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re: Tx/OU move almost done, has been in works for 6 months. A&M “kept in the dark”

Posted on 7/23/21 at 9:29 am to
Posted by MillerLiteTime
Atlanta
Member since Aug 2018
2479 posts
Posted on 7/23/21 at 9:29 am to
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Yeah but keeping them in the dark about it is wrong. It's not how you build a healthy business relationships, much less a stable athletic conference.


Neither is aTm airing its grievances publicly and working behind the scenes to stop a deal the SEC has clearly already secured the votes to approve. The reason this conference has always stayed so strong is practically everything we do has been done unanimously publicly, even if we disagree privately.

aTm couldn't be trusted with advance notice which is why they were not afforded that respect.

I was a huge proponent of adding aTm and still want them in the conference, but this public temper tantrum they are throwing has made me lose a lot of respect for them. They look so weak when they could have looked strong and made Texas looks like the little brother begging for a seat at the table.
Posted by Diego Ricardo
Alabama
Member since Dec 2020
5827 posts
Posted on 7/23/21 at 9:29 am to
The SEC office may be able to act independent of the schools on these discussions until they needed to finalize the votes. This could be less trying to keep the Aggies out of it and more or less how it goes. It is easy for me to imagine that this week in Hoover that Sankey got the schools together and basically gave them a prospectus on the move. He asked for an informal up-down vote, the response was in the affirmative, and Aggy is upset about it.
Posted by Mr Sausage
Cat Spring, Texas
Member since Oct 2011
12707 posts
Posted on 7/23/21 at 9:30 am to
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Next we're going to find out it was Scott Woodward who masterminded this whole thing.


That would be something!
Posted by TAMU-93
Sachse, TX
Member since Oct 2012
894 posts
Posted on 7/23/21 at 9:31 am to
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After a century of dealing with aggy, Texas can attest it is best to treat them like mushrooms-
Keep them in the dark and feed them shite.


UT's backroom deals is why A&M is in the SEC and UT is begging to be in the SEC.
Posted by r2d2
Member since Dec 2006
6842 posts
Posted on 7/23/21 at 9:31 am to
This can’t be. A&M has more money than the Vatican and is a sleeping giant with unlimited potential.

All shite aside if true this is some shady shite and I would actually side with Aggie for once.
Posted by r'dx
Texas
Member since Mar 2012
251 posts
Posted on 7/23/21 at 9:31 am to
Maybe we were kept in the dark, but I'm skeptical of Bohls, he's a tu mouthpiece.

Either way, this only proves what we and Mizzo have been saying...Texas hasn't even joined yet and is already showing that their involvement will turn conference unity into ash.
Posted by Bobby Jimbo
Member since Jan 2020
727 posts
Posted on 7/23/21 at 9:31 am to
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everything we do has been done unanimously publicly

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aTm couldn't be trusted with advance notice which is why they were not afforded that respect.


Those two statements are conflicting. Do you disagree?
Posted by KaiserSoze99
Member since Aug 2011
31669 posts
Posted on 7/23/21 at 9:32 am to
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Well......judging by how they are acting right now, it is no wonder they were left in the dark. They leaked the news the minute they found out and are already working behind the scenes colluding with state politicians loyal to TTU, TCU, and Baylor to block it. The only way this was going to happen was to keep it quiet so the details could be worked out before the state politicians had time to kill it.

The votes were there, with or without aTm's approval, so the only reason to give them advance notice would be out of respect and trust that aTm wouldn't leak it for the good of the conference. Obviously the SEC could not trust aTm.

Sounds to me like aTm couldn't trust the rest of you twats, assuming any of this is true.
Posted by MillerLiteTime
Atlanta
Member since Aug 2018
2479 posts
Posted on 7/23/21 at 9:33 am to
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You're inverting the cause and effect here. They leaked it because they were left out of the conversations, not the other way around. That's a very big distinction.



I get what you are saying, but disagree. aTm was never going to let this happen quietly, regardless of whether we gave them advance notice. Advance notice would have only given them time to kill the deal in the state legislature. I have no problem with aTm advocating their position internally and privately, but we all know they were never going to do that. Their fan base is still so blinded by UT syndrome that they had to make a big public spectacle out of it to appease the boosters and fans.
Posted by TouchDownThere
Member since Aug 2013
188 posts
Posted on 7/23/21 at 9:34 am to
timeline of events and past history are why people are acting the way they are.

