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re: UGA fans; would you trade Kirby and your current trajectory...

Posted on 2/13/18 at 10:42 am to
Posted by RedPants
GA
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 2/13/18 at 10:42 am to
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Just become an Alabama fan?

It's not that simple when you actually went to the school of which you're a fan.
Posted by jvilletiger25
jacksonville, fl
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 2/13/18 at 11:14 am to
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If Cam Newton doesn't toss a laptop out of a building he likely wins a title at Florida. Don't a be a dumbass. You got lucky he was available.


And thUGA got lucky Eason got hurt last year, didn't have many injuries, played a weak schedule, had a redo game after getting arse raped by Auburn, etc. Don't be dumbass. Every team that plays for a title gets lucky.

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Stidham lost 4 games and Nick Marshall was another kid you lucked into that you didn't initially land because Georgia in standard Richt fashion let him walk.


I just named them because you said Auburn couldn't beat Bama without Cam Newton. False

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It's 2018 - What happened 7/8 years ago is growing more irrelevant by the day. We just played for a title. The Auburn plan not looking too good but hey- at least you got Gus locked up.


Yeah. 7 and 4 years ago is a lot more relevant than what happened 38 years ago though. And Gus played for a title his first year. He didn't lose to Vandy, etc. In the games Kirby wasn't overly talented against, he got his shite pushed in this past year. Might want to cool your jets.
Posted by Dawgsontop34
Member since Jun 2014
42523 posts
Posted on 2/13/18 at 11:39 am to
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. A title five years ago may as well be 20 years ago, and if Richt is here until he retires Kirby goes to one of our rivals. That would be a disaster.



A disaster? You realize Richt was one of the best two coaches we’ve ever had, right? I’m excited about the trajectory of our program competing year in and year out, but one National Title along with putting ourselves in the thick of things every few years isn’t exactly what I’d call a disaster.
Posted by Razor Dawg
Decatur
Member since Dec 2017
707 posts
Posted on 2/13/18 at 11:50 am to
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And thUGA got lucky Eason got hurt last year,


So THIS is the same thing as Cam falling into your lap?And we were "lucky" we had recruited and signed a 5 star freshman who was ready to step in?


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Yeah. 7 and 4 years ago is a lot more relevant than what happened 38 years ago


The only people who talk about 38 years ago are AU,UF and Bama fans on message boards.If you want to compare what happened 4 years ago to what happened last year I'll take that all day long.Gus has flatlined since year 1...not so much for Kirby.
Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
25876 posts
Posted on 2/13/18 at 11:53 am to
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A disaster? You realize Richt was one of the best two coaches we’ve ever had, right? I’m excited about the trajectory of our program competing year in and year out, but one National Title along with putting ourselves in the thick of things every few years isn’t exactly what I’d call a disaster.

Kirby Smart being in charge of a major program within striking distance of Georgia would have crippled UGA's already average in-state recruiting effort under Richt, so it would have been a disaster in that sense.
Posted by fibonaccisquared
The mystical waters of the Hooch
Member since Dec 2011
16898 posts
Posted on 2/13/18 at 11:56 am to
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In the games Kirby wasn't overly talented against, he got his shite pushed in this past year. Might want to cool your jets.



OT in the championship, SECCG, Rose Bowl

Bama more talented than UGA, Auburn similar talent level to UGA, Oklahoma slightly lower talent than UGA... 3 games where we weren't "overly talented against" the opponent, where no definition of "getting his shite pushed in" in the internet parlance would apply. We lost one game that could be described that way... on the road after a compounding of errors... Auburn played their best, UGA played their worst... that's all it takes for a game to get to blowout status.

If you want to play the "I'm just correcting incorrect commentary" game, at least try and pretend to do it objectively. This just reeks of jealousy. There are good Auburn posters, you just don't seem to be one of them.

ETA: forgot to include Notre Dame as well...
This post was edited on 2/13/18 at 12:10 pm
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
86467 posts
Posted on 2/13/18 at 11:56 am to
Even if this scenario happens and we do win a title in '12 with richt, I'm not certain he's still not gone at this point. Granted, our recruiting wouldn't be exactly the same (I'm sure we would have gotten some more guys that we missed, and lost some guys that we've gotten) but assumign all things are relatively equal, I could see him being let go towards the end. We were doomed in '13 once we got all those injuries, and I'm not sure 1 extra good recruit would have changed that. 2014 we won 10 games but never made national noise. 15 we were probably the worst 10 win team in history. Even if richt is still here in '16, I doubt we would have fared a ton better. Definitely would beat vandy, potentially tennessee, still likely lose to OM/UF/tech.
Posted by fibonaccisquared
The mystical waters of the Hooch
Member since Dec 2011
16898 posts
Posted on 2/13/18 at 12:07 pm to
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Definitely would beat vandy, potentially tennessee, still likely lose to OM/UF/tech.

Richt probably doesn't lose that Tech game... we had a comfortable lead and it was Kirby in year 1 vs PJ offense... we made some dumb mistakes that I think Richt would have known how to avoid (he had his own brand of dumbfrickery in that matchup every once in a while of course). Agree that we probably get smoked by OM on the road, and the UF game likely doesn't go any better.

