re: Tuesday SEC Baseball

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you are hard and fast to these data points because they reward Auburn for playing a hard schedule.

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No I’m hard and fast on these data points because it’s the NCAA Selection Committee’s stated criteria. Sorry we don’t all throw their criteria out the window to reward you for beating up on South Carolina and Vandy, but that’s just not how it works.

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Where you and I disagree and have disagreed for a few weeks now is the value of a metric like RPI that can punish a team for winning a game and, therefore, incentivizing teams to cancel midweek games to avoid a metric hit.

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Who’s doing this outside of teams like Kentucky who are on the bubble?

And RPI doesn’t punish anyone for winning a game. It punishes you for playing cupcakes. Again sorry you don’t like that.

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I watch a lot of college baseball. Georgia is objectively one of the 5 best teams in the country right now.

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I too watch a lot of college baseball. You are correct in that Georgia is a very good team. But it’s also a hard cold fact that Georgia has played by far the easiest schedule of any team in contention for a national seed… even UCLA who plays in the Big 10 and Southern Miss who plays in the freaking Sun Belt have a stronger SOS. Those are just facts. And just because your team’s W/L record benefited from the easier schedule doesn’t mean that the committee should throw their criteria out the window.

Neat. So there should be a huge disparity in how teams actually performed against all that competition right?

Winning percentage vs Q1 & Q2 competition:

.650 - Georgia (13-7)
.583 - Texas (21-11)
.576 - Bama (19-14)
.571 - Auburn (20-15)
.563 - Florida (18-14)
.560 - Texas A&M (14-11)
.552 - Arkansas (16-13)
.500 - Miss State (14-14)
.500 - Tennessee (12-12)
.478 - Kentucky (11-12)
.471 - Oklahoma (16-18)
.455 - Ole Miss (15-18)

Sorry that South Carolina and LSU sucked this year but we beat who we played.

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Who’s doing this outside of teams like Kentucky who are on the bubble?

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In the past 2 weeks: UNC, NC State, Oregon, ASU, Boston College, Virginia Tech, and Miami just to name a few

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And RPI doesn’t punish anyone for winning a game. It punishes you for playing cupcakes. Again sorry you don’t like that.

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lol yes it does. I watched our RPI drop 2 points after beating Troy a few weeks ago. I’m not the only one to make this observation either

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No reason to cancel an already agreed upon matchup.

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Meh. Agree to disagree. NCAA sets season game minimums. If you’re above the minimum then I don’t see the issue (especially if both teams agree on it).

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No excuse playing a NC SOS in the 200’s…. Especially when you are about 100 miles away from about a dozen Top 100 RPI teams you could schedule.

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I’m not disagreeing with your here, our non con sucked and our own fanbase grumbled about it. But Wes has done it by design for the past 3 years as it allows a portal heavy team time to gel and test out different lineups and pitchers in different spots. It’s quite obviously paid dividends come conference play the last 3 seasons. This year in particular, though, the competition just wasn’t as good or didn’t end up performing as well in their own right as in years past (which is what truly sucks about RPI; 75% of the metric has nothing to do with your own on field performance but instead how the teams you’ve played and the teams they end up playing do).

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Also, Georgia has four Quad 3 and/or Quad 4 losses… that offsets that Q1+2 Win % real fast. Auburn and MS State have zero such bad losses. Texas and Texas A&M have just one each.

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Only one loss of which happened on a weekend against Wright State in the opening series of the season (same team btw that bounced Vandy from the Nashville regional last year only to go 24-23 this year. Again can’t control how other teams do after we schedule them). Troy, KSU, and Western Carolina all came early in the year against midweek pitching.

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You have to look at all these things in their entirety. And RPI+DSR+KPI does a pretty good job of showing the entire picture.

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In proper proportion, sure. But there’s a pretty good reason why our DSR and KPI (hell even ELO) skew pretty far from what RPI says; RPI is the statistical outlier at 14 compared to a 6 DSR, 7 KPI, and 3 ELO

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You don’t get punished for winning. You get punished for PLAYING easy opponents. I promise had you lost that game you would have dropped much further.

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Aw frick you’re right, we messed up by playing and winning instead of just cancelling. Something to improve on I guess…

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That didn’t mean your team “dropped”.

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We were 2 spots lower after winning a game in a metric you are telling me means so much in a critical decision making process. Yes, we “dropped.”

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Auburn has so far played 12 games against the RPI Top 10. Georgia has played 4 such games. So when you play an easier team there’s not as much stiff competition to cancel it out.

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Auburn only played 11 games against the RPI top 10 and is 4-7 in those games btw. I’ll give you your trophy for playing a hard schedule but you’re gonna have to start painting the full picture; you can reward UGA for our performance when we did play meaningful competition and I’ll reward Auburn for making the effort in the first place.

And not for nothing, Georgia played 4 against the top 10 but 13 against the top 15 and went 8-5. Just throwing that out there.

Sometimes you just gotta have a good ol pissing match during the lunch hour