No sane person would just sit there and allow this to happen when they can say they are the only Texas School in the SEC. If Texas wasn't one of the hottest recruiting beds in the Country it wouldn't be a big deal.

Posted by bamameister
Right here, right now
Member since May 2016
13833 posts
Posted on 7/23/21 at 9:35 am to
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the A&M leadership was left out of discussions and wasn't told about it."


Are they trying to say BAMA, LSU, Auburn, Georgia was told about it? I seriously doubt that.
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 7/23/21 at 9:35 am to
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the A&M leadership was left out of discussions




Posted by jlovel7
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2014
21302 posts
Posted on 7/23/21 at 9:36 am to
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Yeah but keeping them in the dark about it is wrong. It's not how you build healthy business relationships, much less a stable athletic conference. It's just slimy.

There's no doubt that if OU and Texas join, it's to a much less stable conference to where we were a week ago.


Greg Sankey is not a good commissioner. If we add Texas and OU so be it. But it's not worth it if it destabilizes the SEC in any way.
Posted by TouchDownThere
Member since Aug 2013
188 posts
Posted on 7/23/21 at 9:37 am to
Really no need to include A&M on front end of conversations since everyone knows where leadership stands.

These are the only groups that matter in the discussion:
Head SEC officials/OU & TX/ESPN/Disney
Posted by Krampus
Member since Nov 2018
5207 posts
Posted on 7/23/21 at 9:38 am to
Backroom deals. Shady. This how it starts.

Welcome to being conference mates with Texas. This is just the beginning.
Posted by MillerLiteTime
Atlanta
Member since Aug 2018
2479 posts
Posted on 7/23/21 at 9:38 am to
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Either way, this only proves what we and Mizzo have been saying...Texas hasn't even joined yet and is already showing that their involvement will turn conference unity into ash.



Sorry, but for once in a generation, Texas is coming out of this looking good. They kept their mouth's shut, didn't involve politicians, didn't ask for any concessions, gave up their Longhorn Network contract, didn't demand any unwanted tag along schools come with them, etc.

The only school causing any discord in the SEC right now is aTm because you can't look past your hate of Texas to do what is best for the conference, and frankly, best for yourselves.
Posted by bamameister
Right here, right now
Member since May 2016
13833 posts
Posted on 7/23/21 at 9:40 am to
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Really no need to include A&M on front end of conversations since everyone knows where leadership stands.

These are the only groups that matter in the discussion:
Head SEC officials/OU & TX/ESPN/Disney


And that is exactly what happened to the rest of the SEC in these discussions. Otherwise, this stuff is out months ago.
Posted by dallastigers
Member since Dec 2003
5639 posts
Posted on 7/23/21 at 9:40 am to
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After a century of dealing with aggy, Texas can attest it is best to treat them like mushrooms- Keep them in the dark and feed them shite.


Shut up. Nobody wants Texas or likes shitty Texas fans. You are just riding in on Oklahoma’s coat-tails (and your coach on cocktails).

Texas needs in because you can’t even control your student body over your fight song much less what’s next. The new Texas will be nothing like the old as the alumni die out. This is last shot for Texas to keep old rich alumni happy and give more money.

Unfortunately it will divide the SEC and weaken another conference because that’s what Texas does.
This post was edited on 7/23/21 at 9:49 am
Posted by rebel2021
TX
Member since Apr 2021
5 posts
Posted on 7/23/21 at 9:41 am to
Hate UT so I can’t help but hate this move… Regardless I have to ask what happens to Longhorn network if they are allowed into the SEC? No way the SEC lets it continue on without taking a huge portion of its revenue right? Does that make this a money move?
Posted by r2d2
Member since Dec 2006
6842 posts
Posted on 7/23/21 at 9:41 am to
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Are they trying to say BAMA, LSU, Auburn, Georgia was told about it? I seriously doubt that.


Not on an official way for sure, but through back channels they could have gauged interest. The “excuse” could be they were assuming Aggie was a no so were just asking the others to see if this would fly.
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