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re: What does Will Anderson’s stat line need to look like to win the Heisman?
Posted on 11/16/21 at 9:49 am to Crimsonite94
Posted on 11/16/21 at 9:49 am to Crimsonite94
quote:Do you realize that there has NEVER been a defensive player to win the Heisman....NEVER!
What does Will Anderson’s stat line need to look like to win the Heisman?
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Posted on 11/16/21 at 9:50 am to Hobnailboot
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Guy is like a decent LB
You are like an idiot
Posted on 11/16/21 at 9:51 am to coachcrisp
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Do you realize that there has NEVER been a defensive player to win the Heisman....NEVER!
Never been a straight defensive player who didn't do stuff on special teams or offense, but Charles Woodson was obviously primarily a CB.
Posted on 11/16/21 at 9:54 am to pioneerbasketball
Didn't he also have a couple INTs? Or am I misremembering?
I feel like he destroyed iowa or missouri all by himself.
ETA: talking about Suh
I feel like he destroyed iowa or missouri all by himself.
ETA: talking about Suh
This post was edited on 11/16/21 at 9:56 am
Posted on 11/16/21 at 9:57 am to Hobnailboot
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Bro are you kidding me?? Guy is like a decent LB. You need to sit down and drink some water.
Posted on 11/16/21 at 9:57 am to Sneaky__Sally
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Didn't he also have a couple INTs? Or am I misremembering?
I feel like he destroyed iowa or missouri all by himself.
Against Missouri he had 1 sack, 1 TFL, 1 INT, 2 pass breakups and 1 forced fumble.
Against Kansas State he had 1.5 sacks, 1.5 TFLs, 2 pass breakups
And then of course he had the all-time Texas game - 4.5 sacks, 6 TFLs, 12 tackles.
He had a great year that year, but the Texas game was an all-time game on the biggest stage and it really propelled the whole thing. Before that game, he was having a "standard" All-American type season.
Posted on 11/16/21 at 9:59 am to SummerOfGeorge
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He had a great year that year, but the Texas game was an all-time game on the biggest stage and it really propelled the whole thing. Before that game, he was having a "standard" All-American type season.
I watched the Missouri game, he absolutely dominated. Maybe didn't show up on the stat line as much but it stuck out more to me.
I think Nebraska's offense absolutely sucking was a part of it.
This post was edited on 11/16/21 at 10:01 am
Posted on 11/16/21 at 10:00 am to Crimsonite94
Sam williams has similar stats and we play a three line scheme.
Posted on 11/16/21 at 10:01 am to Sneaky__Sally
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I watched the Missouri game, he absolutely dominated. Maybe didn't show up on the stat line as much but it stuck out more to me.
He blew up everyone they played. Destroyed everything at the point of attack all season long. And I mean, that Missouri stat line is pretty incredible - pass break ups (by a DT), an INT, TFLs, Sacks.
Posted on 11/16/21 at 10:03 am to hiremikeleach
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Sam williams has similar stats and we play a three line scheme.
Sam Williams is a great pass rusher - he has 10.5 sacks and 11 TFLs. He disrupts the pass game. He has 0.5 non-sack TFLs.
Will Anderson is a great pass rusher and a great run stopper - he had 12.5 sacks and 23 TFLs. He has 10.5 non-sack TFLs (he also leads the nation in sacks).
It's a silly comparison. There are VERY few guys who excel in both pass and run game disruption.
This post was edited on 11/16/21 at 10:05 am
Posted on 11/16/21 at 10:06 am to Crimsonite94
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Will it take a bad game from Bryce where it’s evident that Will kept us in the game?
Yes. I would say if Bryce Young throws 3-4 INTs and fumbles 3-4 times in the SECCG, that would probably sew it up for Will Anderson.
Make it so, #1.
Posted on 11/16/21 at 10:09 am to SummerOfGeorge
quote:True, but he had four TDs on kick returns while averaging over 21 yards per catch as a receiver.
Never been a straight defensive player who didn't do stuff on special teams or offense, but Charles Woodson was obviously primarily a CB.
