
Harry Boutte
Favorite team: | LSU ![]() |
Location: | Louisiana |
Biography: | Class of 1990 |
Interests: | LSU sports |
Occupation: | self-occupied |
Number of Posts: | 1895 |
Registered on: | 10/24/2024 |
Online Status: | Not Online |
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re: U.S. Federal District Judge: Bans ICE from arresting illegals.
Posted by Harry Boutte on 4/30/25 at 5:02 pm
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Support of lawlessness
wtf are you talking about? Did you not read YouAreAllPathetic's post?
re: U.S. Federal District Judge: Bans ICE from arresting illegals.
Posted by Harry Boutte on 4/30/25 at 4:54 pm
quote:Really? You think this is leftism...?
NO! This is where lawlessness comes from the left.
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This squishy shite is why we’re never going to be able to have a country again. You realize what we’re up against? This whole weak federal government shite isn’t going to work against this enemy. These are not people operating in good faith. They want you dead, they want me dead, they never stop until they have full control and power. What we do isn’t going to make them any more or less inclined unless there is no way for them to ever get their hands on anything again.
You’re not getting that with principled apple pie small government bullshite. Sorry, hate to burst your fantasy land, but that isn’t happening. Reliever wins is going to be the side that isn’t afraid to stand up, take full control, and actually root them all out once and for all,
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You might then want to accuse YouAreAllPathetic of being a leftist, he wrote it, I just responded to it. Personally, I would describe that sentiment as right-wing, nationalist authoritarianism.
re: U.S. Federal District Judge: Bans ICE from arresting illegals.
Posted by Harry Boutte on 4/30/25 at 4:48 pm
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Only if they think they will flee.
So you were wrong before when you said, "Her ruling says they cannot do anything without a warrant." LINK?
BTW, these sweeps happened under the Biden administration. :lol:
re: U.S. Federal District Judge: Bans ICE from arresting illegals.
Posted by Harry Boutte on 4/30/25 at 4:38 pm
This is where authoritarianism comes from on the Right.
re: U.S. Federal District Judge: Bans ICE from arresting illegals.
Posted by Harry Boutte on 4/30/25 at 4:37 pm
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you whine about the reasonable suspicion standard but trust government to determine if a person might flee?
No, you're projecting WAY too fricking much on me ITT. I never said I trust the federal government. Your bias is getting in the way of your understanding. It's okay, it's terribly common on this board. I guess people think it makes it more fun to be adversarial. One poster ITT addressed my comments calmly and without bias. It wasn't you. :lol:
I'll ask you, does the ruling allow for authorities to pick up suspected illegals without a warrant?
re: U.S. Federal District Judge: Bans ICE from arresting illegals.
Posted by Harry Boutte on 4/30/25 at 4:14 pm
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You didn’t understand what you read.
"...unless they have a warrant or a reason to believe the person might flee..."
You conveniently omitted a condition.
re: U.S. Federal District Judge: Bans ICE from arresting illegals.
Posted by Harry Boutte on 4/30/25 at 4:10 pm
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You should hate this if you care about the illegals.
You're trying too hard.
I care about protecting my rights as a citizen. I don't want to be swept up in some over-broad search for illegals. I resent federal government overreach, therefore, I like a high standard for them to be picking people up off the street.
re: U.S. Federal District Judge: Bans ICE from arresting illegals.
Posted by Harry Boutte on 4/30/25 at 4:04 pm
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Her ruling says they cannot do anything without a warrant.
That's a lie by omission.
At least I declared my biases.
re: How Trump Sabotaged Canada's Conservatives and Gifted the Ruling Left-Wing Government
Posted by Harry Boutte on 4/30/25 at 4:02 pm
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If you don't you are full of shite.
At least I've got a way to prove I'm not full of shite.
You, OTOH...
re: U.S. Federal District Judge: Bans ICE from arresting illegals.
Posted by Harry Boutte on 4/30/25 at 4:00 pm
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Where were you when Obama was deporting people?
I was at work. Where were you?
re: U.S. Federal District Judge: Bans ICE from arresting illegals.
Posted by Harry Boutte on 4/30/25 at 3:59 pm
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You are literally upset at the standard that has been in place for decades
The very standard that's in the decision that you're mad about?
:lol:
I'm not sorry for being wary of federal government overreach.
re: U.S. Federal District Judge: Bans ICE from arresting illegals.
Posted by Harry Boutte on 4/30/25 at 3:57 pm
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The only thing relevant to this OP is recognizing the judge made a politically motivated erroneous ruling. Will you admit that?
I'm not sure I have enough information to make that call.
US judge bars Border Patrol from some warrantless arrests of suspected undocumented residents
A federal judge in California has barred Border Patrol agents from arresting someone suspected of living in the U.S. illegally unless they have a warrant or a reason to believe the person might flee before a warrant can be obtained.
