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re: Watched some film study videos on the Bama/UGA game.....scary how good Milroe is, but

Posted on 10/2/24 at 2:53 pm to
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
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Posted on 10/2/24 at 2:53 pm to
2 really good teams, a great plan from us, a great adjustment from Kirby, some great mental toughness from both teams in the highest of high pressure situations.

I already knew that Kirby and his team were elite, but I was happy to come to see confirmed that we are still in that conversation and our coach is what I thought he was. I expect there will be a few more wild, great, entertaining games between the top teams in the league like this one was moving forward (Bama/Vols, UGA/Texas, etc).

I also think it proved that in the expanded playoff era games can still be as exciting, intense and meaningful as ever and still allow great teams to lose a game like that and have a shot to make the playoff. Which they should.
This post was edited on 10/2/24 at 2:56 pm
Posted by Olemissrebs2020
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Posted on 10/2/24 at 3:00 pm to
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Posted by HighTide_ATL
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Posted on 10/2/24 at 3:05 pm to
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Alabama played the same way both halves. No adjustments. Not saying they should have early on, but even as Georgia inched closer, nothing really changed much. Even snapping the ball with tons of time left on the play clock. I don't know, maybe DeBoer feels slowing things down hurts the rhythm, but they were never in rhythm much anyway in the second half.


Not sure if this has already been said, and I'm not reading 3 pages to check, but I think this was partially by design (at first at least)

Being up 30-7 gives you some relative latitude to play conservative. Rather than continue to open the playbook up, I think DeBoer thought he could weather the storm of UGA adjustments, and there wouldn't be a path for UGA to retake the lead regardless of him not changing his approach.

UGA had to really go kitchen sink (and it worked significantly) to retake the lead. Choosing to disregard punting entirely actually wore down the defense that was ultimately preventing 3rd down conversions which is your typical sign of success on defense. Once the game got into the 4th, Bama's defense was fairly gassed from all the extended drives after 4th down conversions and some poorly timed penalties that also extended drives for UGA. Despite UGA edging back, DeBoer truly thought UGA wouldn't be able to eclipse 33pts and continued to keep it limited. A complete absence of trying to establish an inside run game despite UGA being in a 3-3-5 is evidence of this. It was an error in judgement that thankfully didn't cost him the game, and one I hope he corrects should there be a next time.

Ultimately, Bama won doing what it started doing...hitting the big play. So DeBoer collected the victory, along with the bonus of getting to keep something in his bag as for a possible rematch as well.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
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Posted on 10/2/24 at 3:08 pm to
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DeBoer truly thought UGA wouldn't be able to eclipse 33pts and continued to keep it limited. A complete absence of trying to establish an inside run game despite UGA being in a 3-3-5 is evidence of this. It was an error in judgement that thankfully didn't cost him the game, and one I hope he corrects should there be a next time.


I think this is definitely part of it, and one of his few negatives so far in his short career has been having this sort of thing blow up in his face a few times. Washington had an almost identical situation (with a slightly smaller lead) in the Sugar Bowl against Texas last year and had to hold on at the end with throws to the end zone just like we did. Definitely need to re-evaluate how we approach big leads against elite teams moving forward (a problem that is about as good to have as exists, at least).

Georgia hit all the 4th downs and then, when things got a little closer mid-way through the 4th scored in warp speed on 2 straight possessions when before they had all been pretty time consuming, 7-8 play drives to score. Credit to them for that, but it definitely blew up what I assume was our thought process on the time left and the score margin. All in all a lot of good lessons to learn and glad that we held on or they'd be a lot more painful.
This post was edited on 10/2/24 at 3:12 pm
Posted by Marktastic86
Pismo Beach, CA
Member since Dec 2020
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Posted on 10/2/24 at 3:09 pm to
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This will become the B1G Rant come playoff time.

It must suck as a fan to have no clue if your team is legit or not heading into the postseason, because all you've played is dogshit competition. Even with the geographically nonsensical expansion of the Big 10, Ohio State's schedule is still pathetic.

Penn State - overrated every. single. year

Michigan - destroyed by the only good team they've played

Oregon - Are they any good? No idea

That's literally everyone worth a damn that you play this season. No wonder you're so bored you have to shoehorn OSU into conversations of teams with actual quality competition that don't even belong to your conference.
Posted by coldbeerfan
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Posted on 10/2/24 at 3:29 pm to
Even though I don't post much, but this I why I joined. Solid post with valid points and no trolling.
Posted by LoneMDG
Birmingham
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Posted on 10/2/24 at 3:42 pm to
Was going to say, I watched this reply a couple days ago
Posted by Night Vision
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Posted on 10/2/24 at 3:53 pm to
Posted by Smokeyone
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Posted on 10/2/24 at 4:30 pm to
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As always


I believe the Vols at home vs Bama will be a great game. Neyland will be absolutely amazing if they can remain undefeated until then and I actually looking to attend the game.

Are you a Ga resident that was hit by the hurricane? The last couple of days I’ve been running gas and water to the CSRA. I was glad to see power starting to come back on today. I think a couple of my friends that way are going to get medium sized solar generators this year for Christmas.
Posted by koreandawg
South Korea
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Posted on 10/2/24 at 6:07 pm to
I don't live there, but my family was. My mom, sister and many other relatives have been without power for days now and still are. Thankfully, other than some shingles blown off roofs, no harm. Others weren't as fortunate.
Posted by koreandawg
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Posted on 10/2/24 at 6:13 pm to
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Kirby’s presser. Don’t take too much from the second half O.


That response was to a question about third down efficiency. He's saying tonight would not be a good night to judge our third down efficiency.
Posted by Smokeyone
Maryville Tn
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Posted on 10/2/24 at 7:40 pm to
Good deal. I’m going to do one one run tomorrow and take dog food and bar& chain oil down. That seemed be the biggest thing folks couldn’t find.

