re: What are the downsides of Tenn-style offense?

Bama needs to have UT beat UGA and then win the rematch. Either way they will have to win the rest of their games and the SECCG to make it into the CFP.

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if you make mistakes and go three and out, your defense has no time to rest itself, wearing out your own defense even faster than you are wearing out the opponent's defense

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That's it.

A team like 2021 Tennessee couldn't succeed as much with this offense. Flashes only.

The 2022 team, so far, with it's upgraded defense (not talent wise, but depth-wise) hasn't had this issue.

So far.

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SummerOfGeorge

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Quality post.

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My neophyte opinion. Huepel is not married to any “system”. He’s married to deception and mismatches and will do whatever it takes to acquire them.

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I can't say enough good things about Heupel. He's clever. And he's open minded.

Put it another way. Nick Saban is Nick Saban when it comes to coaching football. Yet, I wouldn't turn down the chance to get on a poker table or checker board with Nick Saban for big money.

Josh Heupel ? I don't know. I'd start for small money, see how it goes.

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You have to score TDs - I think that's where the pressure can mount with an offense that is less "big play explosive" oriented like Georgia's and Alabama's to an extent was. A really good offense running their scheme will move the ball on Tennessee between the 20s, but it gets more difficult in the red zone for anyone and Tennessee is good in trenches which forces you to feel like you have to throw it.

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This is true but the counter to it is Georgia's balance. To his credit, I've never seen Monken get away from that balance, and they are a threat for it because their 12 personnel is as dangerous in the passing game as most teams 11 or even 10 personnel. They just, as Josh Pate put it this week, matriculate the ball down the field. That balance will put a lot of pressure on Tennessee's defense. Alabama was balanced until crunch time when they decided to throw it, and it gave us fits. If we don't put Stetson Bennett in the ground early and often or disrupt his passing it's gonna be tough to keep them off the field.

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True story. Also true story: UGA passes more than UT does

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UT runs more often than UGA, UGA runs for more yardage per game.

UGA passes more often than UT, UT passes for more yardage per game.

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There must be a downside.

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"This is the point about which everyone asks, “why doesn’t everyone do this?”

Well, because you actually reduce space for your receivers to use in running different routes. The route tree shrinks down and your receivers are dulled in terms of developing an overall skill set to beat opponents."

Veer and Shoot

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This is absolutely the best thread I've seen in my short time on this site.

No whining, no infantile "alter" bs every third post, just good ol' football discussion. A lot of smart folks expounding...

Enjoying it.

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Thanks for staying out of it.

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I can't say enough good things about Heupel. He's clever. And he's open minded. Put it another way. Nick Saban is Nick Saban when it comes to coaching football. Yet, I wouldn't turn down the chance to get on a poker table or checker board with Nick Saban for big money. Josh Heupel ? I don't know. I'd start for small money, see how it goes.

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Nick Saban is not married to any system either. He’s not an offensive guy so he hired Kiffin when he saw he needed a change.

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This year - he basically has the players to beat anyone with it. Or, we'll find out in the last test of it Saturday I guess.

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UGA's D this year isn't that much better than BAMA's or UK's, especially when you factor in the offenses played. This offense can and does work against elite defenses. That much we know but each game is its own capsule with its own set of variables. UGA may come up with something different or Tennessee could have an off day but Tennessee has been tested by enough defenses to render a verdict on whether or not the offense works. The interesting thing about UT's offense right now is that it has evolved so much from last season and is still evolving.

Last season, we ran a much simpler offense as befitted year 1 and the roster devastation we had. This season's offense is far more complex and has been getting more complex game by game. The offense we ran against Pitt earlier in the season, for example, was downright dysfunctional compared to the offense we're currently running and the main reason for that was we couldn't run block worth a damn early in the season.

And while we've never gotten away from the run, it's only been over the past few games that I truly felt our run game was doing much more than backing defenders off. OL is starting run block much better and RBs are starting to chunk off better runs.

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Nick Saban is not married to any system either. He’s not an offensive guy so he hired Kiffin when he saw he needed a change.

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Props to Saban. The only guy I've ever seen, at that level, change a formerly successful philosophy. That is so damn rare.

But with Saban ... I get the feeling it really is just a philosophy. I don't think he's an Xs and Os guy. Which is fine.

Heupel, on the other hand ? I get the distinct impression he is all in the Xs and Os. I'd like to see what can happen in Knoxville if he gets a high risk, high reward guy on the defensive side of the ball. One that says we're either getting off the field, or giving up the big play, right now. A Joe Lee Dunn kind of dude.

One thing I do think Mark Stoops gets right is complimentary football. The styles on both sides have to mesh. For the current Tenner style ? I'd like to see an attacking, reckless scheme.