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re: What is a professional athlete?
Posted on 9/4/26 at 9:11 am to jangalang
Posted on 9/4/26 at 9:11 am to jangalang
You literally have to sign a contract to participate in camp. He went 2 camps where both teams provided him with travel, lodging and food. This is a tired argument. Do some research before posting asanine bs.
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Posted on 9/4/26 at 9:12 am to lefty08
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Any player who accepts money to play in a pro league
Is college football a pro league? Head coaches make $10 million a year, conference commissioners make $4 million a year, etc..
Posted on 9/4/26 at 9:13 am to RidiculousHype
quote:No, and it doesn’t need to. It’s a factual distinction, not a legal argument.
Do you really think this sentence would hold up in court?
The NCAA’s own rules distinguish permissible compensation from professional athletics and specifically address professional contracts and participation in NCAA Bylaw 12.1.2
Posted on 9/4/26 at 9:13 am to RidiculousHype
I remember when it was a violation for a booster to buy a kid a hamburger...
Posted on 9/4/26 at 9:13 am to tiger81
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They gave the players before them 5 years because of Covid,
Who gives a frick. These players do not have an inalienable right to 5 seasons.
The fifth season due to covid is precisely why you should slam the brakes on allowing NFL pros that play in preseason games back into college. Do it one time and then the precedent remains. So the 22 class needs to be thankful for the money they received and consider getting a job.
Posted on 9/4/26 at 9:14 am to Wellborn
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Not my opinion. NCAA rules specifically distinguish ordinary college compensation from professional athletics and identify signing a contract to compete professionally as an eligibility issue, stated in NCAA Bylaw 12 of Athletics Eligibility
Hmmmm you may want to read that bylaw again. That’s not the only requirement on ineligibility per that bylaw. Read it again and get back to me. It’s not just signing a contract.
Posted on 9/4/26 at 9:15 am to Wellborn
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The NCAA’s own rules
That's the point, they make no sense. They're trying to make a distinction where none truly exists.
This is a big reason why they keep losing in court, all over the country.
Posted on 9/4/26 at 9:15 am to stopitnow1
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You literally have to sign a contract to participate in camp.
These days you have to sign a waiver to climb a 10 foot rock wall.
Clearly not the same thing, genius.
Posted on 9/4/26 at 9:17 am to vidtiger23
quote:Correct. It’s not the only requirement. It’s one of several independent grounds for losing eligibility, and signing a professional contract is explicitly one of them. Which is exactly what I said.
Hmmmm you may want to read that bylaw again. That’s not the only requirement on ineligibility per that bylaw. Read it again and get back to me. It’s not just signing a contract.
I’m not saying I agree with it, or that the NCAA’s current governance isn’t full of holes and completely fricked up. I’m just stating what the current guidelines and bylaws are.
This post was edited on 9/4/26 at 9:19 am
Posted on 9/4/26 at 9:19 am to jangalang
Its not just a waiver. Its a contract worked out by the NFL and CBA. Again do some research.
Posted on 9/4/26 at 9:20 am to Wellborn
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Correct. It’s not the only requirement. It’s one of several independent grounds for losing eligibility, and signing a professional contract is explicitly one of them. Which is exactly what I said.
Which brings us back to the entire point. There are currently many players that currently not meeting that standard. Some on several SEC teams. So the singling out of individual people will get crushed until fair representation of the rule is established. That is currently not happening. Can’t cherry pick what you want to disregard and what you want to enforce. It’s in the leadership.
Posted on 9/4/26 at 9:21 am to Iron Lion
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I'm old enough to remember when if a college kid signed with an agent then he's no longer eligible to play in college. I assume today they all have agents.
Curtis Enis a superstar running back for Penn St got caught accepting a $1000 suit from an agent prior to their bowl game in 1996 season.
Terrell Prior accepted tattoos in 2010 and was suspended.
It’s crazy how far college football has gotten away from amateurism in 16 years.
People arguing contract signing is asinine
Everyone that participated in tryouts, mini camps NIL or revenue sharing signed contracts. Some were liability waivers others were for money. All of them were professional contracts.
Sankey on the stand said it wasn’t the contract, but the participation in the camp.
This would add a ton of returning players that participated.
