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re: What am I missing about why Ole Miss is going to get hammered?

Posted on 7/25/17 at 2:18 pm to
Posted by Billy Mays
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 7/25/17 at 2:18 pm to
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where is the evidence of this and, if that's true, can't you understand now why they did? he was FOS and if he lied about the other stuff, it makes you wonder how much of the "it isn't that bad and i didn't know" is true when it comes to the investigation.



One of the investigators proclaimed on facebook how much he disliked Oxford and Ole Miss (he was on FB talking about how much hated the confederate flag or some shite). I also remember a leaked text message where he (or another investigator) was talking to a friend saying that the NCAA were going to get Freeze or the fans are going to turn on him. This may have been leaked on Walter Byerz (anti NCAA mouthpiece) Twitter.

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doesn't make me wonder. i think it furthers the ncaa point that ole miss did lack control and had a failure to monitor.



Good for you . Ole Miss doesn't think the 2nd NOA is 100% valid and a planning to present their case @ the COI hearing. Could the COI say "nah"? Sure. Nobody knows a damn thing.
Posted by More beer please
Member since Feb 2010
45050 posts
Posted on 7/25/17 at 2:19 pm to
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Have you not been following the UNC situation?


Yeah UNC actually has an argument since they found a loophole. You don't and did not.
Posted by NewArmyAg
Texas
Member since Jul 2013
365 posts
Posted on 7/25/17 at 2:19 pm to
Do you believe that or wishful thinking?
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
43822 posts
Posted on 7/25/17 at 2:20 pm to
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Billy Mays


Don't give up, don't ever give up.
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
67589 posts
Posted on 7/25/17 at 2:20 pm to
What is worse than the death penalty?
Posted by SSpaniel
Germantown
Member since Feb 2013
29658 posts
Posted on 7/25/17 at 2:22 pm to
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They make fun of the MSU posters


Just to be clear, we can still do that, right? They are, after all, MSU Posters.
Posted by Slackaveli
Fayetteville
Member since Jul 2017
15163 posts
Posted on 7/25/17 at 2:23 pm to
Hunter Henry, Dan Skipper, Alex Collins, and Brandon Allen shut that down.
Posted by SSpaniel
Germantown
Member since Feb 2013
29658 posts
Posted on 7/25/17 at 2:23 pm to
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What is worse than the death penalty?


Being made to play an SEC schedule when you can't field an NAIA level team?
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 7/25/17 at 2:24 pm to
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One of the investigators proclaimed on facebook how much he disliked Oxford and Ole Miss (he was on FB talking about how much hated the confederate flag or some shite). I also remember a leaked text message where he (or another investigator) was talking to a friend saying that the NCAA were going to get Freeze or the fans are going to turn on him. This may have been leaked on Walter Byerz (anti NCAA mouthpiece) Twitter.


please link any of this...
Posted by DingDongEddieStrong
Member since Aug 2013
3779 posts
Posted on 7/25/17 at 2:24 pm to
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Yeah UNC actually has an argument since they found a loophole. You don't and did not.



Having a witness lie about free product from Rebel Rags to implicate Ole Miss on an infraction is in fact a loophole.
Posted by BoarEd
The Hills
Member since Oct 2015
38862 posts
Posted on 7/25/17 at 2:25 pm to
The best part of that video is when the Mexican dude is laughing about Ole Miss frat boys waving Confederate flags in the stands and then says "you guys have never even been to an SEC Championship game and you expect to get away with this?"


I've watched that video like two dozen times. It's so damn funny.
Posted by Billy Mays
Member since Jan 2009
25277 posts
Posted on 7/25/17 at 2:25 pm to
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In fact Ole Miss invited the investigators back after all the hoopla on draft night. Invited them back with open arms.

Yep, except they didn't do any of that. The AD bitched and moaned about it.


You realize that the NCAA had been essentially been anal-probing Ole Miss since 2013, right?

I'd be frustrated too if my department had to deal with 3 years of bureaucratic NCAA BS, (where the NCAA found minimal stuff on the 2013 class) and then have them come back and reopen everything .

