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re: What are some of the worst officiated calls between SEC teams you've ever seen?
Posted on 9/30/16 at 7:42 am to Chazzy McRamzee
Posted on 9/30/16 at 7:42 am to Chazzy McRamzee
"no pass interference". auburn vs. lsu 2006
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Posted on 9/30/16 at 7:58 am to Chazzy McRamzee
OP I've never seen this which is a shocker to begin with. That is the worst call I've ever seen.
Posted on 9/30/16 at 8:09 am to NYCAuburn
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Seems like you just have a problem with the rules
04 extra extra point sure, as the only crew to make that call in CFB that year was that crew at auburn.
^ will have to check on this*
Seems like you have a problem with memory if you believe the other 2 were by the rules
-Ball was tipped after Doucet was interfered with
-Hester caught the 4th down ball and turned up field making a football move. Called a 1st down and fumble on the field. Reversed in replay
This post was edited on 9/30/16 at 8:23 am
Posted on 9/30/16 at 8:20 am to Lsuchs
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Seems like you have a problem with memory if you believe the other 2 were by the rules
Maybe you dont know the rules...
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-Ball was tipped after Doucet was interfered with
-Hester caught the 4th down ball and turned up field making a football move. Called a 1st down and fumble on the field. Reversed in replay
Yup...
Posted on 9/30/16 at 8:23 am to NYCAuburn
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Yup
Yup
They literally picked this flag up, not missed the call, picked it up
So unless the rules used to be: "if there is a potential another defender will be able to tip the ball at some point all recievers are eligible to be tackled at any time" then you are either ignorant or an idiot.
This post was edited on 9/30/16 at 8:32 am
Posted on 9/30/16 at 8:31 am to Chazzy McRamzee
Posted on 9/30/16 at 8:33 am to Lsuchs
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Yup
They literally picked this flag up, not missed the call, picked it up
So unless the rules used to be: "if there is a potential another player will be able to tip the ball all recievers are eligible to be tackled at any time" then you are either ignorant or an idiot. Likely both
So again you dont know the rule? Geez....there may have been a penalty but it wasnt PI. The refs were correct. You need a catchable ball for there to be PI. It was uncatchable.
Posted on 9/30/16 at 8:40 am to NYCAuburn
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So again you dont know the rule? Geez....there may have been a penalty but it wasnt PI. The refs were correct. You need a catchable ball for there to be PI. It was uncatchable
The ball was in the air, that is PI. Holding is during the route before the throw
How is the ball catchable with a guy tackling you preventing you from making a play?
Is it likely Doucet comes back 3-5 yard to make a play on the ball before the tip? Not very likely at all. But you have no chance when being form tackled while the ball is still 10 yards away from the DB who tipped it.
That was pass interference
If a reciever is running down the sideline and a corner in trail technique wraps him up while the ball is in flight then the safety later makes a play on the ball when it's not PI?
This post was edited on 9/30/16 at 8:47 am
Posted on 9/30/16 at 8:46 am to Mr. Elvert
Not calling offsides is def the same as calling a TD on a dropped pass out of bounds.
Posted on 9/30/16 at 8:46 am to Lsuchs
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How is the ball catchable with a guy tackling you preventing you from making a play?
Its not catchable with or without the guy "tackling" him
This is your problem
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Is it likely Doucet comes back 3-5 yard to make a play on the ball before the tip? Not very likely at all.
"not likely"
it was impossible, he was in the air. So unless he has mastered flight, it was impossible quote:
That was pass interference
nope
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The ball was in the air, that is PI. Holding is during the route before the throw
make up your damn mind
Posted on 9/30/16 at 8:48 am to Chazzy McRamzee
Posted on 9/30/16 at 8:48 am to NYCAuburn
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make up your damn mind
The ball was in the air, it was PI. Wtf are you talking about "make up my mind"
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The difference is if the ball was thrown or not. Theortically speaking, defensive holding occurs before the pass is thrown
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Once the ball is in the air and the defender makes contact with the reciever, it becomes pass interference
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Common forms of pass interference include: 1) a defender hits the reciever with his back facing the ball 2) defender tackles the reciever before the ball is touched 3) defender grabs reciever so he can't catch the ball
So what you are saying is you are fine with no call? Well color me shocked
When an offensive player holds well away from the play do you ever see it picked up? No, holding is holding. it's not up to the ref to decide if it affected the outcome of the play. Their job is to decide if an infraction occurred
This post was edited on 9/30/16 at 8:55 am
Posted on 9/30/16 at 8:48 am to Chazzy McRamzee
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That wasn't a bad call. It's almost like a tie at first base.
He didn't even catch it. He used his forearms and never secured it.
It's like a tie at first base if the baseman didn't catch the ball.