The farts out the pants and Stankey isn’t sucking it backing into his arse.
Posted on 9/4/26 at 9:26 am to stopitnow1
quote:There are contractual differences. There were no contracts of employment involved.
Its not just a waiver. Its a contract worked out by the NFL and CBA.
Posted on 9/4/26 at 9:27 am to jangalang
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The Texas kid knew exactly how to keep his options open
The Texas kid got NFL coaching, put on pads with a NFL helmet and practiced on a NFL training field with two different teams.
Z. Harris got no coaching and didn’t practice one snap. But he’s the ‘professional’ and the Texas kid is not?
GTFO with that bs.
This post was edited on 9/4/26 at 9:28 am
Posted on 9/4/26 at 9:27 am to stopitnow1
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You literally have to sign a contract to participate in camp.
They sign "paperwork", but not a contract. It's usually a rookie participation agreement or a waiver. That covers liability, releases the team from injury claims.
A contract is universally understood to be a business arrangement for the supply of goods or services at a fixed price. But you want to act like there's no difference because it's your team in the spotlight here.
Posted on 9/4/26 at 9:28 am to Townedrunkard
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The Texas kid got NFL coaching, put on pads with a NFL helmet and practiced on NFL training field with two different teams.
Z. Harris got no coaching and didn’t practice one snap. But he’s the ‘professional’ and the Texas kid is not? GTFO with that bs.
There is one critical aspect you left out. I will let your friends explain it to you.
Posted on 9/4/26 at 9:28 am to vidtiger23
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Which brings us back to the entire point. There are currently many players that currently not meeting that standard. Some on several SEC teams. So the singling out of individual people will get crushed until fair representation of the rule is established. That is currently not happening. Can’t cherry pick what you want to disregard and what you want to enforce. It’s in the leadership.
If other players are violating the same rule, then enforce it against them too. That doesn’t make the rule invalid or make LSU’s conduct compliant. It just means enforcement should be consistent, which I wholeheartedly am in support of.
But this is an SEC website, and we’re discussing LSU.
Posted on 9/4/26 at 9:32 am to Capn_Bevo
The SEC does not want to clearly define the word “professional” because, once they do, they’re subject to unionization and CBAs.
That’s what this is about. That’s why the other 15 schools are mad at LSU.
The problem for the SEC is that they have now testified in court that the SEC rule in question, Rule 12.6, does not include language that makes the players in yesterday’s lawsuit ineligible for SEC play by meeting the definition of professional athletes outlined in the rule.
If the league enters a different interpretation of that rule in any further sworn proceedings, their lawyers and Sankey expose themselves to criminal perjury charges in Louisiana.
That’s what this is about. That’s why the other 15 schools are mad at LSU.
The problem for the SEC is that they have now testified in court that the SEC rule in question, Rule 12.6, does not include language that makes the players in yesterday’s lawsuit ineligible for SEC play by meeting the definition of professional athletes outlined in the rule.
If the league enters a different interpretation of that rule in any further sworn proceedings, their lawyers and Sankey expose themselves to criminal perjury charges in Louisiana.
This post was edited on 9/4/26 at 9:35 am
Posted on 9/4/26 at 9:34 am to jangalang
Yes there was. A college player was hit with sanctions because an NFL team bought him a flight. So, if that is a valid form of payment tell me how that isn't a valid form of payment here on top of a contract being signed? You are jumping through mental hoops at this point, lol. You guys just need to give up this notion that LSU is the bad guy and move on.
Posted on 9/4/26 at 9:35 am to Wellborn
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If other players are violating the same rule, then enforce it against them too. That doesn’t make the rule invalid or make LSU’s conduct compliant. It just means enforcement should be consistent, which I wholeheartedly am in support of. But this is an SEC website, and we’re discussing LSU.
Well good we’re on the same page. No issue here if they rule them ineligible and also rule every single one who went through the draft process ineligible and got compensated in anyway per the bylaw ineligible. Also go after Chambliss who’s only playing due to a TRO and was declined medical waiver. Go after Vandy with Pavia. Sue Bama for Bediako. Sue every school who told the rules to get lost. It has to be discussed as it is very relevant to LSU’s situation. If you only focus on LSU you miss the entire point of the whole situation.
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