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re: What is a ‘blue blood’ school?
Posted on 2/4/20 at 10:30 am to XWing atAliciousness
Posted on 2/4/20 at 10:30 am to XWing atAliciousness
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LSU baseball isn't a blueblood
LSU baseball basically sucked before Skip Bertman. So, no, I wouldn't count them as a blue blood using the same criteria as for football.
And while LSU and Texas are tied for 2nd most championships in baseball, I would consider Texas a baseball blue blood.
Posted on 2/4/20 at 10:36 am to WildTchoupitoulas
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LSU baseball basically sucked before Skip Bertman. So, no, I wouldn't count them as a blue blood using the same criteria as for football.
Well I think we can agree that the criteria would definitely be different, especially since the CWS wasn't even founded until 1947.
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And while LSU and Texas are tied for 2nd most championships in baseball, I would consider Texas a baseball blue blood.
Texas
LSU
USC (even though they haven't done anything in years
Arizona St.
Florida St. (albeit not one title which is honestly shocking)
Stanford
And maybe a few more, all in no particular order, fill it out for baseball for me.
Fullerton, South Carolina, Miami, North Carolina, etc.
Posted on 2/4/20 at 10:37 am to Korin
What about Miami? They have more NC than some on that list.
This post was edited on 2/4/20 at 10:38 am
Posted on 2/4/20 at 11:01 am to EKG
It is detmrtimined by early History, most seem to follow the 1970's to today. But it really goes back farther than that.
It is subjective to a point. But most should realize it goes back to early or mid last century.
It is subjective to a point. But most should realize it goes back to early or mid last century.
Posted on 2/4/20 at 11:11 am to EKG
Blue blood: teams that were dominant and on tv when cfb was first being televised nationally (50’s-70’s)
Michigan, Ohio State, Alabama, Tennessee, USC, Notre Dame, Nebraska, Oklahoma, Texas, Penn State
Tweeners: programs dominant during the 80’s and early 90’s that aren’t as relevant anymore
Miami, Colorado, Washington
New money: teams that were dominant primarily during the BCS and Playoff eras, but maybe were sorta relevant in the tweener times
LSU, Florida, Florida St, Clemson, Auburn, Oregon, and Georgia
Michigan, Ohio State, Alabama, Tennessee, USC, Notre Dame, Nebraska, Oklahoma, Texas, Penn State
Tweeners: programs dominant during the 80’s and early 90’s that aren’t as relevant anymore
Miami, Colorado, Washington
New money: teams that were dominant primarily during the BCS and Playoff eras, but maybe were sorta relevant in the tweener times
LSU, Florida, Florida St, Clemson, Auburn, Oregon, and Georgia
Posted on 2/4/20 at 11:22 am to kingbob
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Blue blood: teams that were dominant and on tv when cfb was first being televised nationally (50’s-70’s)
You do realize that Ole Miss had the best winning percentage in the country from 1950-1970, right?
I think having national championships before WWII and at least up to the BCS era, plus top-ten all-time win %, should put you in blue blood status. That would keep Michigan as a blue blood.
Posted on 2/4/20 at 11:26 am to WildTchoupitoulas
And then they fell off when they started having to play against teams with black players.
Also, Ole Miss wasn’t on tv as much as Alabama and Tennessee were back then.
Also, Ole Miss wasn’t on tv as much as Alabama and Tennessee were back then.
Posted on 2/4/20 at 11:48 am to Korin
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Alabama
Michigan
Nebraska
Notre Dame
Ohio State
Oklahoma
Texas
USC
At what point does a team fall out of being a blue blood? Michigan and Nebraska haven't sniffed a championship in over 20 years.
Posted on 2/4/20 at 11:51 am to EKG
Places where octopuses go. They bleed blue, hence the "blue blood" label.
Posted on 2/4/20 at 12:07 pm to Korin
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Texas has 4 in that same era.
Unless you’re saying only the AP matters which would be interesting considering 2003.
My bad Texas has 4, but it is only a list of 10 schools I got that part right.
4 National Championships (could claim more) and iconic moments in the sport in every decade except the 90's. Best season ever. LSU is as blue blood as they come.
Posted on 2/4/20 at 12:18 pm to r2d2
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LSU is as blue blood as they come.
Nah.
Posted on 2/4/20 at 12:21 pm to Irons Puppet
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What about Miami? They have more NC than some on that list.
Not relevant until the 80s and titles were largely mythical before the BCS.
Posted on 2/4/20 at 12:23 pm to Porter Osborne Jr
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At what point does a team fall out of being a blue blood? Michigan and Nebraska haven't sniffed a championship in over 20 years.
Michigan is still 1st in wins and top 3 %. Nebraska is still probably top 5 in both.
Posted on 2/4/20 at 1:09 pm to memphisplaya
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Never understood this one. They must have bought the blueblood title.
If “buying blue blood status” were defined as finishing top 5 seven times & winning the NC three times in the bluest blooded decade of them all, then yes.. Texas certainly “bought it”.
Texas was the King of the Hill in CFB in 1970, having come off an insane decade with the wishbone, first televised prime time night bowl game in color, mentioned in JFK’s “moon speech” & the highest percentage viewed CFB game in history with ‘69 Shootout vs Arkansas & Nixon passing out the NC.
Top 5 in every imaginable category at that point as well.
Know your history, the lessons pay dividends.
Posted on 2/4/20 at 1:11 pm to Korin
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Michigan is still 1st in wins and top 3 %. Nebraska is still probably top 5 in both.
And Yale and Princeton both have more national championships that those two. At some point, why you did in the past only carries so much weight compared to today.
Posted on 2/4/20 at 1:19 pm to Porter Osborne Jr
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And Yale and Princeton both have more national championships that those two. At some point, why you did in the past only carries so much weight compared to today.
Mythical titles, yes.
Posted on 2/4/20 at 1:28 pm to Korin
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Michigan is still 1st in wins
Of all the criteria that is the worse. In the early years some teams played 12 games, others 6. Some “wins” were against the fire department the day they learned the game. A win in 1898 can’t weight the same as a win in later years, its absurd.
Posted on 2/4/20 at 1:55 pm to OldSchoolHorn
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Texas was the King of the Hill in CFB in 1970
Texas was 0-4 vs LSU, USC and Nebraska from 1960-1970.
Texas begged (paid off) Notre Dame to lift their self-imposed bowl ban to play Texas in the 1970 Cotton Bowl so the Horns wouldn't have to get shut out by LSU again like they were in the '63 Cotton Bowl.
And as far as "King o' the Hill", I think Alabama might have something to say about that.
Posted on 2/4/20 at 1:59 pm to EKG
If you can be washed up and still be a blue blood, Pitt definitely belongs in the conversation.
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