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re: Two weeks to prepare for each other. Bama/ARK

Posted on 9/12/11 at 5:29 pm to
Posted by CapstoneGrad06
Little Rock
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Posted on 9/12/11 at 5:29 pm to
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Let's face it, we did not run the ball worth a shite a year ago and gave the damn game away.

"Most" teams Alabama faces do not have the talent Arkansas has at the skill positions.

btw, we average 180.5 yds on the ground. Thats not against great Ds by any stretch, but if we can grind out just 100 or so yards, we should be fine.


And again, it's already obvious to me that Alabama can leave their corners on an island more in 2011. We couldn't do that last year. Being able to do that is big in Alabama's scheme.
Posted by ocelot4ark
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 9/12/11 at 5:31 pm to
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Unless Arkansas gets no running game and falls behind early. One dimensional teams have gotten themselves in to a lot of trouble in the past with Nick Saban's defenses. As long as the corners can be put on an island, which they couldn't do last year, and Alabama can shut down the running game to pretty much nothing, the defense could have a free-for-all on the QB.


That's fair. But it's also a similar problem bama could have. Arkansas will just stack the box, with an already strong front 7, and force bama to throw. Do you think that'll fair well with what you've seen thus far from the passing attack?
Posted by Hawgeye
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Posted on 9/12/11 at 5:31 pm to
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And again, it's already obvious to me that Alabama can leave their corners on an island more in 2011


I am not sure it is a smart move trying to go one on one with Wright, Adams, Childs, Hamilton.

Listen, I know you think Alabama's secondary is the 2nd coming and I agree they are good, but some things you just do not do because it is not smart.

Posted by CapstoneGrad06
Little Rock
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Posted on 9/12/11 at 5:33 pm to
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I am not sure it is a smart move trying to go one on one with Wright, Adams, Childs, Hamilton.

Listen, I know you think Alabama's secondary is the 2nd coming and I agree they are good, but some things you just do not do because it is not smart.



Saban is not dumb. I'm just saying that chances can be taken in 2011. Saban's scheme has a lot of risk/reward in it at times.
Posted by Hubbhogg
Fayettechill
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Posted on 9/12/11 at 5:35 pm to
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I am not sure it is a smart move trying to go one on one with Wright, Adams, Childs, Hamilton.

Listen, I know you think Alabama's secondary is the 2nd coming and I agree they are good, but some things you just do not do because it is not smart.


Saban knows better than to do that. They'll come out in base 4-3 man and he'll completely mix it up by the 3rd quarter.

I'll take my chances with Wilson and our guys against man any day of the week, but I highly doubt Saban plays more man than zone. If the play a lot of zone Wilson will throw at least 2 picks. I'm actually banking on him throwing two and hoping that we can overcome that with a couple turnovers of our own.
Posted by Hawgeye
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Posted on 9/12/11 at 5:35 pm to
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Saban is not dumb. I'm just saying that chances can be taken in 2011. Saban's scheme has a lot of risk/reward in it at times.


Not saying he is dumb, I just think it would be a dumb move.

That is a whole lot of risk with sticking your boys one on one with our WRs and knowing how clever Petrino is with crossing up patterns and then all of a sudden there is a RB all alone down the sideline.
Posted by CapstoneGrad06
Little Rock
Member since Nov 2008
72248 posts
Posted on 9/12/11 at 5:35 pm to
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That's fair. But it's also a similar problem bama could have. Arkansas will just stack the box, with an already strong front 7, and force bama to throw. Do you think that'll fair well with what you've seen thus far from the passing attack?



I think Alabama has been pretty basic on offense thus far. We haven't even used some formations that were staples the past two years. Plus, I think the offensive line is beginning to gel. A.J. moves well in the pocket too. The only two sacks thus far were when Sims was in. And save me the "it's Penn State and Kent State" lines. The OL gave up way too many QBHs and sacks in 2010. Even to the most unlikely of opponents. The pass protection already looks better to me.
Posted by LSUsuperfresh
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 9/12/11 at 5:36 pm to
31 - 17 Bama
Posted by ocelot4ark
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2009
12458 posts
Posted on 9/12/11 at 5:46 pm to
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I think Alabama has been pretty basic on offense thus far. We haven't even used some formations that were staples the past two years. Plus, I think the offensive line is beginning to gel. A.J. moves well in the pocket too. The only two sacks thus far were when Sims was in. And save me the "it's Penn State and Kent State" lines. The OL gave up way too many QBHs and sacks in 2010. Even to the most unlikely of opponents. The pass protection already looks better to me.


Very well could be. Same for Arkansas. We have played base O&D for 90% of our plays, i would guess. That makes me feel much more optimistic about the running game. I don't think it's as bad as many people are making it out to be. I just don't think they're using the right guy (Wingo). He's not the best option at this point and I would put him behind Curtis and Walker. If Dennis Johnson is healthy, our running game will keep bama at least a little honest.

