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Posted on 1/3/25 at 8:56 am to Legionfield
I think Kirby is still pretty handily the #1 coach in CFB as far as getting his guys to play tough, develop, etc. What's more interesting is the program model itself.
NCAA BBall went through a period where one & dones were really big. Teams eventually adjusted, and now the best rosters are built very different from late 2000s Kentucky & Duke.
Likewise, we all know the old model of stacking talent is going away. And it's hard to play the tough, physical football Saban & Kirby are known for with reduced depth. But just buying portal guys doesn't seem to be a much, if any, better way of getting to the promised land.
NCAA BBall went through a period where one & dones were really big. Teams eventually adjusted, and now the best rosters are built very different from late 2000s Kentucky & Duke.
Likewise, we all know the old model of stacking talent is going away. And it's hard to play the tough, physical football Saban & Kirby are known for with reduced depth. But just buying portal guys doesn't seem to be a much, if any, better way of getting to the promised land.
Posted on 1/3/25 at 9:01 am to HammerSlammer
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50% in DUIs over 4 years. I’ll take it.
FIFY
Posted on 1/3/25 at 9:36 am to labamafan
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Georgias dynasty never stood a chance
Where get confused as UGA never had a dynasty they had a good run just like Clemson
Posted on 1/3/25 at 9:39 am to Bigdawgb
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I think Kirby is still pretty handily the #1 coach in CFB as far as getting his guys to play tough, develop, etc.
You were in close games or lost to less talented teams all year.
If he were developing these guys, why has the team gotten worse every year since those really good 2021 and 2022 teams?
Kirby is an insane recruiter and a very good defensive coach. That doesn't make him automatically good at everything else too.
Posted on 1/3/25 at 9:48 am to VolSquatch
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You were in close games or lost to less talented teams all year.
If he were developing these guys, why has the team gotten worse every year since those really good 2021 and 2022 teams?
Idk man maybe we lost Dan Lanning & Fran Brown & Will Muschamp & Todd Monken
Kirby is one man, not the entire coaching staff. He's been consistently great since day 1, it's unreasonable to think he forgot how to coach in a year.
Posted on 1/3/25 at 9:53 am to Legionfield
I think Kirby was on track to make a serious run at Saban's record but portal and NIL have changed the game completely. Gonna be a lot harder to build a dynasty going forward.
Posted on 1/3/25 at 9:54 am to Bigdawgb
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it's unreasonable to think he forgot how to coach in a year.
Not saying that, I'm saying he isn't as good of a coach as you think he is.
Could he still be the best in CFB? Sure. But a lot of the big programs in the sport have young and unproven coaches. 3 of the 4 left in the playoff don't have super long histories as head coaches, and Franklin took over a mess at Penn State.
Posted on 1/3/25 at 11:43 am to VolSquatch
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Not saying that, I'm saying he isn't as good of a coach as you think he is.
Could he still be the best in CFB? Sure. But a lot of the big programs in the sport have young and unproven coaches. 3 of the 4 left in the playoff don't have super long histories as head coaches, and Franklin took over a mess at Penn State.
James Franklin has been at Penn State longer than Kirby's been at UGA. He had a mess to clean up when he got there in 2014.
As far as the other head coaches, Sark already lost twice. I could see Dan Lanning + Oregon $$$ being better than Kirby, but not Dan Lanning by himself for instance. Hard to say on OSU but they have a bigger pocketbook than pretty much anyone and they have a lot of talented coaching. Freeman coached a great game, but it's hard to say ND and their 244 yds of offense looked like a better team yesterday, other than at blind side blocking.
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Posted on 1/3/25 at 11:45 am to Legionfield
9-4
Posted on 1/3/25 at 11:46 am to TideWarrior
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UGA never had a dynasty they had a good run just like Clemson
1000%
Posted on 1/3/25 at 1:04 pm to Marktastic86
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Bama is top 10 in NIL
Don’t think you can properly assess longevity based on 1 year. See Ole Miss.
Posted on 1/3/25 at 1:16 pm to Bigdawgb
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James Franklin has been at Penn State longer than Kirby's been at UGA. He had a mess to clean up when he got there in 2014.
As far as the other head coaches, Sark already lost twice. I could see Dan Lanning + Oregon $$$ being better than Kirby, but not Dan Lanning by himself for instance. Hard to say on OSU but they have a bigger pocketbook than pretty much anyone and they have a lot of talented coaching. Freeman coached a great game, but it's hard to say ND and their 244 yds of offense looked like a better team yesterday, other than at blind side blocking.
Who would have been the top dog a few years ago had Saban retired earlier? Dabo Swinney. Now look at him. Is anyone even arguing him as a top 5 head coach right now?
You're defining Kirby off the pinnacle of his career. What did he do before that? Nearly lost to Nicholls State, couldn't beat Alabama. Even at the pinnacle they had to get a do-over one year and didn't play them the next. Now what has he done after? There has been a decline each year since.
And he can still be the best coach in CFB and not be as good as you think he is. I think he is the best coach currently, but my point earlier was that its a very weak crop to choose from right now. He is kind of the best by default in a way.
Posted on 1/3/25 at 1:17 pm to VolSquatch
Saban lost to ULM..... Freeman NIU, .....all the great ones have losses that can be pointed out
Posted on 1/3/25 at 1:17 pm to Legionfield
I don’t think UGA is in decline. It’s just becoming more and more difficult win championships in college football, and it’s going to be really hard to string together runs of multiple championships.
Posted on 1/3/25 at 1:31 pm to armtackledawg
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Misery loves company
You got that right.
Posted on 1/3/25 at 1:31 pm to VolSquatch
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You're defining Kirby off the pinnacle of his career. What did he do before that?
In the years surrounding the back to back pinnacle, uga won the 2017 seccg and the 2024 seccg. Thats why he is the best currently. Thats a lot of silverware.
Posted on 1/3/25 at 1:36 pm to lewis and herschel
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Saban lost to ULM..... Freeman NIU, .....all the great ones have losses that can be pointed out
And they are still great. well, Freeman may be great. I just don't think he is as great as Georgia fans do. There is a non-zero chance he could end up like Dabo (or worse) if he doesn't fix the offense.
Posted on 1/3/25 at 1:46 pm to VolSquatch
Whatever problems he has, it's not beating UTs arse.
You frickers worship a coach who is on par with Sunbelt Billy
You frickers worship a coach who is on par with Sunbelt Billy
Posted on 1/3/25 at 2:41 pm to lewis and herschel
There it is, deflecting to another point and talking about our coach (who I have criticized on here).
Typical Dawg move.
1) get mad
2 Change the argument
Typical Dawg move.
1) get mad
2 Change the argument
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