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re: What about it Jalen Hurts graduates in December and transfers to Auburn

Posted on 7/21/18 at 3:08 pm to
Posted by Rabern57
Alabama
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 7/21/18 at 3:08 pm to
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Mine are just numbers. Cold, hard, objective numbers.
So are mine. You want to proclaim Scott the GOAT QB because he completed the only pass he threw last year?
Posted by John Milner
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 7/21/18 at 3:13 pm to
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Rabern57


"Tua was throwing alot more INTs per attempt"
Posted by Rabern57
Alabama
Member since Jan 2010
13975 posts
Posted on 7/21/18 at 3:15 pm to
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Tua was throwing alot more INTs per attempt"
If he threw 250+ passes he would have. But nice attempt to harp on that to spin away from the rest of the numbers and facts.
Posted by John Milner
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 7/21/18 at 3:19 pm to
No you dummy. If he had thrown 255 his numbers extrapolate to 36 tds and less than 7 interceptions
Posted by Rabern57
Alabama
Member since Jan 2010
13975 posts
Posted on 7/21/18 at 3:23 pm to
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No you dummy. If he had thrown 255 his numbers extrapolate to 36 tds and less than 7 interceptions

I'm sorry your can't comprehend the difference in garbage time and being a starter. That's his garbage time average. Unless Bama starts out up 30 points every game then he won't be playing garbage time all year. Averaging 7 Ints in 250 attempts in garbage time isnt great numbers.
This post was edited on 7/21/18 at 3:25 pm
Posted by John Milner
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Posted on 7/21/18 at 3:26 pm to
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garbage time


Clutch play on the biggest stage in college football

Posted by Rabern57
Alabama
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 7/21/18 at 3:28 pm to
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Clutch play on the biggest stage in college football

When he was playing to be the hero or listen to everyone blame Hurts for them losing. That's not the same position Hurts started in. Jeremy Johnsons number were better than that in garbage time and he found out the difference in pressure and garbage time real fast.

Go ahead and turn a blind eye to the situation he got those numbers in and ignore the bad and deem him the next Heisman winner. It's not long and yall will see. Throwing an int half the games (or more if they throw 30 times a game) and getting half as many yards when he runs for it and takes more sacks makes a difference when teams haven't quit yet.
This post was edited on 7/21/18 at 3:34 pm
Posted by John Milner
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Posted on 7/21/18 at 3:32 pm to
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Rabern57


Yeah. I know you don't want to count his playing time in the regular season because you say he had no pressure, but then you don't want to count his playing time after coming in behind 13-0 and the offense couldn't move the ball at all, and he produced a national championship under tremendous pressure. Can't have it both ways you dummy.
This post was edited on 7/21/18 at 3:33 pm
Posted by Rabern57
Alabama
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 7/21/18 at 3:36 pm to
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Can't have it both ways you dummy.
Neither can you. Coming in losing isn't playing under pressure. If you lose Hurts gets blamed. You win and you are the hero. That isn't pressure. If you ever played a down of football you would know the difference. But again my above post answers this.

I didn't say don't count it. I said thats his average after the other team quits. He has to make them quit under pressure first.
This post was edited on 7/21/18 at 3:40 pm
Posted by John Milner
Member since Jan 2015
7420 posts
Posted on 7/21/18 at 3:38 pm to
So coming in ahead there is no pressure, and coming in the national title game down 13 and no offense there is no pressure.

Sounds like Tua never feels pressure at all.

Cool.
Posted by Rabern57
Alabama
Member since Jan 2010
13975 posts
Posted on 7/21/18 at 3:42 pm to
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So coming in ahead there is no pressure, and coming in the national title game down 13 and no offense there is no pressure.
He knew it would have been blamed on Hurts if they lost because he was already down. That's no pressure. Even if he had lost at the end they would have blamed Hurts and Saban for not putting him in before. At no point in that game was he under the pressure that he would have been blamed if they lost. So yeah.
This post was edited on 7/21/18 at 4:00 pm
Posted by tattoo
Fantasy Island
Member since Oct 2017
1890 posts
Posted on 7/21/18 at 4:03 pm to
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Rabern57
Either you don't know what you are looking at when you watch a football game or you are blinded by Bama envy and fear. Tua has great pocket presence was rarely sacked. Jalen has greater top end speed, but Tua is quicker and more elusive. He's actually better on RPOs because of his decision making.

