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re: Was the Auburn Kick6 truly a "miracle" play?

Posted on 8/14/14 at 2:56 pm to
Posted by parkjas2001
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Posted on 8/14/14 at 2:56 pm to
PPL are calling ti a miracle bec of the circumstances and timing of the play bec they know it is not a miracle.

It was a punt return set up. AU scored on 2 kickoff returns and a punter return(had another one but Davis was caught against FAU) earlier...it was just a special teams play.
This post was edited on 8/14/14 at 2:58 pm
Posted by WDE24
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Posted on 8/14/14 at 2:57 pm to
Some are and some are calling it a miracle or lucky because we keep taking the bait.
Posted by bmy
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Posted on 8/14/14 at 2:58 pm to
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UGA- Miracle

KICK6- Gamble gone wrong for Saban. Pretty stupid IMO, like having 6 Offensive Linemen on kickoff team. Those lineman trying to tackle him....

Posted by AU03ALUM
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Posted on 8/14/14 at 3:00 pm to
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Tell me you thought Yeldon's run deserved 1 second back on the clock.


Wait, wut? So you don't think there was a second left?
Posted by geauxcoco
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Posted on 8/14/14 at 3:02 pm to
When I saw Davis back up in the end zone incase the Kick was short....the first thing I said to everyone in the room is "Bama better watch that kid!" Want to know why? Odell Beckham did that exact same thing earlier in the year vs. North TX?? Shoot I can't even remember who the rent a win team was. But, point is...it did happen and work for another SEC team last year...just against an inferior opponent. Needless to say I was right and Bama was wroooonnngggg!
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 8/14/14 at 3:04 pm to
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hen I saw Davis back up in the end zone incase the Kick was short....the first thing I said to everyone in the room is "Bama better watch that kid!


I said to everyone around me in our seats, "he can return this for the win still" afterwards a lady from three rows up grabs, my wife and says, "Im kidnapping your husband and were going to GA to buy some lottery tickets"
Posted by IAmReality
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Posted on 8/14/14 at 3:11 pm to
The funny thing about luck is, eventually it runs out. I seem to remember the crab leg bandit hoisting the Crystal.
Posted by nc14
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Posted on 8/14/14 at 3:17 pm to
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58 yard FG attempt
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isn't that uncommon


Link?

I think the remarkable thing about the outcome is that with 35 seconds left Auburn was down by 7 and won in regulation. That doesn't happen everyday or by any plan devised in a coaches meeting. Sorry, just doesn't.
Posted by allin2010
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Posted on 8/14/14 at 3:18 pm to
Since Bama made a coaching Blunder and Auburn changed return men, plus the fact the game was tied, I do not find the play to be lucky or a Miracle..

The UGA game and the BlueGrass Miracle were Miracle, were Miracles.

Now if Miracles = winning on the last play, then yes it was a Miracle. But it was a football play that did not require LUCK
Posted by BlackPawnMartyr
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Posted on 8/14/14 at 3:26 pm to
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no. Long field goal. Personnel match-ups. ....not a miracle.

UGA game-winning TD = miracle.


That's my vote.
Posted by Alt26
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Posted on 8/14/14 at 3:31 pm to
No. It's wasn't a miracle. IMO it was an incredibly poor decision by Saban. I would imagine that the odds of the kick being A) blocked and returned for a TD or B) fielded and returned for a TD outweighed the odds of the Bama kicker making a 57 yarder in that situation. The return is a play that you don't see a lot because you don't see many 57 yard FG tries in college.

UGA - luck
Bama - just a heads up play by AU
Posted by BaconKillz
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Posted on 8/14/14 at 3:34 pm to
LSU fans are gonna constantly say it was all skill. They will pump sunshine into anything that makes Bama look bad, and their win against Auburn look as good as possible. It was a miracle play.
Posted by ironsides
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Posted on 8/14/14 at 3:40 pm to
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Oh, so its not the play itself(which is what this is about) but the scenarios and implications. I question some peoples definition of miracle. Something that is specifically mentioned in the rule book is not a miracle, something that happens with what seems like divine intervention is a miracle


Well okay, if you want to seperate the context of the play from the technical execution.

So down by 7 with 35 seconds left and win by 7 on a returned long FG? That was divine intervention.
Posted by JustGetItRight
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Posted on 8/14/14 at 3:40 pm to
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no.

Long field goal.
Personnel match-ups.


....not a miracle.




UGA game-winning TD = miracle.


What he said.

Didn't matter. Alabama wasn't going to win in OT anyhow.
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 8/14/14 at 3:43 pm to
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Well okay, if you want to seperate the context of the play from the technical execution.
So down by 7 with 35 seconds left and win by 7 on a returned long FG? That was divine intervention.


I dont think you quite get it.
Posted by MetryTyger
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Posted on 8/14/14 at 3:46 pm to
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i am dan
Was the Auburn Kick6 truly a "miracle" play?


His point now is that only Auburn fans would see the kick6 as not miracle.

A miracle play to me is something you may only see once or twice in a lifetime, and there is around a 5% or less chance of the play being successful.





LSU's Odell Beckham had a Kick6 return for a TD against Furman last year, and it was longer than Davis.'
Actually a Kick6 for a TD is probably easier to accomplish than a regular punt or KO return because you don't necessarily have fast athletic special teams-experienced tacklers ready to tackle the return man.

Alabama didn't.....


The Georgia game ender was more of a lucky play, but I wouldn't even consider that a miracle.
It was luck due to skill, concentration, and opportunity.
A miracle is an 80 yard FG or a 99 yard run from scrimmage by the FB on the last play of the game.
This post was edited on 8/14/14 at 3:47 pm
Posted by JuiceTerry
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Posted on 8/14/14 at 3:53 pm to
Why would those be miracles? It's just players trying to score. The object of the game. There are no miracles. Probably no God, either. Are we really even here?
Posted by bamasgot13
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Posted on 8/14/14 at 4:01 pm to
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Was the Auburn Kick6 truly a "miracle" play?


I wouldn't classify it as a miracle. I would classify it as extremely rare. An AU friend and I actually had this conversation on Sunday. It led me to do a little research.

I did a Google search on “how many missed field goal returned for touchdowns”. The article below answers the question.

Only happened 4 times since 1966 - never on final play of a game in college football history

It has only happened 4 times in college football since 1966. The “Kick Six” is the only one that happened to end the game.

If you look at an average of 100 teams playing D1 each year and an average of 12 games per team you get 1,200 team games per year. Divide that by 2 since 2 teams play every game and you get 600 games (conservatively) each year. Multiple that by the 47 years of college football games since 1966 and you’ve got a total of 28,200 games.

A missed FG for TD happens once every 7,050 games, or approximately once every 12 years. However, it has only happened ONCE in D1 college football on the final play of the game in history.
Posted by flyAU
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Posted on 8/14/14 at 4:10 pm to
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Sports illustrated seems to think so.



"War Damn Saban got out-coached and out-played" doesn't flow as nicely
Posted by flyAU
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Posted on 8/14/14 at 4:11 pm to
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bamasgot13


Very informative post.
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