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re: What proof is there that blue blood programs illegally paid players prior to NIL?
Posted on 10/31/25 at 4:04 pm to ForeverGator
Posted on 10/31/25 at 4:04 pm to ForeverGator
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Survey Shows Large Number of Players Were Paid in College
This is from 1989.... think the payments magically stopped after that?
I had never seen that article. Pretty rampant.
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Posted on 10/31/25 at 4:06 pm to QBUMizzou
They all did to some degree. But none of them, even the worst offenders, ever paid anything on the level that's now being paid "legally". It's not even in the same stratosphere.
Posted on 10/31/25 at 4:10 pm to QBUMizzou
Wasn’t there some story about Alabama paying some guy named Albert Means 100k to play for the Tide?
And it wasn’t just the blue bloods but yes, if you wanted to win championships you definitely needed to pay and deliver “impermissible” benefits
And it wasn’t just the blue bloods but yes, if you wanted to win championships you definitely needed to pay and deliver “impermissible” benefits
Posted on 10/31/25 at 4:10 pm to NWLA_Bama
Agreed. A little "walking around money" for a kid whose parents couldn't provide it, lived in the athletic dorm, and wanted to grab a cheeseburger with his girl on Sunday was pretty routine and just about everyone did it.
It's a whole new game. These numbers are not public, but there are estimates out there where a handful of kids are making NFL-level money in college. Hard to know the truth of those reports.
It's a whole new game. These numbers are not public, but there are estimates out there where a handful of kids are making NFL-level money in college. Hard to know the truth of those reports.
Posted on 10/31/25 at 4:11 pm to QBUMizzou
The parity that exists now is all that is needed for proof.
Posted on 10/31/25 at 4:14 pm to QBUMizzou
Because there were more people cheating aka providing extra benefits than not. The richer ones provided more benefits than the ones who didn't have as much money. No different than now, though it is done legally. Ohio St, Texas, Oregon, etc. pay their players more NIL money than UCLA, New Mexico St and Memphis. But they all pay their players, just not equally. It's all relative in other words.
Posted on 10/31/25 at 4:14 pm to NobodyImportant
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Saban quitting after NIL would be the biggest clue
Wonder how he managed to lose out on numerous five star recruits to LSU, Auburn and UGA over the years then?
Posted on 10/31/25 at 4:46 pm to NobodyImportant
Saban also got out once his boytoy Mark Emmert couldn’t protect him any longer.
Posted on 10/31/25 at 4:54 pm to QBUMizzou
We were apparently giving away Trans A&Ms in the 80s. In the ESPN 30 for 30 about Marcus Dupree it is heavily implied OU paid the family to get him away from Texas.
Not sure how any big name teams with rich alumni stayed clean in any way shape or form.
Not sure how any big name teams with rich alumni stayed clean in any way shape or form.
Posted on 10/31/25 at 5:06 pm to aspiclark
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the non blue blood programs were also paying their players is the part they leave out.
Not the same as having to get away with it while non blue blood programs get caught more often. Why are non blue blood programs competitive now and couldn't do it before the start of the NIL and the transfer portal rule change?
Posted on 10/31/25 at 5:08 pm to N0T SURE
No they relish their role “ of lovable looser” while claiming they are taking the moral high road
Posted on 10/31/25 at 5:13 pm to deputyfife
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If you are asking if someone made a federal case out of it, with courtroom filings and proceedings, then no.
The ghost of Logan Young, who fell up the stairs and then made a salad while he bled out all over the house, has entered the thread. IRS charges, dismissed of course after his untimely death during the trial, but the documentation provided in court before that was enough to have Alabama "staring down the barrel of a gun". Direct quote from the head of NCAA Enforcement.
They paid $250k for a DL 25 years ago in that case. What do you think they paid for skill position players?
Posted on 10/31/25 at 5:14 pm to QBUMizzou
quote:Considering OU and Mizzou's time together in the Big 8 and Big 12, you should be very familiar with OU's history of NCAA run ins.
Blue bloods?
Were they penalized?
Posted on 10/31/25 at 5:16 pm to Tridentds
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In the ESPN 30 for 30 about Marcus Dupree it is heavily implied OU paid the family to get him away from Texas.
It's a bit more than implied, and it wasn't just Texas, it was OM, Bama, and a host of others. He got just a little bit initially, but then he got to campus at OU. Dupree noticed how much more others on the OU team were racking up. Momma got a nice new doublewide on a piece of land, and that was just the start.
Every team paid something. Some teams paid a LOT more than others.
This post was edited on 10/31/25 at 5:17 pm
Posted on 10/31/25 at 5:16 pm to TrueLefty
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Why are non blue blood programs competitive now and couldn't do it before the start of the NIL and the transfer portal rule change?
Non blue bloods are just as competitive as they've ever been.
Posted on 10/31/25 at 5:18 pm to SlicedBread
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Those are $1 bills. He's got maybe $100 there.
Posted on 10/31/25 at 5:21 pm to Clark14
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I knew of $100 handshakes but that’s it.
Yeah and that's not really cheating IMO.
Cheating is when you are paying a recruit to come to your school before they have signed.
Things like $100 handshakes I just consider hookups. If someone is hooking you up, that's not really cheating. That comes mostly after a player is at the school etc. It's against the rules for obvious reasons, but calling it cheating is like calling someone who runs a stop sign a criminal.
It's impossible to even police shite like that.
Posted on 10/31/25 at 5:24 pm to TheRealTigerHorn
I have multiple family members that worked for an Ole Miss booster in the 90's.
He gave Rebel players cars and paid them for "jobs" when they didn't do any work. It was fairly common.
He gave Rebel players cars and paid them for "jobs" when they didn't do any work. It was fairly common.
Posted on 10/31/25 at 5:33 pm to QBUMizzou
Clemson funneled money through a church called Newspring. That’s not a secret either. They did it for YEARS, probably are still doing it today.
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