
Marcusaureliussayshi
Favorite team: | Ole Miss ![]() |
Location: | Alaska |
Biography: | Semi retired Ex military |
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Registered on: | 7/9/2019 |
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re: Make no mistake, S. Carolina, OM, and Alabama not getting in is a huge blow to the SEC
Posted by Marcusaureliussayshi on 12/8/24 at 1:04 pm
Top 10 teams don’t lose 3 games. If the CFP had allowed Alabama, Ole Miss or South Carolina, then they would have diluted the game.
Right now I think the SEC is in a similar situation as the Big 10 was back in 2006-2008. I remember seeing so many Big 10 posts bragging about the strength of their conference and how a 2 loss LSU was going to get embarrassed. I also remembered seeing the SEC dominate the bowl season with many of the top SEC teams saying that they played tougher games in conference. That was where the conference pride thing really took off. The SEC teams knew they were already facing the best teams in conference and proved it in the bowl games afterwards.
We just need for our three representatives to prove the SEC deserves those three in the national playoffs, and our bowl game representatives to prove their status on the football fields. That is how you shut down the other conference fans. They can no-longer claim it’s mysterious bagmen and cheating boosters.
Right now I think the SEC is in a similar situation as the Big 10 was back in 2006-2008. I remember seeing so many Big 10 posts bragging about the strength of their conference and how a 2 loss LSU was going to get embarrassed. I also remembered seeing the SEC dominate the bowl season with many of the top SEC teams saying that they played tougher games in conference. That was where the conference pride thing really took off. The SEC teams knew they were already facing the best teams in conference and proved it in the bowl games afterwards.
We just need for our three representatives to prove the SEC deserves those three in the national playoffs, and our bowl game representatives to prove their status on the football fields. That is how you shut down the other conference fans. They can no-longer claim it’s mysterious bagmen and cheating boosters.
re: I’m hoping for a bunch of bowl opt outs
Posted by Marcusaureliussayshi on 12/3/24 at 8:38 am
It gives the coaches a chance to evaluate bench talent against real game competition. Maybe a practice’warrior’ doesn’t look so hot under game lights, and maybe a practice dud looks like a star when the game film is rolling.
re: OU played 5 of top 15, 6 of top 22 and 7 of top 31 teams
Posted by Marcusaureliussayshi on 12/3/24 at 8:33 am
You are assuming that your current 6 teams ranked in the top (31??? lol) will stay ranked after playoffs and bowl season. You know what they say about when you assUME? There are still a few games waiting for teams that have high draft players who might sit out rather than risk injuries, or a coach who ( for whatever reason), sucks in post season, or key players who might get injured in practice or in the game. I still say your analysis is flawed because you are trying to compare end of season rankings to OUs season in process.
I already showed you 6 ranked (top 25) sec teams that Ole Miss played, plus a 4th ranked FSU game in the kickoff classic in the 2016 season. OUs schedule this season, while brutal, is not different than any other’s teams experience in the SEC.
Edited to correct sp and add 2016 season
I already showed you 6 ranked (top 25) sec teams that Ole Miss played, plus a 4th ranked FSU game in the kickoff classic in the 2016 season. OUs schedule this season, while brutal, is not different than any other’s teams experience in the SEC.
Edited to correct sp and add 2016 season
re: OU played 5 of top 15, 6 of top 22 and 7 of top 31 teams
Posted by Marcusaureliussayshi on 12/2/24 at 3:39 pm
You are missing the point of SEC dominance. When the league starts manipulating the schedules to make it easier for more members to qualify for the playoffs, it makes the whole league weak. Iron sharpens iron, and steel, steel. Coaches are going to recruit harder, practice harder, and scheme better, or they won’t be coaching here very long.
re: OU played 5 of top 15, 6 of top 22 and 7 of top 31 teams
Posted by Marcusaureliussayshi on 12/2/24 at 10:30 am
Again you are comparing end of year rankings to season in progress ratings. A lot could happen to your rankings after playoffs and bowl games are taken into consideration.
re: OU played 5 of top 15, 6 of top 22 and 7 of top 31 teams
Posted by Marcusaureliussayshi on 12/2/24 at 8:17 am
You moved the goal posts on your third entry to this post. The title and your first two entries didn’t say anything about end of conference play. Which is a dumb metric since you are trying to compare current rankings to final rank (after all playoffs and bowl games are played.)
re: OU played 5 of top 15, 6 of top 22 and 7 of top 31 teams
Posted by Marcusaureliussayshi on 12/2/24 at 8:12 am
Your analysis is flawed. You are asking us to compare apples to oranges. An arbitrary (your) ranking before the end of the season to final rankings after all playoffs and bowl games are played.
