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re: Two weeks to prepare for each other. Bama/ARK
Posted on 9/12/11 at 8:58 pm to stronghouse
Posted on 9/12/11 at 8:58 pm to stronghouse
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An entertaining thread but Bama must get by a "very, very, very good" North Texas team first.
(Saban's words in quotes, not mine
He actually said North Texas State.
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Posted on 9/12/11 at 8:59 pm to stronghouse
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Can someone please answer my question. Did Arkansas have a better chance of beating Alabama coming into last season's game compared to coming into this season's game?
Other than playing at your house this go around yes. Yall had the returning Heisman winner, coming off a Natty Title with the majority of that team back and were being talked about like you were the best team since Miami in 2002
ETA: Dareus/Julio jones/was Arenas still there? dont remember, but yall were suppossed to roll through unscathed last year.
ETAx2: And you weren't breaking in a new QB either.
So yes those are several reasons why I think we've got a better shot this year. Granted home field advantage is a huge factor, and should've won us the game last year, but we let it slip away.
This post was edited on 9/12/11 at 9:04 pm
Posted on 9/12/11 at 9:02 pm to stronghouse
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Alabama has proven for three years straight that they can have a good or elite defense. Arkansas has yet to prove anything defensively, yet every year people claim their defense has magically became good.
Last year Bama's defense got outplayed by USC and LSU, two teams that Arkansas shut down. Arkansas and Bama each gained 421 yards against each other.
Last year, your D was good enough for 4th in the West, ours was a BCS defense but didn't show up in the first half of the bowl game. We are better this year on defense, because like I've said, we've added better players and become more experienced.
This post was edited on 9/12/11 at 9:06 pm
Posted on 9/12/11 at 9:06 pm to Hubbhogg
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Other than playing at your house this go around yes. Yall had the returning Heisman winner, coming off a Natty Title with the majority of that team back and were being talked about like you were the best team since Miami in 2002
You sure that's all. I guess only having two starters returning on defense last season had nothing to do with anything. No Arenas was not on last years team. The only returning starter in the secondary was Mark Baron. Alabama had a true freshman in Milliner playing from day one.
Posted on 9/12/11 at 9:11 pm to Jon Ham
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Last year, your D was good enough for 4th in the West, ours was a BCS defense but didn't show up in the first half of the bowl game. We are better this year on defense, because like I've said, we've added better players and become more experienced.
Defense wasn't the reason Alabama was 10-3 in 2010. And it wasn't the reason Arkansas was 10-3.
Posted on 9/12/11 at 9:13 pm to Woopigsooie20
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Maybe so, but there is a difference between losing 1 First Rounder and losing 4 First Rounders.
We heard these same kind of arguments going into 2009, when Andre Smith, and much of the offense, moved on.
Posted on 9/12/11 at 9:15 pm to ALcapone
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I hope Bama slaughters Arkansas. Slaughters.
The Arky-hate strong in this one is. Understand why, I can. Not luck much lately have they with Piggies.
Posted on 9/12/11 at 9:18 pm to WonderWartHawg
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Not luck much lately have they with Piggies.
I'm thinking you attributed that quote to the wrong person, or have a different perspective on "luck", because is going for five straight against Arkansas.
Posted on 9/12/11 at 9:19 pm to stronghouse
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You sure that's all. I guess only having two starters returning on defense last season had nothing to do with anything. No Arenas was not on last years team. The only returning starter in the secondary was Mark Baron. Alabama had a true freshman in Milliner playing from day one.
Dude regardless, you had McElroy who hadn't lost a game since 1st grade or some shite, returning Heisman winner, Julio etc. I think your team last year was way morre talented on O. Im not saying we're going to win for sure, but if we get a lead again like we did last year you won't come back this time. And we're scoring over 20, I don't care if we have to throw it every single play we score 20+
Posted on 9/12/11 at 9:19 pm to stronghouse
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He actually said North Texas State.
yes he did
I forgot that
Posted on 9/12/11 at 9:20 pm to Hubbhogg
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And we're scoring over 20, I don't care if we have to throw it every single play we score 20+
Don't be surprised when you don't.
Posted on 9/12/11 at 9:22 pm to CapstoneGrad06
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Don't be surprised when you don't.
Bump this thread when it doesn't happen and I'll eat crow.
We score 3 TD's in that game. Yall might score 5, or 2 I don't know, but we score at least 3 Td's.
If we don't i'll be shocked.
Posted on 9/12/11 at 9:22 pm to CapstoneGrad06
I think it's going to be a good game. I do not think Arkansas will have success running in the middle against Alabama and that's where you have to establish some effectiveness to open Alabama up.
I also think being on the road will cause Arkansas to have alot of penalties that may help stall some drives and prevent Arkansas from getting any type of rythem going offensively. Arkansas already has picked up a few penalties at home running a vanilla offense against cupcake defenses. I do not expect that to change much on the road, against a very good defense, and trying to creat mismatches.
I also think being on the road will cause Arkansas to have alot of penalties that may help stall some drives and prevent Arkansas from getting any type of rythem going offensively. Arkansas already has picked up a few penalties at home running a vanilla offense against cupcake defenses. I do not expect that to change much on the road, against a very good defense, and trying to creat mismatches.
Posted on 9/12/11 at 9:24 pm to stronghouse
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I think it's going to be a good game. I do not think Arkansas will have success running in the middle against Alabama and that's where you have to establish some effectiveness to open Alabama up.
I agree that we need some run game to win, no doubt, but we'll score 3x's if it takes 60 passes to do it. We probably won't win the game with that many passes.
Posted on 9/12/11 at 9:26 pm to CapstoneGrad06
I'm out fellas. We've got another whole week after this to continue these talks.Posted on 9/12/11 at 9:29 pm to Hubbhogg
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Dude regardless, you had McElroy who hadn't lost a game since 1st grade or some shite, returning Heisman winner, Julio etc. I think your team last year was way morre talented on O. Im not saying we're going to win for sure, but if we get a lead again like we did last year you won't come back this time. And we're scoring over 20, I don't care if we have to throw it every single play we score 20+
So what. We scored more points on the road against Penn State this year than we did at home last season and we only had 50 more yards last season. We had more rushing yards aginst them this season. They actually have a better defense this season than they did last season with Mike Mauti back at linebacker and Devon Still having more experience.
Posted on 9/12/11 at 9:55 pm to stronghouse
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I'm thinking you attributed that quote to the wrong person, or have a different perspective on "luck", because is going for five straight against Arkansas.
By all appearances, that was posted by an LSU fan...
Posted on 9/12/11 at 10:13 pm to stronghouse
I think we have a better chance this season. 1) Mallett choked in the big games. 2) Our defense has improved because they have another year under their belts. Near the end of last season, you saw the defense shore up. Our front 7 are very good.
Bama has a great secondary. I think you guys have the capability to lock down at least 3 of our receivers.
Bama has a great secondary. I think you guys have the capability to lock down at least 3 of our receivers.
Posted on 9/12/11 at 10:42 pm to liferedeemed
Didn't McElroy throw 1 or 2 picks last year? AJ is gonna throw 8!
Posted on 9/13/11 at 1:24 am to ocelot4ark
I am not here to predict a winner but getting back to the original post. Alabama has the advantage on teaching technique probably but I don't think their coaching staff get any advantage at all on other teams when both have extra time to prepare. Advantage on that one point goes to Ark!
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