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re: UNLV QB quits immediately over NIL
Posted on 9/26/24 at 12:42 pm to captdalton
Posted on 9/26/24 at 12:42 pm to captdalton
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The annual out of state undergrad tuition cost at UNLV is a little over $26k.
It shouldn’t be is my point
Most colleges charge way too much per credit hour, and most degrees require significantly more credits than necessary to be proficient in that field
I won’t go as far as to say college is a “scam,” but I will absolutely say they’re overcharging the shite out of these kids (and have been for a while)
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Posted on 9/26/24 at 1:39 pm to HighTide_ATL
I don’t think gas should be $3/gallon but it is. If I fill up and then go inside the station to pay, I can’t tell them I believe it is only worth $2/gallon so that is what I am going to pay them.
If a college charges $30,000 for tuition, then a full tuition scholarship is worth $30,000. It doesn’t matter whether you think it is worth it or not, the value is still $30,000.
You are trying to start a completely new and different argument.
If a college charges $30,000 for tuition, then a full tuition scholarship is worth $30,000. It doesn’t matter whether you think it is worth it or not, the value is still $30,000.
You are trying to start a completely new and different argument.
Posted on 9/26/24 at 5:28 pm to captdalton
Begs the question on whether he'll get blackballed by all Power 4 coaches to prove a point to their players.
Posted on 9/26/24 at 5:36 pm to BlacknGoldNuts
I don’t think he will get blackballed by all. There will be a coach with a horrible quarterback room who is one season away from being fired who will be desperate enough to try anything. But I think most will look at it as risk/reward.
And most will conclude there is more risk with this guy than there is reward.
If this was the next Cam Newton, it would be different. But this guy is not the next Cam Newton, even if his agent and dad convinced him that he is.
And most will conclude there is more risk with this guy than there is reward.
If this was the next Cam Newton, it would be different. But this guy is not the next Cam Newton, even if his agent and dad convinced him that he is.
Posted on 9/26/24 at 5:50 pm to captdalton
Here is what a former teammate (Holy Cross) has to say about this situation. He basically repeated what the father said - That Sluka was only paid $3000 for relocation expenses, and that Sluka had to pay out of his own pocket for living expenses. Just a bad look for UNLV Football program and Collective.
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Posted on 9/26/24 at 6:06 pm to Marcusaureliussayshi
Further proof of why contracts exist.
And how does this guy know what an assistant coach at UNLV told Matt Sluka and his family?
You would think if there were texts or anything in writing they would have come out by now.
And how does this guy know what an assistant coach at UNLV told Matt Sluka and his family?
You would think if there were texts or anything in writing they would have come out by now.
Posted on 9/26/24 at 6:09 pm to NaturalStateReb
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Posters: I HATE SOCIALISM! SOCIALISM IS BAD! NO MORE REGULATIONS! WHY WON'T THEY LET THE FREE MARKET COOK?
Also Posters: THE FREE MARKET IS EATING THE THING I LOVE! WE NEED RULES AND REGULATIONS AND GUARDRAILS AND ALL THE THINGS! IT'S THE WILD WEST! [faints]
You've only demonstrated a complete lack of understanding what the free market is if you think these things contradict each other.
You and anyone else are 100% free to get together and agree to certain rules/standards in order to create a product. You can run that organization anyone you wish.
In a capitalist society based on a constitutional government, you would be free to start your own socialist community. Where you could all share resources or anything else you wanted to do. And another neighborhood might just be completely different.
The difference is your freedom to choose. And if you prevent people from doing either, then you've taken away their freedom and you no longer have a free market.
The NCAA is 100% voluntary. School's are not forced to join, no player is forced to play. It's not the government. Other leagues and competitors are 100% free to form and compete against the NCAA, and they have tried - the players get almost no benefits and about 50k a year.
If they were forcing schools to join the NCAA and forcing players to join the NCAA, then it would be another story.
Posted on 9/26/24 at 6:13 pm to captdalton
I suspect that Sluka and his parents were not exposed to how Division 1 football programs do business. If his experience was getting recruited and playing for Holy Cross, he might have done a lot more business with a handshake than with paper contracts. I also doubt that all these armchair experts with that 20/20 hindsight would have crossed every t and dotted every I if they were in his place when the agreements were made.
Posted on 9/26/24 at 7:26 pm to Allthatfades
Can’t wait to find out which P2 NIL got to the young man. Odom needs to take whatever B12 or ACC job he gets offered because this is going to be the new normal for all G5
Posted on 9/26/24 at 8:53 pm to HighTide_ATL
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Value of most degrees is dramatically overstated these days. Hell, it was when I was in school too
Who is talking about the value of a degree? That’s entirely dependent on the career field, ability of the employee, availability of labor, etc.
