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re: What is a ‘blue blood’ school?
Posted on 2/4/20 at 2:00 pm to husslemane
Posted on 2/4/20 at 2:00 pm to husslemane
Pitt has fewer wins than we do.
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Posted on 2/4/20 at 2:13 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
quote:It's not a matter of you claiming superiority for your program. It's the obvious fact that you are upset that LSU isn't considered one. Y'all, at this point, are a top-5 program. Be happy with that!
Try to find a single post where I claim LSU is better than Alabama.
I just find it funny how fans of the best program in America feel like they have to make shite up to try to make their program look even better.
1941.
By the way, you can throw away the '41 claim and substitute the '66 title to us and we'll be slick!
Read the history of the '66 season, and I'll bet you'll agree.
Posted on 2/4/20 at 2:15 pm to Rocket Surgeon
I guess that would include Rutgers? Possibly Army?
Posted on 2/4/20 at 2:36 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
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Texas begged (paid off) Notre Dame to lift their self-imposed bowl ban to play Texas in the 1970 Cotton Bowl so the Horns wouldn't have to get shut out by LSU again like they were in the '63 Cotton Bowl.
The same Notre Dame team that from '64-'70 finished ranked #3, 9, 1, 5, 5, 5 and 2. The same ND squad they played again in the next Cotton Bowl?
Strong argument.
Posted on 2/4/20 at 2:53 pm to coachcrisp
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It's the obvious fact that you are upset that LSU isn't considered one.
Not at all, I've already said LSU wasn't. How more obvious can I be?
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Y'all, at this point, are a top-5 program. Be happy with that!
Wrong again. At THIS point, LSU is the TOP program.
All-time LSU is top ten at best.
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Read the history of the '66 season, and I'll bet you'll agree.
Try reading the history of the AP poll. The AP was basically created to make sure Minnesota was named champions over Alabama and LSU. It started with Alabama winning the '35 Rose, but the yankee press wanted Minnesota to claim 1934, 1935 and 1936 from Alabama and LSU.
Posted on 2/4/20 at 3:02 pm to husslemane
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And more NCs...
More claimed titles, including one that’s not even in the records book.
Posted on 2/4/20 at 3:08 pm to EKG
My subjective definition of the term?
1. A school that has been nationally relevant for an extended period of time dating back decades. When you hear the words "college football" strung together, these schools automatically pop into your brain.
2. All-time wins. If your program is hovering around 900 wins, you might be considered part of this category.
3. All-time winning percentage. It's not just the wins that matter, it's the consistency as well. If your program is winning football games at a .700 or better pace over the course of the last 100 years, you just might have a blue blood on your hands.
3. Top tier bowl game appearances. It's not just the quantity of bowl appearances, it's the quality. If your school makes frequent trips to the Rose Bowl, the Orange Bowl, the Sugar Bowl, etc., your program might be a blue blood.
4. Conference championships. Has your school more or less dominated its conference for the better part of the history of said conference? If so...you might be a blue blood.
5. National championships. Because, at the end of the day, it's all about winning it all. If your team has more than three or four national championships to its credit in the Poll Era, you might be a blue blood.
6. Individual accolades. Has your school produced a lot of first round talent? Does it have a lot of Heisman Trophy winners or All-American players? If so...your school might just be a blue blood.
Now obviously you are not required to meet all of these bullet points. But if your program meets more than its fair share, you could call your school a blue blood school and few would protest.
1. A school that has been nationally relevant for an extended period of time dating back decades. When you hear the words "college football" strung together, these schools automatically pop into your brain.
2. All-time wins. If your program is hovering around 900 wins, you might be considered part of this category.
3. All-time winning percentage. It's not just the wins that matter, it's the consistency as well. If your program is winning football games at a .700 or better pace over the course of the last 100 years, you just might have a blue blood on your hands.
3. Top tier bowl game appearances. It's not just the quantity of bowl appearances, it's the quality. If your school makes frequent trips to the Rose Bowl, the Orange Bowl, the Sugar Bowl, etc., your program might be a blue blood.
