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re: What is the rule for offense goal tending?

Posted on 2/12/19 at 8:10 pm to
Posted by GatorsGators
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Posted on 2/12/19 at 8:10 pm to
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It didn’t really look close. It looked like clear offensive goaltending.

Yeah, definitely. Ball needs to be all the way out of the cylinder vertically. It doesn't just need to be off the rim or moving away from the rim.

LSU deserves the win, though. Congrats.
Posted by GatorsGators
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 2/12/19 at 8:10 pm to
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Dickie V said it was outside the cylinder so that means it was outside the damn cylinder

Dickie V is braindead
Posted by thunderbird1100
GSU Eagles fan
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 2/12/19 at 8:11 pm to
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Can't be inside the cylinder. But it was


Not when he touched it, ball clearly bounced off rim and AWAY from by ket. It was very close, but after that bounce it was no longer IN the cylinder range.
Posted by OchoDedos
Republic of Texas
Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 2/12/19 at 8:11 pm to
side court view, it was out of the cylinder, and a clean put back
Posted by geaux88
Northshore, LA
Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 2/12/19 at 8:11 pm to
Tipped the ball in with 0.8 seconds left. That was the call. Was not goaltending.
Posted by ForeverGator
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Posted on 2/12/19 at 8:11 pm to
I fully expected the refs to overturn it and hell would have ensued because it would have been a clear BS call for Kentucky to save them. Almost as bad as the Saints PI non-call.

Glad they didn't overturn it though.
Posted by djrunner
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2010
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Posted on 2/12/19 at 8:12 pm to
What about the defensives player that came through the net up over the rim before the shot. What's the rule there?
I know it just wondering if you do.
Posted by geaux88
Northshore, LA
Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 2/12/19 at 8:12 pm to
Wrong.
Posted by GatorsGators
Member since Oct 2012
13454 posts
Posted on 2/12/19 at 8:12 pm to
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Not when he touched it, ball clearly bounced off rim and AWAY from by ket. It was very close, but after that bounce it was no longer IN the cylinder range.

But that's, like, not the rule.

It was a blown call. It happens. I'm sure there were a bunch of other blown calls that slightly affected the outcome of the game. LSU deserved the win regardless
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 2/12/19 at 8:12 pm to
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It looked like clear offensive goaltending.


Easily, but not reviewable, and had to be called at the time, which they didn't.
Posted by OleManDixon
Lexington
Member since Jan 2018
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Posted on 2/12/19 at 8:13 pm to
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Yea well your defender put his hand through the underside of the basket, which is defensive goaltending. That wasn't called either.


It hit the net and didn’t interfere with the ball. Y’all are making up rules by the minute.
Posted by thunderbird1100
GSU Eagles fan
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 2/12/19 at 8:13 pm to
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eah, definitely. Ball needs to be all the way out of the cylinder vertically. It doesn't just need to be off the rim or moving away from the rim.


The rule cant be if any part of the ball is over the cylinder, otherwise just about every tip in would be goaltending. It's a judgement call obviously but generally speaking if majority of ball is outside the cylinder and off rim,especially going away from bucket it shouldn't be called.

If you call it ANY part of ball inside rim then again, it should probably be called 10 times a game.
This post was edited on 2/12/19 at 8:14 pm
Posted by Wild Thang
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Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 2/12/19 at 8:13 pm to
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It looked like clear offensive goaltending.


Posted by wfallstiger
Wichita Falls, Texas
Member since Jun 2006
11431 posts
Posted on 2/12/19 at 8:13 pm to
Correct, they were checking time
Posted by namvet6566
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 2/12/19 at 8:14 pm to
No. 19 team beat you
Posted by GatorsGators
Member since Oct 2012
13454 posts
Posted on 2/12/19 at 8:14 pm to
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The rule cant be if any part of the ball is over the cylinder, otherwise just about every tip in would be goaltending. It's a judgement call obviously but generally speaking if majority of ball is outside the cylinder and off rim,especially going away from bucket it shouldn't be called.



quote:

In basketball, basket interference is the violation of (a) touching the ball or any part of the basket while the ball is on the rim of the basket, (b) touching the ball when it is within the cylinder extending upwards from the rim, (c) reaching up through the basket from below and touching the ball, whether it is inside or outside the cylinder, or (d) pulling down on the rim of the basket so that it contacts the ball before returning to its original position.


see b
Posted by wfallstiger
Wichita Falls, Texas
Member since Jun 2006
11431 posts
Posted on 2/12/19 at 8:16 pm to
Wasn't within the cylinder in its entirety, nor was the ball on the rim
Posted by thunderbird1100
GSU Eagles fan
Member since Oct 2007
68321 posts
Posted on 2/12/19 at 8:16 pm to
The question is what is deemed "within the cylinder" because it doesn't state all the ball,half the ball, a part of the ball.

Again, if they call it ANY part of the ball then you're calling offensive goaltending 10 times a game on tip ins, that's a regular occurence with a little part of the ball over the rim some. If the MAJORITY of the ball is away from the cylinder and especially moving away from it, not sure you can call that "within the cylindrr"
This post was edited on 2/12/19 at 8:18 pm
Posted by junkfunky
Member since Jan 2011
33893 posts
Posted on 2/12/19 at 8:16 pm to
Inside or above the cylinder is goal tending, outside isn't because the ball physically can't make its way back into the cylinder without being touched.

FYI, this based on the center of the rim for the cylinder and the center of the ball.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260483 posts
Posted on 2/12/19 at 8:17 pm to
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Ball needs to be all the way out of the cylinder vertically


Well you're just ignorant of the rules

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entirely above the rim and has the possibility of entering the basket,


It was neither
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