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re: What's the general consensus from LSU fans about this football season?
Posted on 6/3/25 at 10:24 am to bamameister
Posted on 6/3/25 at 10:24 am to bamameister
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Purely subjective, my friend. From where I'm sitting, Nussmeier ain't all that.
He'd have to majorly shite the bed this year to not be a first round pick.
That said, LSU absolutely has to run the ball at least decently if they want to win more than 8 or 9 games. Losing 4 of your starting 5 OL doesn't make me super confident there.
They also need to demonstrate that they can at least "slow down" a running quarterback.
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Posted on 6/3/25 at 10:45 am to SidewalkTiger
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He'd have to majorly shite the bed this year to not be a first round pick.
Stats can do that. Systems have won Heismans and draft leverage, and they go off to the NFL and do nothing.
You may want to run the ball, but will your system let you? This is not Kelly's ND offense, and your running game and defense have reflected those new values for 3 seasons. This is very much the same stuff Joe Brady introduced in 2019, without the same dynamic offensive pieces.
The truth is, Kelly asks Nuss to keep throwing, and that always seems to be the game plan going in, regardless of the team. The finesse spread is exactly who you are on offense. Running the football and being a physical team with a defensive presence requires its own philosophy. Kelly doesn't seem to be making any adjustments toward a more hard nose approach.
Posted on 6/3/25 at 10:46 am to Violent Hip Swivel
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Are their fans sandbagging and don't want to come across as too cocky, or are their fans generally not as optimistic as the pundits.
A few of them are too busy pontificating about Texas which is wild
Posted on 6/3/25 at 11:22 am to bamameister
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Stats can do that. Systems have won Heismans and draft leverage, and they go off to the NFL and do nothing.
It isn't really the stats as much as it is the arm talent and potential. The stats were generally a byproduct of the volume at which they threw the ball.
The thought is that Nuss should improve as 2024 was his first season as a starter and the arm talent itself, is elite.
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You may want to run the ball, but will your system let you? This is not Kelly's ND offense, and your running game and defense have reflected those new values for 3 seasons. This is very much the same stuff Joe Brady introduced in 2019, without the same dynamic offensive pieces.
As someone who watches basically every game, I disagree with all of this.
LSU's struggles on defense have really nothing to do with the offensive approach, teams routinely marched right down the field on the first drive vs LSU's defense. A lot of LSU's defensive struggles have been the result of truly good players/talent.
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The truth is, Kelly asks Nuss to keep throwing, and that always seems to be the game plan going in, regardless of the team.
Because they struggled to run the ball and the defense would immediately put them in a touchdown hole.
You're looking at the defensive struggles as the result of a pass happy offense when it was actually the opposite.
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Kelly doesn't seem to be making any adjustments toward a more hard nose approach.
I'd disagree with this as well. The hired Alex Atkins to basically "fix" the running game and put a real emphasis in bringing in better players on defense.
Whether it's successful or not, remains to be seen.
Posted on 6/3/25 at 11:34 am to SidewalkTiger
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It isn't really the stats as much as it is the arm talent and potential. The stats were generally a byproduct of the volume at which they threw the ball.
And "volume" is my point. What do you choose to do as your offensive identity? Pass first, pass last, and if that doesn't work, pass some more. There is a lot of Joe Brady in what Kelly is doing, which has been somewhat strange given I thought he would go to BR with his own values.
Being physical and having all this running game and a new defensive presence without scheming it is a waste of time. Daniels' legs gave you 2 dimensions to attack defenses to keep them honest and off balance, but those days are long gone.
Posted on 6/3/25 at 12:00 pm to Violent Hip Swivel
We finish 9-3 and miss the playoffs by being ranked about 15th.
Posted on 6/3/25 at 12:57 pm to bamameister
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And "volume" is my point. What do you choose to do as your offensive identity? Pass first, pass last, and if that doesn't work, pass some more. There is a lot of Joe Brady in what Kelly is doing, which has been somewhat strange given I thought he would go to BR with his own values
That's not Joe Brady, that's just college football now.