I’ll never live in Georgia again but a lot of my life is still there.
Posted by 49 to nada
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Posted on 10/2/24 at 8:02 pm to
Just as I predicted after our win at Bryant Denny last year, Milroe has gotten better in his reads and touch on passes.

Of course that's all he needed to do, and that makes Bama a danger to us all this season.
Posted by scottydoesntknow
Member since Nov 2023
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Posted on 10/2/24 at 8:19 pm to
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- On the play where Bell scored the go ahead TD, Bobo saw something in Bama's defense earlier that let him know they could beat them. Safety kind of gets to his spot after the snap and squats a little which makes it pretty easy to put a little move on him and get past him. They saw it on tape before the game. Ran a play to see if he would kind of squat, but didn't put the move on him during the earlier part of the game and then waited until that moment to put it on him for the go ahead TD.



Fantastic play call. It shows how UGA is to have gotten back in that game on the road after that start
Posted by scottydoesntknow
Member since Nov 2023
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Posted on 10/2/24 at 8:22 pm to
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If Alabama cleans up the silly and needless penalties we salt the game away about midway through the third quarter. I know there were at least two fourth-down conversions that we gifted you with flags.


I know the two you are talking about, but if you don't commit PI, Cash probably catches it and converts.

Hard to say what would've happened if you don't jump offsides cause we just threw it downfield knowing we got the penalty.


They were all solid plays by Georgia. Absolutely clutch
Posted by HenryV
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Posted on 10/2/24 at 9:26 pm to
Thorough analysis, well documented.
Posted by koreandawg
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Posted on 10/3/24 at 12:28 am to
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I also think it proved that in the expanded playoff era games can still be as exciting, intense and meaningful as ever and still allow great teams to lose a game like that and have a shot to make the playoff. Which they should.


I don't necessarily dislike the feeling. But it is kind of a weird feeling. I don't feel devastated by it. Some UGA fans do. I think I would if it were in the old format. In some ways, I feel better coming off of it than I do the UK win.
Posted by Gideon Swashbuckler
Member since Sep 2019
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Posted on 10/3/24 at 12:38 am to
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No real adjustments made by Bama defensively either.


Why would they adjust?
With 13:45 to go in the 4th quarter up 33-15, they forced Beck to fumble and recovered it on the plus side of the field. If the offense scores a TD here the game is over. If the offense holds the ball for 5 minutes instead of 2 minutes, the game is over.

No need to change the defense. They did what they needed to do to seal the game at this point. Offense was just ice cold.

Maybe if Hollywood scores his magic TD here, we're talking about a BLOW OUT right now, don't you think?
I don't think Wommack would've gone Charmin soft and not rushed Beck up 40-15. Do you?
Posted by koreandawg
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Posted on 10/3/24 at 4:43 am to
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Why would they adjust?
With 13:45 to go in the 4th quarter up 33-15, they forced Beck to fumble and recovered it on the plus side of the field. If the offense scores a TD here the game is over. If the offense holds the ball for 5 minutes instead of 2 minutes, the game is over.

No need to change the defense. They did what they needed to do to seal the game at this point. Offense was just ice cold.

Maybe if Hollywood scores his magic TD here, we're talking about a BLOW OUT right now, don't you think?
I don't think Wommack would've gone Charmin soft and not rushed Beck up 40-15. Do you?


the guy who was reviewing the tape was told that by Bama fans on his twitter that Bama went soft on defense and that's why Georgia came back. So I guess you need to ask your own crew that question.
This post was edited on 10/3/24 at 4:44 am
Posted by koreandawg
South Korea
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Posted on 10/3/24 at 4:54 am to
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I've seen lots of stuff like this trying to put lipstick on the pig of what happened to Georgia. Seems like copium.
In what can be described as normal game conditions, start of the game to the half, Bama obliterated Georgia on both offense and defense. In the second half Bamas defense forced 7 4th downs, that's a stop in normal play, but Georgia was in desperation mode and happened against all odds to convert all of them. The probability of converting 5/5 4th downs (and having the refs give you 2 more) is very low, gotta be less than 3% chance of that happening.
Even the best teams on offense, which Georgia isn't, against bad defenses (which Bama isn't) it's a coin flip on a 4th down conversion statistically speaking. It's an anomaly, it's not really indicative if anything except something really weird happened in a game. Does bama need to clean stuff up? Of course, we are playing freshmen all over the place and are 4 games into new systems in both sides of the ball. That should make everybody pucker, we are only getting better, no where close to our ceiling on either side of the ball, and we are capable of doing that to Georgia, supposedly the best team in the country.


Well, I'd agree with you if this game went like the 2008 matchup did. But you blew the lead. Which means

1. When you needed to keep the ball and score to put the fire out, you couldn't.

2. When you needed your defense to make the stop to prevent that from happening you couldn't.

Not a big Urban Meyer fan but he kind of summed it up perfectly. You won the game because a Percy Harvin type guy made the play that got your lead back for you. That was definitely the Joes over the X and O on that one.

DeBoer owned us for a little over a quarter. Bobo owned Kane for about the same amount of time and you end up with what you end up with.

For all the "Kirby's lost it" over the speeding ticket stuff, that defense had a ton of reasons to give up. After getting their butts kicked, they made several stops to give the offense a chance to make it tighter before the real run happened and the offense kept putting them back on the field in terrible situations. They didn't quit. Most teams would have.

It's easier to force third down when the offense is treating third down like it's second down.

Guy doing the film study said in the second half we would mostly take shots on first and then run the offense like normal to get a first down and keep the drive going.
This post was edited on 10/3/24 at 4:58 am
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