Not sure I see a scenario where UGA would have been able to pull the trigger at the end of 16 though if Richt had won a natty in 12, and just completed 3 straight 10 win seasons (14, 15, 16) - regardless of the manner in which it was done. We likely are encouraging him to step down in 2018/2019 timeframe... meanwhile, Kirby is potentially strengthening an East team's roster (South Carolina or possibly Tennessee if Butch had been fired a year sooner without the Dobbnail boot play).

Wonky hypothetical for sure, but on the surface, I'd say we *look* to be better in 2018 going forward than we would have looked in 2013 going forward... particularly having hindsight on how those years went and knowing that one win/loss likely doesn't dramatically change the makeup of the immediately subsequent teams.
Posted by Dawgsontop34
Member since Jun 2014
42523 posts
Posted on 2/13/18 at 12:09 pm to
Agree with a lot of that. When people ask, what would have happened if we didn't fire Mark in 2015, the easy answer is we would have fired him in 2016. Richt would have lost to Treon Harris x2, and Luke Del Rio three straight seasons. That gets you fired.

So we would have just been one more season behind the eight ball with Kirby developing relationships with recruits and learning how to be a head coach. Glad we made the decision when we did.
Posted by cribbsjy
Member since Jul 2013
251 posts
Posted on 2/13/18 at 12:14 pm to
Yes.

Bird in the hand
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32855 posts
Posted on 2/13/18 at 1:06 pm to
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thUGA got lucky Eason got hurt last year, didn't have many injuries, played a weak schedule, had a redo game after getting arse raped by Auburn, etc. Don't be dumbass


Take your own advice here
Posted by Prettyboy Floyd
Pensacola, Florida
Member since Dec 2013
15660 posts
Posted on 2/13/18 at 1:08 pm to
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And thUGA got lucky


That's rich coming from AU

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played a weak schedule, had a redo game after getting arse raped by Auburn


Yeah it was weak, we got AU in the ship and not Bama.

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I just named them because you said Auburn couldn't beat Bama without Cam Newton. False


Bama has how many titles while playing AU every year....Like I said....your status in the West is relegated to all things Bama.

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Yeah. 7 and 4 years ago is a lot more relevant than what happened 38 years ago though. And Gus played for a title his first year. He didn't lose to Vandy, etc. In the games Kirby wasn't overly talented against, he got his shite pushed in this past year. Might want to cool your jets.


We played for a title this year and beat the brakes off AU in a championship setting to do it and followed it up with a number 1 recruiting class by every single service.

Gus lost 4 games and got an extension- like I said....The AU plan can suck a dick. That's not what we are after at UGA.
Posted by jvilletiger25
jacksonville, fl
Member since Jan 2014
17004 posts
Posted on 2/13/18 at 1:14 pm to
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That's not what we are after at UGA.


@ you guys thinking the lesbian P.E. coach is going to do any better than Richt did. Richt is a far superior coach.
Posted by Prettyboy Floyd
Pensacola, Florida
Member since Dec 2013
15660 posts
Posted on 2/13/18 at 1:16 pm to
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Richt is a far superior coach.



You can hope in one hand and shite in the other and see which fills up quicker.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32855 posts
Posted on 2/13/18 at 1:25 pm to
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When people ask, what would have happened if we didn't fire Mark in 2015, the easy answer is we would have fired him in 2016.


Probably, but a championship earns a coach more good will, more benefit of doubt, and we may have put up with his shite longer than we did
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32855 posts
Posted on 2/13/18 at 1:29 pm to
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thinking the lesbian P.E. coach is going to do any better than Richt did.



He already did.
Posted by Prettyboy Floyd
Pensacola, Florida
Member since Dec 2013
15660 posts
Posted on 2/13/18 at 1:36 pm to
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He already did.


Their feeble minds can't wrap their head around it.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32855 posts
Posted on 2/13/18 at 1:39 pm to
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Richt probably doesn't lose that Tech game... we had a comfortable lead and it was Kirby in year 1 vs PJ offense... we made some dumb mistakes that I think Richt would have known how to avoid (he had his own brand of dumbfrickery in that matchup every once in a while of course)


After the way we lost to them in 2014, I would put nothing past richt. Heck, richt wasn't far off from blowing a 13 PT lead vs a 3 win tech in 2015.
Posted by fibonaccisquared
The mystical waters of the Hooch
Member since Dec 2011
16898 posts
Posted on 2/13/18 at 2:12 pm to
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After the way we lost to them in 2014, I would put nothing past richt. Heck, richt wasn't far off from blowing a 13 PT lead vs a 3 win tech in 2015.


Sure... but if we're going with what is "most likely"... Richt probably wins that game. For all the "not far off" games that were out there, he went 13-2 against Tech... And in 2015, they may have only won 3 games, but they also lost 5 games by one possession. They weren't good, but if we're being honest, neither were we, particularly once Chubb was gone for the season.
Posted by Jake_LaMotta
Coral Gables
Member since Sep 2017
5700 posts
Posted on 2/13/18 at 2:18 pm to
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He already did.


Mark Richt:

Season One - 8-4 #22 finish
Season Two - 13-1 (won the Sugar Bowl) #3 finish
1-0 vs Alabama

Kirby Smart:

Season One - 8-5 (unranked)
Season Two - 13-2 (won Rose Bowl) #2 finish
0-1 vs Alabama

Richt has the better overall record.

Kirby hasn't done anything that Richt wasn't able to do. Just like Donnan wasn't able to do anything that Goff wasn't able to do. See the patter here with Georgia football? I do.
This post was edited on 2/13/18 at 2:29 pm
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