re: OU played 5 of top 15, 6 of top 22 and 7 of top 31 teams
Posted by Marcusaureliussayshi on 12/2/24 at 7:58 am
quote:
So you only played 4 ranked SEC teams. Again, no team in SEC has ever played 6 top 25 ranked teams (ranked after conf play was over, not at the time). You showed me 4
You went from nobody has ever played a schedule like OK, to no team in the SEC has ever played 6 top 25 ranked teams ( ranked after conf play was over) to has to be SEC ranked teams after conf play was over…. You moved the goal posts. And you’re not repping OK very well crying about how hard it was to be a fan after your team played this schedule. Face it. OK is in the big leagues now and there is no crying in football.
re: OU played 5 of top 15, 6 of top 22 and 7 of top 31 teams
Posted by Marcusaureliussayshi on 12/2/24 at 12:43 am
The facts are almost every team in the SEC will have one of these types of years. If someone from each team was willing to do a deep dive, over the past 20 years I believe anyone could pull up similar tough schedules. That is why depth counts as much or more than elite talent. When you go to war with 7 of your fellow conference members each year, you need the jimmies and the joes and their second and third string teammates to be competitive.
2016 sucked for Ole Miss as well. Starting the kickoff classic with #4 FSU and blowing them up in the first half… then watching them pull away in the second was a demoralizing portent of the rest of the season. Opening SEC play with another close loss to #4 Alabama in which we led most of the game … only to see us wear out in the 4th and lose in a close one really drives home the lesson that lack of depth kills.
2016 sucked for Ole Miss as well. Starting the kickoff classic with #4 FSU and blowing them up in the first half… then watching them pull away in the second was a demoralizing portent of the rest of the season. Opening SEC play with another close loss to #4 Alabama in which we led most of the game … only to see us wear out in the 4th and lose in a close one really drives home the lesson that lack of depth kills.
re: OU played 5 of top 15, 6 of top 22 and 7 of top 31 teams
Posted by Marcusaureliussayshi on 12/2/24 at 12:19 am
2016… I even linked to my source.
Rankings were when played… since you are referencing this year when there is NO FINAL RANKINGS YET… seems most appropriate. Unless you are going to “move the goal posts”.
Rankings were when played… since you are referencing this year when there is NO FINAL RANKINGS YET… seems most appropriate. Unless you are going to “move the goal posts”.
re: OU played 5 of top 15, 6 of top 22 and 7 of top 31 teams
Posted by Marcusaureliussayshi on 12/2/24 at 12:02 am
I stated facts and thats all it was, facts. Not one poster can provide any evidence of having played 6 top 25 SEC teams in 1 season.
Pretty sure I already brought the receipts…
Regular Season
DATE OPPONENT RESULT W-L (CONF) HI PASS HI RUSH HI REC
Mon, 9/5
vs
FSU
4 FSU * Out of conference
L45-34 0-1 (0-0) Kelly 313 Judd 44 Engram 121
Sat, 9/10
vs
WOF
WOF
W38-13 1-1 (0-0) Kelly 219 Judd 64 Pack 46
Sat, 9/17
vs
ALA
1 ALA. 1- ONE
L48-43 1-2 (0-1) Kelly 421 Judd 45 Engram 138
Sat, 9/24
vs
UGA
12 UGA 2- TWO
W45-14 2-2 (1-1) Kelly 282 Kelly 53 Engram 95
Sat, 10/1
vs
MEM
MEM
W48-28 3-2 (1-1) Kelly 361 Brazley 124 Stringfellow 94
Sat, 10/15
@
ARK
22 ARK 3- THREE
L34-30 3-3 (1-2) Kelly 253 Kelly 89 Engram 111
Sat, 10/22
@
LSU
25 LSU 4- FOUR
L38-21 3-4 (1-3) Kelly 218 Kelly 56 Stringfellow 92
Sat, 10/29
vs
AUB
15 AUB 5- FIVE
L40-29 3-5 (1-4) Kelly 465 Kelly 40 Engram 95
Sat, 11/5
vs
GASO
GASO
W37-27 4-5 (1-4) Kelly 226 Judd 139 Engram 75
Sat, 11/12
@
TA&M
8 TA&M 6- SIX
W29-28 5-5 (2-4) Patterson 338 Judd 100 Brown 77
Sat, 11/19
@
VAN
VAN
L38-17 5-6 (2-5) Patterson 222 Judd 63 Engram 102
Sat, 11/26
vs
MSST
MSST