Posted on 9/30/16 at 8:54 am to bayou85
A.J. Green's excessive celebration penalty against LSU in '09. Dude literally did nothing.
This post was edited on 9/30/16 at 8:55 am
Posted on 9/30/16 at 9:05 am to Lsuchs
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So what you are saying is you are fine with no call? Well color me shocked
I see you left out the qualifiers of PI, you know the part you are having a hard time with...
Again, you need a catchable ball for PI, the contact with the player did not interfere with the catchability of the ball. The ball was tipped in an area that made the ball uncatchable. The receiver, contacted or not, was unable to make a play on the ball because of the tip. He was already in the air before contact and unable to change directions to be anywhere near able to catch the ball. This is why it was waived off.
This post was edited on 9/30/16 at 9:07 am
Posted on 9/30/16 at 9:25 am to NYCAuburn
^ Top picture
Doucet has not left his feet when your DB begins to wrap him up. While he's probably not coming back to the ball he has no way to, he is being form tackled and pushed downfield. Your safety is at the same yard line and manages angle towards the ball underneath Doucet
It's not up to the ref to decide what the receiver was thinking, It's to decide if he was contacted on a ball that was physically possible to make a play on. The ball was tipped a few yards in front of him, and he had no way of putting the breaks on being wrapped up from behind
This post was edited on 9/30/16 at 9:31 am
Posted on 9/30/16 at 9:35 am to viceman
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Wasn't a conference game but this one sure pissed off my old man
Me and your old man both...Bama was down 34-7 goin' into the 4th quarter and Walter Lewis led what should've been a comeback for the ages if not for that call...Bama would've won (with a PAT) 35-34...
The year before that game, in the same end zone, a Penn State receiver was clearly out of bounds (by almost 2 yards) when he caught the ball and it was ruled a TD in a game against Nebraska, costing Nebraska it's only loss that year...Penn State would go on to win its first national championship. Not sure if it's accurate, but I read somewhere that it was the same officiating crew in that game as it was against Bama...
It was so bad, Sports Illustrated prepared an article and illustration that mocked the large chunk of real estate effectively de-annexed from the back of the end zone and extended a small chunk to the left side to show the true dimensions of the Penn State end zone...
This post was edited on 9/30/16 at 9:49 am
Posted on 9/30/16 at 9:55 am to pvilleguru
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He's clearly not down in that picture.
His legs are really close together in that picture. His body is at the top of the 0. In order for his knee to be down, it would be near the middle of the 0. Use some common sense. His right leg isn't that far away from his body
Jesus Christ man
are you trying to convince your self a human torso is 2 feet long?
His right knee is completely vertical (and on the ground), his hip is directly above his knee. His torso is leaning forward and his head almost a yard from his knee.
His knee and head are both on the zero. You would literally have to a midget to have your knee in the middle of the zero with your torso leaned almost horizontal and your head still inside the zero
^ the zero is about a yard, or 3 feet. Maybe Wee Man would make your logic somewhat reasonable
And if you meant height wise his torso is above the zero: His left foot is on the ground, he right knee is further towards the sideline and logically slighter "higher" in the picture.
If his knee was not on the ground either (a) his left foot is not either, or (b) his knee would be much higher in the frame being closer to the sideline than his left foot
This post was edited on 9/30/16 at 10:33 am
Posted on 9/30/16 at 10:03 am to OldPete
Anyone who watched that 2006 game KNOWS that the refs screwed the pooch in favor of Auburn at least three times in that game. People forget about the phantom holding call right before halftime as Craig Davis was heading into the endzone.
The PI penalty was PI/holding. You cannot tackle the guy before the ball is tipped then announce that the ball is not catchable....wah ya gonna believe me ....or lyin eyes????
If you play a close game in he state of Alabama against either of the two teams in the state.....you HAVE to factor in officiating chicanery.
Still would like to know what was paid to the officiating crew in 2009 to blow Peterson's sideline interception....that was really bad. Surprised after that LSU ..or any team for that matter did not run a Switzer special against the umpire
The PI penalty was PI/holding. You cannot tackle the guy before the ball is tipped then announce that the ball is not catchable....wah ya gonna believe me ....or lyin eyes????
If you play a close game in he state of Alabama against either of the two teams in the state.....you HAVE to factor in officiating chicanery.
Still would like to know what was paid to the officiating crew in 2009 to blow Peterson's sideline interception....that was really bad. Surprised after that LSU ..or any team for that matter did not run a Switzer special against the umpire
Posted on 9/30/16 at 10:08 am to BK785
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You want to talk about a bad call?... LINK
FROM the video you linked, and the angle of the video, it looks like the call wasn't as bad as LSU fans have spent 7+ years convincing themselves it was. Looks like his foot could have been OOB. Also, you STILL would have to have driven for a TD, which we know based on how your O was playing was not a certainty by any stretch.
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