Tuesday's ruling from U.S. District Judge Jennifer L. Thurston also says Border Patrol agents can’t stop people without having reasonable suspicion or return them to their countries of origin via “voluntary departure” unless that person is informed of their rights and agrees to leave. The ruling only applies to people within the court's Eastern District of California, Thurston said, where dozens of people were swept up in January after the Border Patrol launched an immigration enforcement action dubbed “Operation Return to Sender."
The American Civil Liberties Union sued Department of Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem and U.S. Border Patrol officials on behalf of the labor union United Farm Workers and people who were targeted during the Border Patrol raids.
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It's too hard to figure out where all the political bias is coming from, especially without a thorough understanding of all the laws involved. That ruling may be reasonable. Why were they targeted? It seems like that would make a big difference in the ruling.
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None of that is relevant.
Of course it's relevant to the discussion in that it discloses my bias against the federal government.
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When there is a reasonable suspicion of a crime or being here illegally the government always verifies identity.
Um, that's right there in her decision.
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It has been that way for decades. You’re only mad about it now because Trump is in charge.
She's ordering what you demand, why is it then that now YOU are mad about it? Because she's a different party than Trump?
re: U.S. Federal District Judge: Bans ICE from arresting illegals.
Posted by Harry Boutte on 4/30/25 at 3:29 pm
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likely does not
See, it's that squishy shite that isn't good enough for me. That's where the feds love to exceed their authority. If you don't call them on it, they'll keep pushing.
re: U.S. Federal District Judge: Bans ICE from arresting illegals.
Posted by Harry Boutte on 4/30/25 at 3:26 pm
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How is anyone’s identity verified?
Why does my identity need to be 'verified' by the federal government? They'd better have a damned good reason for asking for my identification.
I worked closely with the federal government professionally. They will have you believe that their jurisdiction is everywhere at all times. I watched a lot of people knuckle under to that just because it made things easier. I didn't. I fought them whenever I felt they were exceeding their authority. They backed down every time. My annual reviews always had a line praising my methods of dealing with the feds.
Personally, I generally just don't care for them.
re: U.S. Federal District Judge: Bans ICE from arresting illegals.
Posted by Harry Boutte on 4/30/25 at 3:17 pm
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Why? People get asked for "their papers" daily... is it less outrageous to be asked for your papers when boarding a plane? Buying wine? Voting? Updating your license?
Don't be obtuse, I'm talking about being asked for my papers for no other reason than how I look.
I remember a time when American conservatives would be appalled by the idea of just having their papers checked randomly. That's part of why they were vehemently against a national ID.
re: Valentina Gomez calls Islam 'the religion of rape' at Muslim event in Texas
Posted by Harry Boutte on 4/30/25 at 3:10 pm
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If over the centuries ideas/claims/etc. have been attributed to the "same God" that make them patently distinct in the character and identity of what is being worshipped, doesn't that pretty much eliminate any reality that faiths worship the same God?
There is only God. Everything else is simply man's interpretation of what he thinks God's nature is - and usually getting it wrong.
Religion is a way of distorting God such that control can be exercised over people.
re: U.S. Federal District Judge: Bans ICE from arresting illegals.
Posted by Harry Boutte on 4/30/25 at 3:06 pm
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There may be some true believers who think millions of illegal immigrants need to be deported and we're just nonetheless obligated to navigate our mind numbing bureaucratic apparatus
This is where I stand. I would be outraged to be asked for my papers by a federal employee. And while I have cooperated with federal employees in the past, I have also been at odds with them before.
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What happened to this country is criminal - nay, treasonous.
I don't believe that. I set a VERY high bar for treason. And I am suspicious of those who play that card.
I am also suspicious of those who would claim that these immigrants are a net negative for our society without any CBA that doesn't include their contribution to GDP - as well as the cost to deport. All I've seen lined up against them is the costs for their health, education and 'entitlements'.
re: Valentina Gomez calls Islam 'the religion of rape' at Muslim event in Texas
Posted by Harry Boutte on 4/30/25 at 2:56 pm
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they worship a false god.
There are no such thing's a "false gods", there is God.
Don't Muslims share Abraham's covenant?
re: President Trump says "this is Biden's stock market, not Trump's"
Posted by Harry Boutte on 4/30/25 at 2:46 pm
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the USA (caps) is technically a Corporation.
I'm not sure about that, but I am sure that both the RNC and the DNC are just corporations. It took me years to realize they weren't part of our government.
re: Valentina Gomez calls Islam 'the religion of rape' at Muslim event in Texas
Posted by Harry Boutte on 4/30/25 at 2:36 pm
How many gods do you think there are?
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