re: Updated NCAA Baseball Tournament All-Time Records (SEC)

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Didn't say it wasn't, but 2 national titles means more than 22 appearances. If they had 4 or 5 total appearances, then yeah maybe, but that's not the case for either of those schools.

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I mean it does and it doesn't. Winning in Omaha is a flukey thing given that each team isn't exactly playing each other in 3 game series. The appearance is reflective of performance longterm across the whole regular season and tournament. The title reflects how you did against the best of the best that year. 2 titles is certainly a high achievement but 22 seasons good enough to lead to Omaha is a pretty lofty achievement as well. Only good enough for 8th all time but respectable nonetheless.

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well this is an all-time list, so how long ago they appeared shouldn't matter. If recency was a thing, all but one of USC's 12 titles and majority of their appearances came 40 years ago, so why are they even #2? But seriously, FSU having 6 more appearances than Stanford doesn't trump 2 fewer national titles, just no way

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I was just tossing out recency for the sake of argument; if FSU can stake claim to their spot I think it's the consistency with which they've reached Omaha (unlike USC which, as you mentioned, has been all but a dead program). I can see the argument for Stanford and even Oklahoma State over FSU. If you factor in Runner-Up finishes, it would actually bump Oklahoma State over FSU which would be tied with Stanford (in which case you can give the nod to Stanford for having titles in a tie-breaker)

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That's not what I'm saying. You titled this list "CWS performance." To me, that means how teams have performed at the College World Series. However, based on what you said was your basis was that getting to Omaha was an accomplishment in and of itself and that national titles were a bonus. Given those parameters, this sounds more like an NCAAT performance list since since we're only talking about getting there (don't have to win any games in Omaha to get credit) and then talking about winning it. It just doesn't make sense to call it an CWS Performance ranking if winning percentage, total wins, etc in Omaha don't go into the metric.

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I see what you're saying but I'm not going to put the effort into looking up CWS records for each team, let alone pairing it down to the Super Regional era all for a throw away post that only 1 or 2 people have responded to. Let's just agree to call it NCAAT performance if it makes you feel better

Holy shite. What a drop off in wins after SC/UF and the rest considering the amount of appearances.

See? All I had to do was frustrate you enough with inaccuracy to get someone else to do the extra leg work

Actually, not many of your numbers are correct. At quick glance, LSU has 148 tourney wins over their history.

To answer your question, which is a really really great question for OM fans, the baseball post season as an OM fan is just a brutal thing so this is long but complicated so bear with me. It is so frustrating to have the players, facilities, fan support, reg season success, a very good coach who built you up to where you are now but can't get you over the hump, and almost know you are going to fail in the post season.

O.M.A.H.A. is a freaking acronym, so there's that. Be an adult as hard as that is in the moment and realize the worst that comes from it is taking shite at the office or on a message board full of rantards. Multiple CWS trips makes that go away but so does a Natty. However, winning a Natty is a life moment deal that is shared generationally among fans and those fans' children's children.

Having a successful program, facilities, a great time with winning the majority of your games, the take your kids to the ball park and having a blast and raising your kids in that is also big.

You are playing for the Natty but you go to the park to enjoy life. Hard call.

I guess I wouldn't trade my family experience at Swayze as is because if we were terrible most of the time but once was a one hit wonder that happened into winning a Natty and didn't have what we have at Swayze, my family would not go and that would be a shame given how much my son and even my wife enjoys the experience.

I must have missed a season. I came up with 148, but knew the number in OP was very low for LSU and low for Arkansas.

Quick glance also shows aTm shorted about 5 wins as well.

I think you’re leaving off wins in the College World Series. Those wins look like it’s for regional and super regional wins. At least for LSU. Not sure though.

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I think you’re leaving off wins in the College World Series. Those wins look like it’s for regional and super regional wins. At least for LSU. Not sure though.

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Wow. Thanks. I don't know if this is exact but it got me pointed in the right direction.

In the NCAA Record Books they have things split: wins in the "Preliminary Round" (which is where I initially pulled the data, basically regional wins/losses), "Super Regional Records", and then "CWS Records" All of these are separated into different sections and across two different record books.

Sorry about that. I will fix everything ASAP. At least I will have a ton more data to add as well. Thanks for the catch my brothers! Like I said, extracting across PDFs isn't the most fun, but once I finish it, it should be a pretty exciting database to have. Making a college baseball historical database isn't as fun as just creating a web scrapper like it was for NFL and CFB.

Wouldn't you be better served ranking by number of titles relative to number of appearances?

20 or more appearances:

1. USC - 21 appearances, 12 titles (57.1%)
2. Arizona State - 22 appearances, 5 titles (22.7%)
3. t.u. - 36 appearances, 6 titles (16.7%)
4. Miami - 25 appearances, 4 titles (16%)
5. Oklahoma State - 20 appearances, 1 title (5%)
6. Florida Sate - 22 appearances, 0 titles (0%)

10 or more appearances:

7. LSU - 18 appearances, 6 titles (33.3%)
8. Arizona - 17 appearances, 4 titles (23.5%)
9. Fullerton - 18 appearances, 4 titles (22.2%)
10. Oklahoma - 10 appearances, 2 titles (20%)
11. South Carolina - 11 appearances, 2 titles (18.2%)
12. Stanford - 16 appearances, 2 titles (12.5%)
13. Florida - 12 appearances, 1 title (8.3%)
14. Clemson - 12 appearances, 0 titles (0%)
15. North Carolina - 11 appearances, 0 titles (0%)
16. Mississippi State - 10 appearances, 0 titles (0%)

Fewer than 10 appearances

17. Minnesota - 5 appearances, 3 titles (60%)
18. California - 6 appearances, 2 titles (33.3%)
T19. Oregon State - 7 appearances, 2 titles (28.6%)
T19. Michigan - 7 appearances, 2 titles (28.6%)
T21. Rice - 7 appearances, 1 title (14.3%)
T21. Wichita State - 7 appearances, 1 title (14.3%)
T23. Georgia - 6 appearances, 1 title (16.7%)
T23. Missouri - 6 appearances, 1 title (16.7%)
25. Arkansas - 9 appearances, 0 titles (0%)