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re: Updated Playoff Rankings - November 15
Posted on 11/16/22 at 6:01 am to jptiger2009
Posted on 11/16/22 at 6:01 am to jptiger2009
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Lsu losing to Tennessee at the halfway point of the season will not outweigh a 2-loss SEC champion who beat 3 top 7 teams in the last 5 games of their season. Period.
40-13. Period.
Embarrassed. Period.
Skullfked. Period.
Not getting in over UT. Period.
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Tennessee thinking they are automatically in if they win out is more laughable than arguing in favor of lsu getting in.
40-13.
Teams that get skullfked at home don't get into the playoffs.
This post was edited on 11/16/22 at 6:04 am
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Posted on 11/16/22 at 6:54 am to LunaFreak
A win at the end of the season means more to the committee than a mid season loss. Especially if that win is in the SECCG against a team that "skullfricked" tenner
Posted on 11/16/22 at 7:22 am to MACtigers
quote:If it comes down to having to decide in this situation and they pick the Big 10 1 loss team over UT for the 4th spot, it'll be the most Tennessee thing ever.
OSU/Mich - 1 loss non champ or Tenn - 1 loss non champ
Posted on 11/16/22 at 7:52 am to Chicken
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2 Ohio State 10-0
3 Michigan 10-0
4 TCU 10-0
If LSU wins the SECCG one of these teams is getting screwed. Big 10 going to be fighting mad
Posted on 11/16/22 at 8:05 am to Chicken
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5 Tennessee 9-1
6 LSU 8-2
7 USC 9-1
8 Alabama 8-2
Posted on 11/16/22 at 10:04 am to LunaFreak
LunaFreak,
I'm trying to let you down gently, but I guarantee you that if lsu wins out, they'll be selected over Tennessee. They'll actually knock you out of your #4 spot.
If LSU doesn't win out, but USC does. They will also knock you out of your #4 spot.
Prepare thy anus
I'm trying to let you down gently, but I guarantee you that if lsu wins out, they'll be selected over Tennessee. They'll actually knock you out of your #4 spot.
If LSU doesn't win out, but USC does. They will also knock you out of your #4 spot.
Prepare thy anus
Posted on 11/16/22 at 10:13 am to Mizzoufan26
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Yall keep saying this shite, look at the SOS and SOR for Tennessee it's lightyears ahead, and Tennessee dominated you all, at your stadium.
You can talk yourselves up all you want.
Tennessee is the playoff committees love child this year though, and they decided they are tired of paying child support, and want us to come home.
LSU is sitting at #6 my guy.
If they beat #1 they're going to jump Tennessee, not sure why Tennessee can't understand that.
Posted on 11/16/22 at 12:18 pm to Chicken
OK, here's my interpretation of the rankings...
the committee WILL take the SEC champ. That's why LSU is 6th, despite it's record. LSU is in position to be on the edge, and would jump if they can upset #1.
LSU is NOT competing with Tennessee for a slot, they are competing with Clemson and USC (as conference champs). As of now, LSU (as SEC champ) is in ahead of the ACC and Pac 12 champ. They are behind undefeated Big 10 and Big 12 champs.
Georgia... I see them as in, period. Undefeated UGA as SEC Champ is #1. If they lose to LSU in Atlanta, they immediately become the top at-large prospect, ahead of Tennessee, and the loser of Michigan/Ohio State.
Tennessee- as of now, they are the top at-large team, and look to be in if UGA wins in Atlanta. Like I just said, if you have to choose from them and UGA with both having 1 loss, that changes.
If TCU falls, I'm not sure if that will elevate at-large, or conference champs. Clemson/USC might slip in at that point.
My best guess is that they will take 3 champs, and 1 at-large this year. SEC will be in, either as #1 overall with UGA, or lowest seeded champ with LSU; SEC will be the at-large with either UGA or Tenn.
the committee WILL take the SEC champ. That's why LSU is 6th, despite it's record. LSU is in position to be on the edge, and would jump if they can upset #1.
LSU is NOT competing with Tennessee for a slot, they are competing with Clemson and USC (as conference champs). As of now, LSU (as SEC champ) is in ahead of the ACC and Pac 12 champ. They are behind undefeated Big 10 and Big 12 champs.
Georgia... I see them as in, period. Undefeated UGA as SEC Champ is #1. If they lose to LSU in Atlanta, they immediately become the top at-large prospect, ahead of Tennessee, and the loser of Michigan/Ohio State.
Tennessee- as of now, they are the top at-large team, and look to be in if UGA wins in Atlanta. Like I just said, if you have to choose from them and UGA with both having 1 loss, that changes.
If TCU falls, I'm not sure if that will elevate at-large, or conference champs. Clemson/USC might slip in at that point.
My best guess is that they will take 3 champs, and 1 at-large this year. SEC will be in, either as #1 overall with UGA, or lowest seeded champ with LSU; SEC will be the at-large with either UGA or Tenn.
Posted on 11/16/22 at 1:10 pm to dcrews
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Lsu gets the 4th spot in that situation
WTF? You don't put a 2 loss cheese-dick L$U team that got blowed out against a decent Smokey Mutt team & lost to a powder-puff Florida state Criminals team in the Final 4, esp. if you have a one loss O$U Walnut or powerhouse Michigan team sitting there, with their only loss to a Top 3 team. I don't care if L$U beats GA 222-0, either...some of these L$U people need to get out of their trailers and swamp shanties more often!