Pretty much everyone is using a "finesse, spread, pass first approach" and using the pass to set up the run. LSU has just generally struggled to run the ball so they have to keep throwing. The defense has also been bad so they know they have to score a lot.
Our fans complain about running out of the shotgun formation a lot, again, everyone is doing that.
This post was edited on 6/3/25 at 1:00 pm
Posted on 6/3/25 at 1:04 pm to Violent Hip Swivel
Undefeated CFP champs
Posted on 6/3/25 at 6:21 pm to Violent Hip Swivel
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I thought the reason why Brian Kelly has had so much leash is because he did beat Bama.
It's more about the $100 million guarantee.
Posted on 6/3/25 at 7:13 pm to Violent Hip Swivel
It all boils down to the play of the OL. If they develop and play well the sky is the limit.
Posted on 6/3/25 at 7:52 pm to Violent Hip Swivel
To answer honestly, I have no idea what to expect.
This could be a national championship team or lose 5 games.
We play Clemson and Florida in the first 3 weeks. We will know what kind of team we have then.
This could be a national championship team or lose 5 games.
We play Clemson and Florida in the first 3 weeks. We will know what kind of team we have then.
Posted on 6/3/25 at 8:57 pm to bamameister
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There is a lot of Joe Brady in what Kelly is doing
A lot of talk about Joe Brady.
He was an offensive assistant for 1 season 3 years before Kelly ever came to LSU.
Sounds like you're just talking out of your arse.
Posted on 6/3/25 at 9:01 pm to Violent Hip Swivel
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As an outside observer, I thought the reason why Brian Kelly has had so much leash is because he did beat Bama.
He has the leash because he rebuilt the program and did well in the process.
Posted on 6/3/25 at 9:08 pm to bamameister
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Winning portals can simply mean you didn't win the recruiting cycle. The truth here is that Brian Kelly has not struck the same gold that Les Miles used to haul in regularly from the high school ranks.
2025 was his 3rd full recruiting cycle at LSU. He's signed the 5th, 7th, and 9th ranked classes.
That's excellent recruiting.
Posted on 6/3/25 at 9:17 pm to Saunson69
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DE Have Jared Verse who has like 10+ sacks a season
LOL. When did this happen?
Posted on 6/3/25 at 9:25 pm to Violent Hip Swivel
IMO Kelly is incredibly lazy and lazy coaches don’t do anything significant in the SEC. Our fanbase realllllly eats up his arrogant “this is my best roster ever watch out for the Tigers this year” yearly preseason shtick but I think this is the year that we have a major collapse and admin has to decide whether or not they’re going to fire him.
He’s never fielded anything close to a complete team, he hasn’t landed key recruits and our team is largely built on the portal, he’s made very lazy coaching hire-backs after half assing the initial hires, and he generally comes across as a hardheaded moron to me. I also wouldn’t want to hang my hat on Nuss, I don’t think he has it between the ears to be the next Burrow or Daniels.
I’d love to be wrong but I think this team is going to be a huge disappointment
He’s never fielded anything close to a complete team, he hasn’t landed key recruits and our team is largely built on the portal, he’s made very lazy coaching hire-backs after half assing the initial hires, and he generally comes across as a hardheaded moron to me. I also wouldn’t want to hang my hat on Nuss, I don’t think he has it between the ears to be the next Burrow or Daniels.
I’d love to be wrong but I think this team is going to be a huge disappointment
Posted on 6/3/25 at 10:47 pm to DylanSampson4Heisman
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9/10/2024
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Are we really pretending Nussmeier is some proven top end QB?
Who in the SEC has proven to be better?
Posted on 6/3/25 at 10:58 pm to Violent Hip Swivel
Not saying shite until they can win a season opening big game
Posted on 6/3/25 at 11:28 pm to TigerScorpion
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Who in the SEC has proven to be better?
I would say that none of them are proven. Tbh, his draft stock is enough to sway me a little. I think I'd still lean towards Lagway and Manning if I had to choose.
Posted on 6/4/25 at 6:05 am to DylanSampson4Heisman
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I'd still lean towards Lagway and Manning if I had to choose.
Yeah, because both of them just lit it up, last year.
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