I’m talking about the tuition, room and board, meals, medical care, stipend, trips, and everything else a NCAA athlete gets for free.
Non-resident SEMESTER cost for an out of state student at both Auburn and Alabama is estimated by both schools to be > $55,000 - which obviously doesn’t include the extra benefits given a student athlete.
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Posted on 9/26/24 at 9:05 pm to Marcusaureliussayshi
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I also doubt that all these armchair experts with that 20/20 hindsight would have crossed every t and dotted every I if they were in his place when the agreements were made.
I am guessing many of us have purchased houses that cost more than $100,000. Just because the realtor said it was a great deal doesn’t mean it is. Unless you are a dumbshit, you get an appraisal and an inspection.
Based on this Sluka show; I now believe that 25% of the people here have a net worth of less than $5,000 and have never signed a contract.
Posted on 9/26/24 at 9:07 pm to Allthatfades
Apparently he was promised $100K and received $3K. So from that standpoint I don’t blame him but, yeah, this ain’t CFB anymore it’s minor league pro ball.
Posted on 9/26/24 at 9:39 pm to HTX Horn
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Apparently he was promised $100K
Apparently. I expect he will provide the contract any day now.
Maybe I will take this opportunity to say that sometimes people will tell you something that isn’t true.
Posted on 9/26/24 at 9:57 pm to Wanruningchen
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Straight and to the point. I like that statement.
Red flags all over here.
Why isn’t the kid living in an all expenses paid dorm? $100,000 doesn’t go far after taxes, agent commission and expenses, room & board, utilities, etc.
How many agents did the QB’s family contact before they find one that says they can get you more money?
Lots of he said/she said here. Anything in writing?
Verbal discussions require a meeting of the minds to have an oral agreement. Clearly, that didn’t happen.
Misunderstanding between an asst coach and a player? Probably happens every day in practice.
The UNLV paid it obligations. The player never received any money. Both of these statements could be true. It’s possible UNLV paid the agent and the agent never paid the player or his family.
College Football Programs were never meant to be profit centers. They subsidize all the other athletic programs. They provide entertainment, employment for staff and administrators, a mechanism to solicit donations from boosters, facility improvements, and a measure of pride to students, alumni, staff, and interested fans. Breaking even is okay. Profitability is a bonus, but not a necessity.
The NIL and transfer portal issues clearly needs some guard rails. That doesn’t mean the system can’t or doesn’t work. It has to be a cooperative effort between the collectives, and the schools, all within the framework of the laws and guidelines that exist.
Some schools hit top speed out of the gate, including a few SEC schools, and stubbed their toes. Adding a “stub hub” like fee to ticket prices seems like a bad idea.
The system will sort itself out.
Posted on 9/26/24 at 10:03 pm to Ptins944
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Misunderstanding between an asst coach and a player? Probably happens every day in practice.
Fact.
What an assistant coach tells a player is not automatically a binding legal contract.
Posted on 9/26/24 at 10:20 pm to Tuscaloosa
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Imagine being such a gaping pussy that you quit on your team in the middle of the season because you got your fee-fees hurt.
If it’s about not getting money he was told he would get it’s much more than getting your fee-fees hurt
I get that NIL is killing or has killed college football but that doesn’t mean schools should go back on what they promised kids. Not the kids’ fault. Follow through with commitments.
Posted on 9/26/24 at 10:26 pm to r0cky1
Florida has a lawsuit against their NIL for failure to fulfill contractanother reason Kiffin isn't going to Florida, besides they don't have a president their AD is an idiot and they have gone through so many coaches it's a different era now. The only job I could see Kiffin taking is a top 5 job USC, Texas, Bama, Ohio State. Maybe Oregon,other than those schools no reason to leave
Posted on 9/26/24 at 10:37 pm to captdalton
He should be very fortunate and blessed that he is playing any college football and UNLV took a chance on him.
Posted on 9/27/24 at 6:31 am to dchog
This guys “agent” that keeps saying he was offered a minimum of 100K is lying his arse off. On what planet are deals like this struck by announcing a minimum that they will pay? This is such a shitshow haha
Posted on 9/27/24 at 6:37 am to lefty08
There's a lot of bullshite smell coming from this story.
A middling FCS QB in a 6 figure bidding war? Not one bit of it makes sense. What NIL is paying that kind of money for a kid whose best tape is a win over Yale?
A middling FCS QB in a 6 figure bidding war? Not one bit of it makes sense. What NIL is paying that kind of money for a kid whose best tape is a win over Yale?
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