Posted on 11/16/22 at 1:27 pm to jptiger2009
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Lsu losing to Tennessee at the halfway point of the season will not outweigh a 2-loss SEC champion who beat 3 top 7 teams in the last 5 games of their season. Period.
you can pretend the florida state loss didnt happen, and a quality win over a mutual opponent somehow trumps an actual head to head beat down, but the committee will not.
Posted on 11/16/22 at 2:05 pm to BearBait09
quote:You can say that if you like, but the committee has LSU slotted perfectly to jump Tennessee, as of now.
you can pretend the florida state loss didnt happen, and a quality win over a mutual opponent somehow trumps an actual head to head beat down, but the committee will not.
The true indication will be what happens after Ohio State and Michigan play. One will lose, and drop. And basically become the Tennessee of the Big 10; a 1-loss team that can't win the conference.
If both Tennessee and LSU jump the loser, that will put Tennessee 4th and LSU 5th, pending LSU's game against UGA. Then we have Atlanta, Tennessee will be idle, and LSU will be in a matchup against #1. If LSU then wins, stands to reason they will get a bump up.
Ignoring record, going only by ranking, #5 doesn't beat #1 and win their conference, and then still stay at #5.
The question then becomes, do you take 11-1 Tennessee over 12-1 Georgia, simply because Georgia has the most recent loss? Or do you take Georgia, who won their division and played for the SEC title, and won the head-to-head matchup in addition?
In all likelyhood, Georgia wins in Atlanta and the committee can ignore this problem. They can kick it down the road and hope it doesn't occur again, until the playoffs expand. At that point, UGA and Tennessee are both in, and LSU is playing to get in too.
Posted on 11/16/22 at 2:18 pm to Scoob
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You can say that if you like, but the committee has LSU slotted perfectly to jump Tennessee, as of now.
Being next numerically in a poll does not mean the teams are close, it means there's no one in between them. that isn't the same thing. Not only would a 2 loss LSU not have a strong argument against Tennessee, they wouldn't have a strong argument against the loser of the Ohio St-Michigan game either.
Georgia is going to beat the breaks off LSU so this argument doesn't really need to be solved, but the idea that people think LSU is better positioned than Tennessee to make the playoff is so laughably absurd that it reveals to the rest of us that the people who believe it do not understand the sport they love.
This post was edited on 11/16/22 at 2:19 pm
Posted on 11/16/22 at 2:29 pm to Chicken
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Updated rankings are:
1 Georgia 10-0
2 Ohio State 10-0
3 Michigan 10-0
4 TCU 10-0
5 Tennessee 9-1
6 LSU 8-2
7 USC 9-1
8 Alabama 8-2
9 Clemson 9-1
10 Utah 8-2
I think the top four will be:
Georgia
Michigan
TCU
Tennessee
Even if Georgia loses to LSU they will still be in the playoff and so will Tennessee. There is no way I see the committee hopping LSU over the team with one less loss that drubbed them on their home field, SEC champion or not.
Michigan
Georgia
TCU
Tennessee
Posted on 11/16/22 at 2:33 pm to Mizzoufan26
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look at the SOS and SOR for Tennessee
LSU’s SOS like 4 right now iirc. What do you think is gonna happen once they play UGA?
Posted on 11/16/22 at 3:32 pm to BearBait09
quote:all your mocking comments ignored, it's you that doesn't seem to understand the sport.
but the idea that people think LSU is better positioned than Tennessee to make the playoff is so laughably absurd that it reveals to the rest of us that the people who believe it do not understand the sport they love.
#1 will play #5, same day #2 and #3 play. #4 will be sitting at home.
If 5 beats 1, and 2 and 3 both win, then 2, 3 and 5 move up. 1 drops, it's a question of whether they fall beneath the idle 4.
Usually, they would. Usually they fall out of the top 5.
It gets interesting here, because in this case #1 beat #4 head to head, won the division over them, and still have a better overall record.
Posted on 11/16/22 at 3:36 pm to lsufball19
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LSU’s SOS like 4 right now iirc. What do you think is gonna happen once they play UGA?
Lose badly?
Was that the question?
40-13 or so
Posted on 11/16/22 at 3:52 pm to Mizzoufan26
My question for the posters- why do YOU think the committee has LSU ranked so high? Above a couple teams that could easily win out, finish 12-1 and win P5 conferences?
Posted on 11/16/22 at 4:38 pm to justaniceguy
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can't believe LSU is ranked
Posted on 11/16/22 at 5:01 pm to Mizzoufan26
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Lose badly? Was that the question? 40-13 or so
I’m sorry, are you on the Tennessee or Missouri bandwagon this week? Missouri got ax murdered by Tennessee a few days ago. Why are you telling me the score of the LSU game?
Posted on 11/17/22 at 7:10 am to Scoob
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Usually, they would. Usually they fall out of the top 5.
It gets interesting here, because in this case #1 beat #4 head to head, won the division over them, and still have a better overall record.
I can't see any way that Georgia falls out of the top 4 by losing to LSU, with the possible exception that LSU mudholes them, which I just cannot see happening, in fact I just can't see LSU beating them, but LSU does seem to play up (or down) to their opponents. Barring a crazy loss by TCU, Tennessee, or the Michigan/tOSU winner in the B1G CCG, I just don't see any way the top 4 are not UGA Michigan/tOSU, TCU, and Tennessee. LSU "may" have had a case if they had lost that second game in a close match at home to someone NOT named Tennessee, but that loss kills their hopes.
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