L55-20 5-7 (2-6) Patterson 320 Judd 107 Stringfellow 97
Pretty sure I already brought the receipts…
Regular Season
DATE OPPONENT RESULT W-L (CONF) HI PASS HI RUSH HI REC
Mon, 9/5
vs
FSU
4 FSU * Out of conference
L45-34 0-1 (0-0) Kelly 313 Judd 44 Engram 121
Sat, 9/10
vs
WOF
WOF
W38-13 1-1 (0-0) Kelly 219 Judd 64 Pack 46
Sat, 9/17
vs
ALA
1 ALA. 1- ONE
L48-43 1-2 (0-1) Kelly 421 Judd 45 Engram 138
Sat, 9/24
vs
UGA
12 UGA 2- TWO
W45-14 2-2 (1-1) Kelly 282 Kelly 53 Engram 95
Sat, 10/1
vs
MEM
MEM
W48-28 3-2 (1-1) Kelly 361 Brazley 124 Stringfellow 94
Sat, 10/15
@
ARK
22 ARK 3- THREE
L34-30 3-3 (1-2) Kelly 253 Kelly 89 Engram 111
Sat, 10/22
@
LSU
25 LSU 4- FOUR
L38-21 3-4 (1-3) Kelly 218 Kelly 56 Stringfellow 92
Sat, 10/29
vs
AUB
15 AUB 5- FIVE
L40-29 3-5 (1-4) Kelly 465 Kelly 40 Engram 95
Sat, 11/5
vs
GASO
GASO
W37-27 4-5 (1-4) Kelly 226 Judd 139 Engram 75
Sat, 11/12
@
TA&M
8 TA&M 6- SIX
W29-28 5-5 (2-4) Patterson 338 Judd 100 Brown 77
Sat, 11/19
@
VAN
VAN
L38-17 5-6 (2-5) Patterson 222 Judd 63 Engram 102
Sat, 11/26
vs
MSST
MSST
L55-20 5-7 (2-6) Patterson 320 Judd 107 Stringfellow 97
re: OU played 5 of top 15, 6 of top 22 and 7 of top 31 teams
Posted by Marcusaureliussayshi on 12/1/24 at 6:04 pm
2016 Ole Miss 6 top 25 in conference plus (at the time (4th ranked) FSU in the kick-off classic.
2014 5 top 25 ranked conference teams plus ranked Boise State in the kickoff classic plus 6 ranked Texas Tech in Cotton Bowl
2015 5 top 25 in conference plus 8 ranked Ok st in sugar Bowl
2017 4 top 25 in conference
2018 3 top 25 in conference
2019 3 top 25 in conference plus 24 ranked Cal
2020 4 top 25 in conference plus 11 ranked Indiana-Outback Bowl
2021 4 top 25 in conference plus Baylor in Sugar Bowl
2022 2 top 25 in conference
2023 3 top 25 in conference plus 23 ranked Tulane and 6 ranked Penn State in Peach Bowl
2024 2 top 25 in conference plus???
How you like them apples?
Edited to add link to ESPN website for info and 2014/2015 bowl info.
LINK
2014 5 top 25 ranked conference teams plus ranked Boise State in the kickoff classic plus 6 ranked Texas Tech in Cotton Bowl
2015 5 top 25 in conference plus 8 ranked Ok st in sugar Bowl
2017 4 top 25 in conference
2018 3 top 25 in conference
2019 3 top 25 in conference plus 24 ranked Cal
2020 4 top 25 in conference plus 11 ranked Indiana-Outback Bowl
2021 4 top 25 in conference plus Baylor in Sugar Bowl
2022 2 top 25 in conference
2023 3 top 25 in conference plus 23 ranked Tulane and 6 ranked Penn State in Peach Bowl
2024 2 top 25 in conference plus???
How you like them apples?
Edited to add link to ESPN website for info and 2014/2015 bowl info.
LINK
re: Georgia will lose to OM
Posted by Marcusaureliussayshi on 11/4/24 at 7:53 am
It shows that Kirby Smart and Nick Saban were probably using fake injuries to slow down HUNH offenses way before Kiffin did so. It is hypocritical for them to complain now about Kiffin doing what they taught him.
re: Georgia will lose to OM
Posted by Marcusaureliussayshi on 11/3/24 at 11:30 pm
Here are two news articles about Saban and Smart in 2014. Looks like they clearly manipulated the fake injury method way before Kiffin did. Maybe Kirby Smart taught Kiffin how best to utilize this tactic when they both were on Saban’s staff.
LINK
“ We do a good job of telling our players how they need to play and how to stop what they do, and when you play against a no-huddle team, you can't do as good a job of that."
“The Rebels ran only three plays (all in the same possession during the 3rd quarter) within 10 seconds, and a fourth if you count the officials slowing down their tempo by not setting the ball quickly enough. They were able to produce 9 and 11 yards on the first two "warp speed" plays; however, defensive lineman Brandon Ivory went down with an injury after the 11 yard gain (he returned to the game soon after).”
