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re: What's Lanes future at ole miss?
Posted on 11/1/21 at 9:18 am to lsufball19
Posted on 11/1/21 at 9:18 am to lsufball19
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His wins are against 0-9 Vandy, 2-8 South Carolina, 4-7 State, 6-2 Indiana, 4-4 Louisville, Austin Peay (FCS), 1-7 Tulane, 5-3 Arkansas, 4-4 Tennessee, and 4-4 LSU. Not exactly a murderers row, and several of those wins were very close games. His loss to LSU last year was to a bad team missing a ton of players. His best win in that 13 game stretch was either Arkansas or Tennessee. That’s not saying a lot IMO. Like others have said, Kiffin can’t get out of his own way. If he could do that, which I’m not sure he can, he would be very dangerous.
True, but Matt Luke left the program a total dumpster fire. Did Freeze start that fire? Yes. But Matt Luke had a team with 16 NFL players on it and couldn't get to .500.
Pure distilled essence of Ole Miss.
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Posted on 11/1/21 at 9:21 am to lsufball19
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Kiffin can’t get out of his own way. If he could do that, which I’m not sure he can, he would be very dangerous.
Maybe we win the Auburn game if we cut it to five with 5 or so minutes left and get a stop and get the ball last? We were only beating Bama by going for it and making it. Literally our only chance. So maybe you can argue that he’s cost us one game in two seasons? Thread still makes no sense.
Posted on 11/1/21 at 9:24 am to NaturalStateReb
Lane isn’t recruiting any better than Luke. He’s recruiting like a guy that doesn’t plan on being around long
Luke’s 2019 class was ranked 22
Luke’s 2019 class was ranked 22
This post was edited on 11/1/21 at 9:25 am
Posted on 11/1/21 at 9:26 am to VivaZapata27
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If he had any depth at all he’s sitting at 7-1 right now and favored in his last four games.
All the depth in the world isn't going to save Ole Miss from his addiction to fourth down gambling even when he's backed up past his own 50.
Posted on 11/1/21 at 9:33 am to olemissfan26
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yes how will we ever restock all of Matt Luke’s not even top 30 recruiting classes. Kiffin is doom
I didn’t say he wont. I said that’s when it really matters.
The top contributors still aren’t his players. Kiffin hasn’t shown consistency yet as a head coach in years 3, 4 and so on.
Posted on 11/1/21 at 9:39 am to VivaZapata27
His fourth down calls are the thing that will keep OM from being anything but OM. A feel good story at times but no real threat.
Take the points and be happy. Even against UA simply kicking a FG and then giving up a TD is a 4 point swing not 7. With an offense that can score as quickly as OM you are within a TD even after two possessions in this scenario. Every time you don't get points and the opponent does what does that do to the team mentally?
Take the points and be happy. Even against UA simply kicking a FG and then giving up a TD is a 4 point swing not 7. With an offense that can score as quickly as OM you are within a TD even after two possessions in this scenario. Every time you don't get points and the opponent does what does that do to the team mentally?
Posted on 11/1/21 at 9:40 am to Golfer1
Last years class was 17th in the 247 composite rankings. Including 7 blues chip players and a few very important grad transfers. This years class will be better in overall ranking and the amount and talent level of transfers. Players are coming. We will have 85 SEC level players sooner than later.
Posted on 11/1/21 at 9:41 am to TheBiggestBrother
House DADDY for the local Alpha Delta Phi house.
Posted on 11/1/21 at 9:42 am to Rambler34
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His fourth down calls are the thing that will keep OM from being anything but OM. A feel good story at times but no real threat
We are talking about one game out of 18 where that actually hurt us. And it’s won us several games.
Posted on 11/1/21 at 9:46 am to VivaZapata27
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Losing only at Baton Rouge in a game he was in with only half his offense
Really?
LSU was using 3rd string players in that game!
Really
Posted on 11/1/21 at 9:48 am to sugatowng
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What has Freshwater done better than Nutt in the same amount of time?
Since you asked, Kiffin has coached a total of 18 games at Ole Miss. In those games, his record is 11-7 (7-7 SEC).
In Nutt's first 18 games, his record was 12-6 (6-5 SEC).
For additional reference, Freeze was 10-8 (4-7), while Luke was 10-8 (3-7).
Though I would prefer better, given that Kiffin's 1st 10 games were in a weird year, I'd said he's done decently.
Posted on 11/1/21 at 9:50 am to El Tigre Grande
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Really?
LSU was using 3rd string players in that game!
Really
Yeah, and this is why recruiting is important. Your backup players are blue chips. Ours are not. It’s still not a bad loss and was a game he had a chance to win.
Posted on 11/1/21 at 9:58 am to pankReb
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oh LSU being a bad team missing a ton of players is an acceptable reason but ours being a bad team missing a bunch of players isn't?
wtf are you talking about? LSU was a bad football team last year. That's not even debatable. That also accounts for 1 of Lane's 3 losses in this cherry-picked 13 game spread by VivaZapata27 to prove something about Lane I guess.
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It's like you idiots are purposefully ignoring the fact that our defense is absolute dog shite and we're having to recruit out of it.
Oh I'm fully aware of the defense being dogshit. But if you want to credit Lane with everything the offense is doing, you can't give him a pass on the defense still being terrible.
Posted on 11/1/21 at 9:59 am to VivaZapata27
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Maybe we win the Auburn game if we cut it to five with 5 or so minutes left and get a stop and get the ball last?
Ole Miss went for it and failed 3x in the red zone Saturday. He kicks FGs there, and it's a 2 point game with 5 minutes left in a game where the Ole Miss defense was actually playing well, especially in the 2nd half where Auburn had scored just 3 points.
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We were only beating Bama by going for it and making it.
When you're giving them points that early in the game, sure.
Went for it on 4th in OM's first drive from the 6, which I actually didn't have a huge problem with playing on the road. But when Alabama's responded with a TD, giving it back to them in your own territory on the following drive was just idiotic. That put OM down 14-0 in the first quarter, and then Lane put the game out of reach by going for it on his own 27. There's being aggressive and then there's being reckless. Lane didn't even give OM a chance to win in that game. Alabama has shown they're beatable this year but you can't take yourself out of the game so early if you're going to pull it off.
Like I said in my original post ITT, Lane can be very dangerous. He's very good at coaching up QBs and is a very creative offensive mind, but he has work to do with game management, which is why I said he needs to get out of his own way. I'm not sure if it's ego or what, but he can't keep coaching like this, especially if he doesn't have a QB like Corrall every year
This post was edited on 11/1/21 at 10:27 am
Posted on 11/1/21 at 10:02 am to VivaZapata27
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If he had any depth at all he’s sitting at 7-1 right now and favored in his last four games.
I mean they could have more depth if he would just leave punters,kickers, and long snappers at home …. Seems there is no need for them
Posted on 11/1/21 at 10:12 am to TheBiggestBrother
he's gonna have to recruit better athletes on defense. that's pretty much it, and it's a tall order.
right now they've had some shite luck with injuries at wr. guess he needs to recruit better there too.
right now they've had some shite luck with injuries at wr. guess he needs to recruit better there too.
This post was edited on 11/1/21 at 10:13 am
Posted on 11/1/21 at 10:13 am to TheBiggestBrother
Natty in 4 years, Arch Manning wins the Heisman, Nick Saban retires.
Posted on 11/1/21 at 10:23 am to TheBiggestBrother
Run out of town on a rail for statutory rape.
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