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re: Was Bear Bryant a Racist?
Posted on 1/5/22 at 11:01 pm to deeprig9
Posted on 1/5/22 at 11:01 pm to deeprig9
I honestly DGAF. Would it change anything? This idea that somehow a culture that celebrates someone is celebrating the faults and foibles of a guy misses the point entirely. People are honoring the legend. Folks are paying homage to an ideal they’ve decided this mythical man embodied. The reality of whether or not he lives up to this created standard isn’t really all that important. We’re not talking about someone covering up the crimes of a child predator. We’re talking about someone who was a man of his times and likely held some views that we look at differently now. That doesn’t mean we applaud them.
Posted on 1/5/22 at 11:12 pm to sugatowng
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he’s not a dip shite forum member
Apparently he is though.
Posted on 1/5/22 at 11:50 pm to OleManDixon
Well, I met him quite a few times. Even had conversation with him. There was not a racist bone in him and it can be proved. He had grown up so poor he claimed that when they moved they just whistled up the dogs and put out the camp fire. And because of that he had an affinity for many black families who were also dirt poor.
When I returned from Vietnam and enrolled at Alabama in 1969, I happened to meet him for the first time. I assure you I was not inclined to stand at attention or salute anyone at that time. But that is exactly what I did to that man.
I saw him walk down the steps into a mob of reporters, cameramen, etc. they were almost as bad a bunch as the sports press us today…but with just a few words he had then quiet and respectful. Amazing performance.
And whoever started that calumny about him beating Mary Harmon probably was from Lee county where Pat Dye really did it. He adored and idolized her and she him. My god … she was Alabama homecoming Queen sorority girl and he was a corn-pone dirt poor sharecropper football player literally from the sticks of Arkansas. She was his dream come true.
That rumor is BS and you people repeating it are just plain evil because it isn’t true. I’ll give that He drank a lot..but was at work at 5AM everyday. That’s how he grew up and how he lived.
He had an affinity to black players and families because of a lot of similar experiences. You frocks growing up today with daddy’s cars, computers, internet… have no idea what it took to achieve anything in my era, much less Coach Bryant’s.
And the only thing certain is that op knows nothing about that man…he just is taking a shot at Alabama because of the upcoming game, or is an Aubie, or is a Bobby Dodd Georgia Techer who hated him because of Darwin Holt.
Well… fructose all you bulldog-shite posters. It’s too bad you will never meet a man like Coach Bryant. Because if you did, you would stand speechless.
When I returned from Vietnam and enrolled at Alabama in 1969, I happened to meet him for the first time. I assure you I was not inclined to stand at attention or salute anyone at that time. But that is exactly what I did to that man.
I saw him walk down the steps into a mob of reporters, cameramen, etc. they were almost as bad a bunch as the sports press us today…but with just a few words he had then quiet and respectful. Amazing performance.
And whoever started that calumny about him beating Mary Harmon probably was from Lee county where Pat Dye really did it. He adored and idolized her and she him. My god … she was Alabama homecoming Queen sorority girl and he was a corn-pone dirt poor sharecropper football player literally from the sticks of Arkansas. She was his dream come true.
That rumor is BS and you people repeating it are just plain evil because it isn’t true. I’ll give that He drank a lot..but was at work at 5AM everyday. That’s how he grew up and how he lived.
He had an affinity to black players and families because of a lot of similar experiences. You frocks growing up today with daddy’s cars, computers, internet… have no idea what it took to achieve anything in my era, much less Coach Bryant’s.
And the only thing certain is that op knows nothing about that man…he just is taking a shot at Alabama because of the upcoming game, or is an Aubie, or is a Bobby Dodd Georgia Techer who hated him because of Darwin Holt.
Well… fructose all you bulldog-shite posters. It’s too bad you will never meet a man like Coach Bryant. Because if you did, you would stand speechless.
This post was edited on 1/6/22 at 12:02 am
Posted on 1/6/22 at 12:17 am to DaveyDownerDawg
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After getting smoked by an integrated USC team in the 60s he helped integrate the game in the south.
70s and there were already black players on the team (freshmen, who at that time couldn't even dress out) when we lost to USC
Posted on 1/6/22 at 3:26 am to Clark14
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Well, that too I reckon. Some things never change.
You must have amnesia. We 9-1 against you since joining sec
Posted on 1/6/22 at 3:51 am to Herman Frisco
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He scheduled USC to play at Legion Field. For a reason, and it worked
One of the phoniest and overblown narratives ever and no one seems to remember that Bama beat SC the following year at SC in a huge upset.
The 1968 Gator Bowl vs an integrated Missouri team (Bama lost 35-10) was the game that made the first and biggest impression on Bear regarding integration.He was obviously impressed by their AA athletes and asked Dan Devine several questions his recruitment and "coachability" of his AA players.
Somehow this narrative about SC never seems to go away but it's basically a made up fantasy by the National sports media that seems
to get worse as the years go by.
1968 Gator Bowl
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At a banquet for the two teams after the game, Broeg wrote, Bryant “grilled” MU coach Dan Devine about “his recruiting and handling of black players. Per Broeg, Devine responded that he had “less trouble with black players than white,” and added, “I knew that from then on, the Bear and ‘Bama would be color blind
This post was edited on 1/6/22 at 3:59 am
Posted on 1/6/22 at 4:39 am to deeprig9
Coach Bryant didn’t particularly care for Governor Wallace. So, he was probably “racist” as much as anyone else. He certainly wasn’t an outspoken bigot. He definitely wanted Black athletes way before he could get them on the team.
Posted on 1/6/22 at 7:33 am to deeprig9
I don't know, but I do know you're a dumbass, so the government will take care of you. So you have that going for you.
Posted on 1/6/22 at 7:36 am to OleManDixon
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We’re talking about someone who was a man of his times and likely held some views that we look at differently now.
Exactly!!! MLK would even be lambasted based on today's standard.
This post was edited on 1/6/22 at 7:41 am
Posted on 1/6/22 at 7:39 am to deeprig9
Two of his pallbearers were black.
Posted on 1/6/22 at 7:40 am to deeprig9
Former player and SEC HC Sylvester Croom stated he never heard anything racist from Coach Bryant, or knew of no racist incidents while playing for Bryant, or as an assistant coach for Bryant, that he treated everyone equal. But I'm sure your "A guy who knew him once told me" is much more credible
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