Tua may not be Heisman worthy or even a great college QB, but anyone who has even a little perception knows that he is a far better QB than Jalen. In the passing game there is no comparison. He is at least a good college QB, hopefully better. Anyway there is no way to convince a Auburn Bama-envy-blind fan about anything regarding the truth. All you know is: Bama bad, Bama cheat, Bama luck, Bama bias, Bama deserves death, Bama fools, etc.

You're the only fanbase with your view of Tua. Should tell you something.
Posted by Rabern57
Alabama
Member since Jan 2010
13975 posts
Posted on 7/21/18 at 4:15 pm to
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Anyway there is no way to convince a Auburn Bama-envy-blind fan about anything regarding the truth.
Just like there is no way to make a Bama fan see anything bad in the player they want to be the next GOAT. When Tua leaves yall will be the same way about whoever is next and claiming Tua is garbage.

Hurts played as a starter and Tua played garbage time (whether Bama fans want to believe that it's harder to start than play in a 4th quarter blowout or not) Even with that Tua had about the same completion percentage, same yards per attempt, threw twice as many Ints and got about half as many yards per rush as Hurts. Bama fans claim him hitting one open WR against UGA trumps all the stats or facts when comparing the 2.
This post was edited on 7/21/18 at 4:26 pm
Posted by Commander Data
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Dec 2016
7291 posts
Posted on 7/21/18 at 4:31 pm to
You aren't arguing with a fool but you are indeed arguing with the biggest Bama hater around here. Nearly 100 percent of his posts here are in Bama threads and filled with conspiracy and downright hate. This guy won't say Tua is good even if he puts 400 yards on them this year and regardless it was because we paid for him and moved his family here.

I kind of feel sorry for good fans of other SEC teams that have to play a Saban team with an ultra elite quarterback. It really isn't even fair especially considering we smoked most of them with a guy that sucks throwing the ball the last two years. Of course they are gonna miss Jalen Hurts.
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30818 posts
Posted on 7/21/18 at 5:45 pm to
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Hurts can't read defenses in the pocket and make accurate reads on plays. They had to dumb him down to half field reads and he still couldn't make those. If he wants any chance in the NFL he will need to change positions.


This is exactly right. As Gary Danielson said in a recent interview, Tua's QBing intangibles are elite and much of it can't be taught.
I hope (and believe will be the case) that Jalen stays this year, graduates and with the new 4 game redshirt rule, goes somewhere for his last 2 years of eligibility. He's been a fine representative for The University during his time there and EVERY Bama fan should wish him future success.
Posted by ksrph
Alabaster, AL
Member since Jan 2010
1173 posts
Posted on 7/21/18 at 5:49 pm to
The funny thing is all they’ve said the last two years is how horrible Hurts is as a QB.

Now Bama’s in bad trouble if they go with Tua.

It’s good to be the king!
Posted by Rabern57
Alabama
Member since Jan 2010
13975 posts
Posted on 7/21/18 at 6:10 pm to
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The funny thing is all they’ve said the last two years is how horrible Hurts is as a QB.
Maybe neither one is great. But it's also funny how Bama defended him til they wanted Tua and now he sucks. It goes both ways.
Posted by AuburnPanic40
GA 400
Member since Jan 2016
909 posts
Posted on 7/21/18 at 6:20 pm to
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What about it Jalen Hurts graduates in December and transfers to Auburn

There would be a ton of running the damn ball
Posted by Paul B Ammer
The Mecca of Tuscaloosa
Member since Jul 2017
2423 posts
Posted on 7/21/18 at 6:29 pm to
So when Tua comes in and Bama is up double digits his stats don't count. And when he comes in and Bama is down double digits his stats don't count either.

Ok. I get you


BTW Tua put up 26 points in 1 half against UGA. Choke on that.
Posted by Rabern57
Alabama
Member since Jan 2010
13975 posts
Posted on 7/21/18 at 6:36 pm to
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So when Tua comes in and Bama is up double digits his stats don't count. And when he comes in and Bama is down double digits his stats don't count either.

Ok. I get you

No. If you did you would have seen I said they counted but don't hold the same weight as being a starter and putting up the same numbers. Because if they did then yall wouldn't be bad mouthing Hurts with about the same stats as the starter.

Neither one of those situations has the pressure on Tua. But obviously it's over Bama fans heads. Yall are so dead set on hyping up Tua that yall are going to spin and twist stats ever which way to make yourself believe his numbers were way better than Hurts and was under the same pressure.

So just wait and see who starts or what he looks like as a starter throwing picks, taking sacks, and only getting 3 yards a carry on 3rd down instead of 5 like Hurts in the first half while the other team is still trying.
This post was edited on 7/21/18 at 6:47 pm
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