The one thing I am fascinated by is the potential we have to use Joe Adams as a RB. He's done it a handful of times and it's almost always resulted in a good gain. He's our Percy Harvin changeup that I'd like to see thrown into the mix, especially for the biggest game of the year.
Posted by Hawgeye
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Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 9/12/11 at 5:53 pm to
Joe is the damn man. If he keeps having games like he has been, especially if he shows out against Alabama, he may end up on some Heisman watch lists.
Posted by GoHoGsGo06
Member since Nov 2006
5739 posts
Posted on 9/12/11 at 5:55 pm to
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ill be delighted to see Arkie finally quit playing middle schools and have to start going against REAL football teams. Gonna get that azz spanked. Rool Tide
I find it odd that LSU fans tend to want Bama to win over Arkansas.

Logic would dictate that in order to win the SECW, it'd probably be down to LSU or Bama; thus, you'd think LSU fans should cheer for Arky to win.

But after looking at a lot of LSU posts, it almost sounds as if they think the SECW will be decided bw LSU or Arky; thus, LSU fans are rooting for Bama.

Posted by blzr
MB
Member since Mar 2011
30103 posts
Posted on 9/12/11 at 5:56 pm to
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Alabama 35 Arkansas 10


Maybe this will go better than your Auburn MSU prediction.
This post was edited on 9/12/11 at 5:57 pm
Posted by liferedeemed
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jul 2007
381 posts
Posted on 9/12/11 at 6:43 pm to
I think Saban will be blitzing the linebackers most of the time and bumping the receivers to keep us from having the time for a deep game. The trick will be timing the quick outs and slants. I think there will be quite a few times we hit the drag route. I think the key to winning for Arkansas is YAC.

I think Saban punts to Joe.

I think we will try to get LB covering WR in the slot and exploit that. I am concerned that Wilson will not get the height on the passes and we will see a number batted down.

For Arkansas, we are basically playing the opposite defensive strategy. We are going to play up to the line of scrimmage and take our chances on getting beat deep. I see us just using the DL for the pass rush. I think you will see a mix of coverages from the secondary. I think Safeties will be coming to shore up the linebackers on the run.

I think Bama showed a little more on tape than Arkansas (bc of Penn St.), so a quick start by Arkansas would be expected, but Saban's second half adjustments and home crowd will definitely come into play before the end of the game.

For Bama, the keys to winning will be establishing the run game. But I would not be surprised if Saban calls a couple of deep balls early to keep us honest.
Posted by FleaMarketBill
Mayor of Wizard Township
Member since Apr 2010
12840 posts
Posted on 9/12/11 at 6:44 pm to
No they just got Pork'd all offseason and they're mad about it.
This post was edited on 9/12/11 at 6:45 pm
Posted by PipeHog
NWA
Member since Jun 2011
561 posts
Posted on 9/12/11 at 7:51 pm to
I think it will be a great game. I think it will come down to can Arkansas run the ball and can Bama pressure Wilson without having to blitz.

I really excited to see the Arkansas defense against the Bama ground game.
Posted by Woopigsooie20
Me Scusi
Member since Mar 2010
57359 posts
Posted on 9/12/11 at 7:57 pm to
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It's a literal chess match on the field and beautiful to watch. Last year Petrino won the match but lost the game.


Sucks too man. If Knile Davis had taken over by then we would have probably won. We had no running game to run clock.
Posted by Woopigsooie20
Me Scusi
Member since Mar 2010
57359 posts
Posted on 9/12/11 at 7:59 pm to
Both teams have ran relatively vanilla offense's and Defense's so far. Petrino said today he hasn't turned the Defense loose yet.
Posted by stronghouse
Alabama
Member since Aug 2011
908 posts
Posted on 9/12/11 at 7:59 pm to
Ok. So Arkansas only scored 20 pts against Alabama and lost last season. They had an experience and NFL talent at QB in Ryan Mallett. They had a very good running back in Kniles Davis. They played at home and Alabama had a inexperience secondary with a injured Hightower and Upshaw. They also had an early test to measure themselves against the Bulldogs.

Now Arkansas comes on the road with an inexperience QB. They do not have Knile Davis. The Alabama secondary has experience and Upshaw and Hightower are healthy. Arkansas also only have played against cupcakes and have no idea how to measure their protection or execution against a quality opponent.

I'm not saying Arkansas doesn't have chance but for the reasons some of these guys have posted is hilarious.
This post was edited on 9/12/11 at 8:03 pm
Posted by Woopigsooie20
Me Scusi
Member since Mar 2010
57359 posts
Posted on 9/12/11 at 8:04 pm to
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but for the reasons some of these guys have posted is hilarious.


Just as hilarious as acting like last year has any barring on this upcoming game. If previous years were the case, Alabama would have kicked our arse last year considering 2008-09.

Also, FYI, Knile Davis only carried the ball 6 times against Alabama last year. He didn't take over until a couple games later.
Posted by HogsInTheRock
ARKANSAS
Member since Nov 2004
625 posts
Posted on 9/12/11 at 8:17 pm to
Arkansas will have to overcome the officiating too. I know sour grapes and whatnot but STFU you all know it will be a factor.
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