4. Conference championships. Has your school more or less dominated its conference for the better part of the history of said conference? If so...you might be a blue blood.
5. National championships. Because, at the end of the day, it's all about winning it all. If your team has more than three or four national championships to its credit in the Poll Era, you might be a blue blood.
6. Individual accolades. Has your school produced a lot of first round talent? Does it have a lot of Heisman Trophy winners or All-American players? If so...your school might just be a blue blood.
Now obviously you are not required to meet all of these bullet points. But if your program meets more than its fair share, you could call your school a blue blood school and few would protest.
Posted on 2/4/20 at 3:12 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
quote:I'll have to disagree. LSU was the top program last season. The coming season is up for grabs.
Y'all, at this point, are a top-5 program. Be happy with that!
Wrong again. At THIS point, LSU is the TOP program.
As far as the '66 season is concerned, Alabama came off a 1965 National Championship and went undefeated to be relegated to 3rd place behind Notre Dame and Michigan St. who played to a tie with each other!.Total bullshite!
Posted on 2/4/20 at 3:20 pm to RollTide1987
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Now obviously you are not required to meet all of these bullet points. But if your program meets more than its fair share, you could call your school a blue blood school and few would protest.
And if you hit every single one of these points your school most certainly IS a blue blood.
Posted on 2/4/20 at 3:21 pm to OldSchoolHorn
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The same Notre Dame team that from '64-'70 finished ranked #3, 9, 1, 5, 5, 5 and 2.
Not really, the 1969 Notre Dame team didn't play in 1964-1968.
But from 1960-1970, LSU had more wins and a better win % than Notre Dame, and LSU was undefeated against Texas.
In 1969 Notre Dame was 8-1-1 (#9) going into the Cotton, LSU was 9-1 (#8).
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Strong argument.
I think so.
Side note, LSU and Notre Dame split a two game series in 1970-71, with ND winning in South Bend, 3-0 in '70 (beat Texas 24-1 in Texas), and LSU winning in BR 28-8 in '71.
So, from 1960 - 1971, LSU was 2-1 vs Texas and ND, ND was 2-1 vs Texas and LSU, and Texas was 1-2 vs LSU and ND.
Posted on 2/4/20 at 3:24 pm to Korin
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Alabama
Michigan
Nebraska
Notre Dame
Ohio State
Oklahoma
Texas
USC
this is the only answer
eta - also, I think that its also the programs that caused college football to expand in popularity in its portion of the country and nationally
This post was edited on 2/4/20 at 3:28 pm
Posted on 2/4/20 at 3:28 pm to 3rddownonthe8
I don't see it any differently.
Posted on 2/4/20 at 3:44 pm to AtlantaLSUfan
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They are also the schools helped by the media and seemingly ever other entity.
Posted on 2/4/20 at 3:45 pm to WilliamTaylor21
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A school that was once relevant, that is no longer relevant, but needs a title to make them still feel relevant.
That is a blue blood.
Then why do LSU fans in this same thread demand that LSU is a blue blood team?
Posted on 2/4/20 at 3:47 pm to EKG
Michigan should get the boot soon. A 70 year old man has seen them win exactly 1 national championship in his lifetime
Posted on 2/4/20 at 3:50 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
Posted on 2/4/20 at 3:51 pm to 3down10
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3down10
Has the only real answer.
A blueblood program is one of the programs that, due to being successful at the right time or being immensely popular a school at the right time, built college football into what it is now.
Other teams could have been blue bloods, but generally speaking it was during that time frame that college football evolved from being a subject of polite conversation into rabid fanbase.
Stadiums grew from holding under 10k to the real beginnings of the behemoth stadiums we see today.
National coverage really was national. Televised football games paved the way for people to learn about players and teams from the far reaches of the country.
If you peaked then, then you essentially became a blue blood. The term basically means "nobility". In other words, kind of hereditary.
Posted on 2/4/20 at 3:53 pm to 3rddownonthe8
I still don't see the cases for Nebraska and Texas.
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