In fact, Ross Bjork/Ole Miss didn't start "bitching" until the NCAA started doing the immunity shite and not telling them about it. Everyone has their breaking point. Up until then, Ole Miss had performed their part to provide "exemplary cooperation".
Posted by bamasgot13
Birmingham
Member since Feb 2010
13619 posts
Posted on 7/25/17 at 2:25 pm to
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One of the investigators proclaimed on facebook how much he disliked Oxford and Ole Miss (he was on FB talking about how much hated the confederate flag or some shite). I also remember a leaked text message where he (or another investigator) was talking to a friend saying that the NCAA were going to get Freeze or the fans are going to turn on him. This may have been leaked on Walter Byerz (anti NCAA mouthpiece) Twitter.

I've literally seen this nowhere other than here. Sounds like OM fans clinging to hope here. If this was true, OM would have mentioned said investigator FB posts and leaked text messages in their response to NOA (and if not mentioned by OM they'd have absolutely provided this info to their propaganda local media and have them run with it). Either way, it wouldn't be something that people didn't know about.

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Ole Miss doesn't think the 2nd NOA is 100% valid and a planning to present their case @ the COI hearing

every school presents their case. I just think most unbiased observers would say the mountain of evidence continually piling up (and rumors of more to follow) indicating OM didn't really have a tight ship would seem to point towards harsher penalties. Your admin hung their hat on "Freeze couldn't possibly have been part of this b/c he has such high character and integrity" and then you fired him for lacking those things.
Posted by Vecchio Cane
Ivory Tower
Member since Jul 2016
17745 posts
Posted on 7/25/17 at 2:26 pm to
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Having a witness lie about free product from Rebel Rags to implicate Ole Miss


Never happened. Keep on spinning
Posted by UAtide11
Member since Apr 2014
2190 posts
Posted on 7/25/17 at 2:26 pm to
Fair enough.

IMO, the most embarrassing thing about this entire saga are the Ole Miss 'sources'. Anybody who has contributed a single cent to any of those clowns is getting fleeced.
Posted by Central Pork
Member since Jul 2014
1286 posts
Posted on 7/25/17 at 2:32 pm to
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B/c it's fun to talk about - but in reality it probably won't be that bad. If you followed this board during "as the plains burn", you'd have thought Auburn would be bulldozed to the ground


True. But the deal with Auburn never got to the stage of two NOAs from the NCAA with the number of violations. The Ole Miss group got cocky and went overboard on the recruiting violations and simply got caught.
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 7/25/17 at 2:32 pm to
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I've literally seen this nowhere other than here. Sounds like OM fans clinging to hope here. If this was true, OM would have mentioned said investigator FB posts and leaked text messages in their response to NOA (and if not mentioned by OM they'd have absolutely provided this info to their propaganda local media and have them run with it). Either way, it wouldn't be something that people didn't know about.


I see where he says his aversion to the confederate flag, but he is black...
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 7/25/17 at 2:34 pm to
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B/c it's fun to talk about - but in reality it probably won't be that bad. If you followed this board during "as the plains burn", you'd have thought Auburn would be bulldozed to the ground


True. But the deal with Auburn never got to the stage of two NOAs from the NCAA with the number of violations. The Ole Miss group got cocky and went overboard on the recruiting violations and simply got caught.


The escorts for recruits and gambling is ATPB level, the other isnt as they never got a NOA.
Posted by olemc999
At a blackjack table
Member since Oct 2010
13264 posts
Posted on 7/25/17 at 2:38 pm to
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Pell at Florida had 107 violations, 46 of which would be considered level 1..


Pell helped UF hit its violation quota for eternity.
Posted by allin2010
Auburn
Member since Aug 2011
18151 posts
Posted on 7/25/17 at 2:42 pm to
I hope Ole Miss gets off with a slap of the wrist, but that is not looking likely. Ole Miss' crime is that they gained a huge recruiting advantage from their actions. They jumped the shark.

Since the possibility emerged that Freeze and the Rebels might sign a recruiting haul that included Rivals.com's top-ranked receiver (Laquon Treadwell), top-ranked offensive lineman (Laremy Tunsil) and top-ranked overall player (defensive end Robert Nkemdiche), one question has nagged Freeze. Not even the question, truly, but the way everyone outside Oxford automatically fills in the answer without even considering another possibility.

How are they doing that?
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