're back on track to be a contender.
Seriously, it's a silly question. UGA we haven't played enough to weigh in on, UF is trending up and Alabama/LSU is ratings gold. Since Saban's hire in 2007, the regular season series is split 3-3, and the average margin of victory is 5.3 points, with 2 OT games and only 1 of those 6 determined by more than one score.
Posted on 5/18/13 at 1:09 am to IAmReality
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Yeah, I had forgotten in Baton Rouge football was founded circa 2000.
The subject of this thread is about the future, not the golden past.
The SEC only became the premiere college football conference in the past seven years, only after LSU became a perennial SEC power.
If the SEC was only Florida and Bama, the SEC wouldn't have won 7 BCS championships in a row and wouldn't have the prestige it presently enjoys.
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Bama - LSU will continue to be the primary force of the SEC West for years to come.
Considering the in-state talent base TAM has at its disposal, they will become one of the Big-3 in the SEC West.
They will lack depth for the next couple of years, but they already played Bama and LSU to a standstill last year.
This post was edited on 5/18/13 at 1:37 am
Posted on 5/18/13 at 1:44 am to dbt_Geaux_Tigers_196
LSU has beaten Bama 2 out of the last 6 games they have played. That puts them exactly on par with Auburn.
Posted on 5/18/13 at 2:12 am to BamaNixon
This is an even series now, unless Bama or LSU hire a bad coach coach it will continue to be that way.
Posted on 5/18/13 at 2:19 am to Sheetbend
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Considering the in-state talent base TAM has at its disposal, they will become one of the Big-3 in the SEC West.
They will lack depth for the next couple of years, but they already played Bama and LSU to a standstill last year.
Perhaps. I'll wait and see. They had that same talent base in the Big 12, but has not claimed a ring since 1998. I'm curious to see if they've truly turned the corner or just lucked out with a once-in-a-while talent like Manziel. Like I've said before, they blew two leads and nearly blew the one against Alabama. I'm not sold just yet that they're ready to be a perennial power. I fully admit I could be wrong, but one good season isn't going to make me suddenly think they're a complete team.
Until last year, 1998 was their last 10+ win season. In that stretch (99-2011), the following SEC teams had at least 1 10+ win season:
Alabama (6)
Arkansas (3)
Auburn (3)
Florida (5)
Georgia (7)
LSU (7)
Mississippi (1)
Mississippi State (1)
South Carolina (1)
Tennessee (4)
That's every SEC team except Kentucky and Vandy.
Also:
Missouri (3)
My point is, Texas A&M has always had that potential, yet has a hard time realizing it. Things might change, and last year is certainly a trend in the right direction, but 1 great year thanks to an amazing QB doesn't turn a team into a year-in, year-out contender.
Posted on 5/18/13 at 2:23 am to skrayper
Don't know much about Texas football except that there is a ton of talent to go around but I wonder how much of an impact on aTm will there be when Texas gets its act together. SUMLIN is a great coach imo without much to go on for his short tenure but I have to wonder how long will he remain at aTm if the NFL would call if he is even a candidate to get there one day.
Posted on 5/18/13 at 3:52 am to BamaNixon
Okay then.
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Posted on 5/18/13 at 4:07 am to dbt_Geaux_Tigers_196
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logically LSU should win 10 in a row by an average of 30 points.
Damn, it gets that bad?.... Well, there is always the tigerdroppings music board.
Posted on 5/18/13 at 4:35 am to The7Sins
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Florida, LSU = Yes.
Georgia, Auburn =Sometimes.
Posted on 5/18/13 at 10:11 am to Sheetbend
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LSU had beaten Alabama 5 times in a row before Saban was hired.
You must be an ancient history buff.
That's as relevant to current situation as Alabama winning 20 consecutive games in Tiger Stadium from 1958-1998.
Posted on 5/18/13 at 10:14 am to Sheetbend
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The SEC only became the premiere college football conference in the past seven years,
The SEC has had similar national success in the past. Alabama, Auburn, LSU, and Ole Miss all won national titles from 1957-1964. A similar time period to the current situation. Meanwhile, the Big Ten has two collective national titles since 1970.
This post was edited on 5/18/13 at 10:15 am
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