Posted on 11/16/21 at 10:10 am to SummerOfGeorge
quote:True, but he had four TDs on kick returns while averaging over 21 yards per catch as a receiver.
Never been a straight defensive player who didn't do stuff on special teams or offense, but Charles Woodson was obviously primarily a CB.
Posted on 11/16/21 at 10:11 am to coachcrisp
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True, but he had four TDs on kick returns while averaging over 21 yards per catch as a receiver.
Agree - without the flashy ST/WR stuff he doesn't win that award.
Posted on 11/16/21 at 10:11 am to Hobnailboot
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Bro are you kidding me?? Guy is like a decent LB. You need to sit down and drink some water.
This post was edited on 11/16/21 at 10:13 am
Posted on 11/16/21 at 10:15 am to Crimsonite94
Chase Young in 2019 finished 4th
16.5 sacks, 21 TFL, 46 tackles, 7 forced fumbles
Granted there is no Joe Burrow this season of course, but I think it would take stats better than that to win it. 20+ sacks maybe? I don't even know
Edit: I think to win an award like the Heisman you have to have INTs and forced/recovered fumbles. A ton of that is luck on when you get to the QB and what QBs you play. If he forced 3 fumbles and ran them back to the house for example
16.5 sacks, 21 TFL, 46 tackles, 7 forced fumbles
Granted there is no Joe Burrow this season of course, but I think it would take stats better than that to win it. 20+ sacks maybe? I don't even know
Edit: I think to win an award like the Heisman you have to have INTs and forced/recovered fumbles. A ton of that is luck on when you get to the QB and what QBs you play. If he forced 3 fumbles and ran them back to the house for example
This post was edited on 11/16/21 at 10:18 am
Posted on 11/16/21 at 10:18 am to artompkins
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He has 12.5 sacks and 20 TFL with at least 4 games left to go and maybe 5. He's a hell of a lot more the average and probably the best defender in the entire country.
No chance he's the best defender in the country, and the best defender in the country never wins the Heisman. Homeboy was non-existent in the loss to A&M - totally exposed. Yo0u people are retarded - like somehow you deserve all the awards every year. God I cant wait to whip your arse.
Posted on 11/16/21 at 10:19 am to Buckeye06
The pace he is currently at gives him a shot at 20+
Last 4 games
- 9.5 sacks (2.38 per)
- 12 TFLs (3.0 per)
If he gets 2 sacks and 3 TFLs per game over the last 4 he'd end the year at 20.5 sacks and 35 TFLs. If he plays a major role in the SECCG that might be enough to get him into that 3rd/4th slot and give him a shot in 2022.
But he has no shot to win it unless he just has an insane run that even eclipses what he's done recently and just single handedly dominates the SECCG.
Last 4 games
- 9.5 sacks (2.38 per)
- 12 TFLs (3.0 per)
If he gets 2 sacks and 3 TFLs per game over the last 4 he'd end the year at 20.5 sacks and 35 TFLs. If he plays a major role in the SECCG that might be enough to get him into that 3rd/4th slot and give him a shot in 2022.
But he has no shot to win it unless he just has an insane run that even eclipses what he's done recently and just single handedly dominates the SECCG.
Posted on 11/16/21 at 10:19 am to Hobnailboot
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No chance he's the best defender in the country
Seriously, WTF are you talking about? Do you actually watch sports or are you just an angry stompy meth head?
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Homeboy was non-existent in the loss to A&M - totally exposed
Homeboy was literally double and triple teamed the entire game against A&M.
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God I cant wait to whip your arse.
See ya there
This post was edited on 11/16/21 at 10:21 am
Posted on 11/16/21 at 10:21 am to SummerOfGeorge
Sorry I edited. I think to win the award he needs to force a ton of fumbles and get a couple INTs. I think Young is a good gauge on what a rush end/LB would need in those categories to get close.
Young had 7 FF and Anderson has 0. That could be a key stat (I have no clue but that impacts a game more than just a sack I would say)
Young had 7 FF and Anderson has 0. That could be a key stat (I have no clue but that impacts a game more than just a sack I would say)
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