Read More: How Has Nick Saban Defended the HUNH on the Field? | LINK
LINK
“ We do a good job of telling our players how they need to play and how to stop what they do, and when you play against a no-huddle team, you can't do as good a job of that."
“The Rebels ran only three plays (all in the same possession during the 3rd quarter) within 10 seconds, and a fourth if you count the officials slowing down their tempo by not setting the ball quickly enough. They were able to produce 9 and 11 yards on the first two "warp speed" plays; however, defensive lineman Brandon Ivory went down with an injury after the 11 yard gain (he returned to the game soon after).”
Read More: How Has Nick Saban Defended the HUNH on the Field? | LINK
re: NEW RULES for Faking Injuries in the SEC
Posted by Marcusaureliussayshi on 11/3/24 at 12:21 pm
Y’all shouldn’t be starting something then complaining when someone uses your tactics to beat you. Look up the origin of the ‘Saban’ rule that allows defensive substitutions. Smart and Saban used fake injuries to slow down HUNH offenses that were exploiting the penchant for creating mismatches by situational substitutions.
re: Georgia will lose to OM
Posted by Marcusaureliussayshi on 11/3/24 at 12:14 pm
I seem to recall a 44-23 thrashing at DK Royal Stadium in 2013. I guess your Texas team didn’t have a pulse either…
re: Georgia will lose to OM
Posted by Marcusaureliussayshi on 11/3/24 at 11:51 am
But Smart and Saban DID use it as a tactic to slow down HUNH offenses so they could disrupt the flow and make substitutions. In fact the rule that allows defensive substitutions was called the ‘Saban’ rule. Y’all shouldn’t get so hypocritical and pointing at Kiffin when you first created the problem that Kiffin warned about.
re: Georgia will lose to OM
Posted by Marcusaureliussayshi on 11/3/24 at 11:35 am
They shouldn’t start something and then complain when someone else uses it against them… jus sayin.
re: Georgia will lose to OM
Posted by Marcusaureliussayshi on 11/3/24 at 11:29 am
Kirby Smart and Nick Saban perfected the fake injuries to slow down HUNH of fences back in 2012…
“Another problem that arose from this game was the matter of injuries. There's no way to know for certain whether or not the injuries are legitimate, so we must make a conservative assumption. Damion Square went down to the ground after a long pass play from the Aggies, who were lining up to run a play as soon as the officials set the ball. Determining his level of injury is impossible as an outsider looking in, but it can't be argued that Square's possibly coincidental injury slowed down the Aggie offense to allow Nick Saban and Kirby Smart time to substitute on defense”
Read More: How Has Nick Saban Defended the HUNH on the Field? | LINK
“Another problem that arose from this game was the matter of injuries. There's no way to know for certain whether or not the injuries are legitimate, so we must make a conservative assumption. Damion Square went down to the ground after a long pass play from the Aggies, who were lining up to run a play as soon as the officials set the ball. Determining his level of injury is impossible as an outsider looking in, but it can't be argued that Square's possibly coincidental injury slowed down the Aggie offense to allow Nick Saban and Kirby Smart time to substitute on defense”
Read More: How Has Nick Saban Defended the HUNH on the Field? | LINK
re: NEW RULES for Faking Injuries in the SEC
Posted by Marcusaureliussayshi on 11/3/24 at 11:25 am
Kirby Smart and Nick Saban first started the fake injuries back in 2012… or earlier. I found an old reference to injuries to slow down a HUHN offense..
“Another problem that arose from this game was the matter of injuries. There's no way to know for certain whether or not the injuries are legitimate, so we must make a conservative assumption. Damion Square went down to the ground after a long pass play from the Aggies, who were lining up to run a play as soon as the officials set the ball. Determining his level of injury is impossible as an outsider looking in, but it can't be argued that Square's possibly coincidental injury slowed down the Aggie offense to allow Nick Saban and Kirby Smart time to substitute on defense”
Read More: How Has Nick Saban Defended the HUNH on the Field? | LINK
“Another problem that arose from this game was the matter of injuries. There's no way to know for certain whether or not the injuries are legitimate, so we must make a conservative assumption. Damion Square went down to the ground after a long pass play from the Aggies, who were lining up to run a play as soon as the officials set the ball. Determining his level of injury is impossible as an outsider looking in, but it can't be argued that Square's possibly coincidental injury slowed down the Aggie offense to allow Nick Saban and Kirby Smart time to substitute on defense”
Read More: How Has Nick Saban Defended the HUNH on the Field? | LINK
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