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What am I missing about why Ole Miss is going to get hammered?
Posted on 7/25/17 at 1:51 pm
Posted on 7/25/17 at 1:51 pm
I keep reading things on here about Death penalty, worse than the death penalty, etc. What I can't understand is what unique they've done that other schools who have sanctions haven't?
I mean they received benefits? Others have been caught doing the same. Look at Miami, Ohio St, etc. What did OM do that was worse than these schools? Were the benefits that much more?
I know Freeze dialed a escort service, is that an NCAA violation? Didn't Louisville get caught providing prostitutes? Didn't Petrino pay for an abortion and keep his job?
Don't get me wrong, I'm enjoying the show just like everyone else but I'm just failing to see what they did that was so different than other schools? I still don't see how what they did is worse than what UNC did and as far as I know they've had nothing done to them.
I mean they received benefits? Others have been caught doing the same. Look at Miami, Ohio St, etc. What did OM do that was worse than these schools? Were the benefits that much more?
I know Freeze dialed a escort service, is that an NCAA violation? Didn't Louisville get caught providing prostitutes? Didn't Petrino pay for an abortion and keep his job?
Don't get me wrong, I'm enjoying the show just like everyone else but I'm just failing to see what they did that was so different than other schools? I still don't see how what they did is worse than what UNC did and as far as I know they've had nothing done to them.
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Posted on 7/25/17 at 1:53 pm to PT24-7
13 level one violations.
No school has ever had anything close to that.
Going back to 2 coaches
No school has ever had anything close to that.
Going back to 2 coaches
Posted on 7/25/17 at 1:54 pm to bbvdd
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No school has ever had anything close to that.
Didnt Florida have over 100...
Posted on 7/25/17 at 1:54 pm to PT24-7
It's not only the nature of the violations, it's the number of them.
Posted on 7/25/17 at 1:54 pm to PT24-7
It's about the cover up. It's the same thing that got Nixon.
It wasn't because some low level staffers broke into the campaign headquarters of the democrats.
It's because Nixon found out about it, and tried to help cover it up, using his executive authority.
It wasn't because some low level staffers broke into the campaign headquarters of the democrats.
It's because Nixon found out about it, and tried to help cover it up, using his executive authority.
Posted on 7/25/17 at 1:55 pm to PT24-7
they have an insane amount of the worst violations possible which possibly spans two separate coaching staffs
Posted on 7/25/17 at 1:55 pm to NYCAuburn
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Didnt Florida have over 100.
May have, I just made that little bit up...
Posted on 7/25/17 at 1:55 pm to PT24-7
B/c it's fun to talk about - but in reality it probably won't be that bad. If you followed this board during "as the plains burn", you'd have thought Auburn would be bulldozed to the ground.
Posted on 7/25/17 at 1:57 pm to PT24-7
The violations themselves are no worse than any of the other schools you mentioned, at least not a lot worse, the difference is Ole Miss was blatant about it and attempted to obstruct the NCAA at every turn.
Then, they publicly lied about the investigation and proclaimed their innocence to the media.
They waved their fat, poor, stupid, racist dicks at the NCAA and DARED them to punish them.
Then, they publicly lied about the investigation and proclaimed their innocence to the media.
They waved their fat, poor, stupid, racist dicks at the NCAA and DARED them to punish them.
Posted on 7/25/17 at 1:58 pm to WestCoastAg
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they have an insane amount of the worst violations possible which possibly spans two separate coaching staffs
And we STILL couldn't make it to Atlanta. If that doesn't tell you that your place is "middle of the pack for most years" I don't know what does.
Posted on 7/25/17 at 1:59 pm to PT24-7
Because paying for abortions and paying players is not against the law.
If OM was involved in a point-shaving scheme then they are toast in the eyes of the law as well as the ncaa.
If OM was involved in a point-shaving scheme then they are toast in the eyes of the law as well as the ncaa.
Posted on 7/25/17 at 2:00 pm to PT24-7
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I keep reading things on here about Death penalty, worse than the death penalty, etc. What I can't understand is what unique they've done that other schools who have sanctions haven't?
I mean they received benefits? Others have been caught doing the same. Look at Miami, Ohio St, etc. What did OM do that was worse than these schools? Were the benefits that much more?
I know Freeze dialed a escort service, is that an NCAA violation? Didn't Louisville get caught providing prostitutes? Didn't Petrino pay for an abortion and keep his job?
Don't get me wrong, I'm enjoying the show just like everyone else but I'm just failing to see what they did that was so different than other schools? I still don't see how what they did is worse than what UNC did and as far as I know they've had nothing done to them.
Freeze.
He was defiant and the investigators hated his religious shtick and "aww shucks attitude" towards his rouge coaches and their relationships with boosters. The investigators made it a personal crusade to get rid of him (or for the Ole Miss fans to turn on him, whichever came first).
Now that Freeze is gone, it makes you wonder how bad the COI (not the investigators, mind you) want Ole Miss to further suffer. We will see in November.
This post was edited on 7/25/17 at 2:04 pm
Posted on 7/25/17 at 2:01 pm to PT24-7
In short: Ole Miss had many violations spanning multiple coaching staffs. They had people in the AD office and coaches directly orchestrating payments to recruits/players and ACT fraud. They didn't self-report any of this, and when the NCAA came to investigate they lied about it (lies of omission are still lies).
They will get hammered. And, up to this point, Freeze's resignation and the call to a hooker has nothing at all to do with anything related to the NCAA penalties that are coming. Again, UP TO THIS POINT
They will get hammered. And, up to this point, Freeze's resignation and the call to a hooker has nothing at all to do with anything related to the NCAA penalties that are coming. Again, UP TO THIS POINT
This post was edited on 7/25/17 at 2:03 pm
Posted on 7/25/17 at 2:01 pm to bbvdd
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13 level one violations. No school has ever had anything close to that.
Pell at Florida had 107 violations, 46 of which would be considered level 1...there is plenty of stuff to pile on us about without blatant lies
This post was edited on 7/25/17 at 2:04 pm
Posted on 7/25/17 at 2:01 pm to PT24-7
quote:You pose great questions. Makes you wonder why the hell Ole Miss fired their Assistant Athletic Director and one of the best Head Coaches they've ever had.
PT24-7
Posted on 7/25/17 at 2:02 pm to Vols&Shaft83
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They waved their fat, poor, stupid, racist dicks at the NCAA and DARED them to punish them.
Didn't UNC and Miami do this exact same thing?
Posted on 7/25/17 at 2:04 pm to dbeck
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If OM was involved in a point-shaving scheme then they are toast in the eyes of the law as well as the ncaa.
first i've heard of this. Id assume this would mean death penalty.
Posted on 7/25/17 at 2:05 pm to SSpaniel
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"middle of the pack for most years"
The entire conference laughs at this...
Posted on 7/25/17 at 2:05 pm to REBSontheRISE
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13 level one violations.
Can't get to 10 regular season wins but they managed to pull that off
Posted on 7/25/17 at 2:06 pm to Billy Mays
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The investigators made it a personal crusade to get rid of him
where is the evidence of this and, if that's true, can't you understand now why they did? he was FOS and if he lied about the other stuff, it makes you wonder how much of the "it isn't that bad and i didn't know" is true when it comes to the investigation.
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Now that Freeze is gone, it makes you wonder how bad the COI (not the investigators, mind you) want Ole Miss to further suffer.
doesn't make me wonder. i think it furthers the ncaa point that ole miss did lack control and had a failure to monitor.
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