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re: Truth is if you can't make a 12 team playoff....

Posted on 11/20/25 at 9:58 pm to
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
35910 posts
Posted on 11/20/25 at 9:58 pm to
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What about the 2-loss teams that don't make the CFP?

They achieved exactly the same thing that a 10 loss team did.

Posted by Boomer65
Norman
Member since Sep 2022
1236 posts
Posted on 11/20/25 at 10:19 pm to
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Ohio State will completely dominate anyone we play anyway so it doesn't matter how many teams are in. 2025 Ohio State will go down in history as the greatest of all time!


Nice alter.

Funny you say that because I asked ChatGPT how OSU would fare if they had OU’s schedule. It said the frickeyes would probably have 2 losses. Must be nice skating by on a cupcake schedule.
Posted by Nasty_Canasta
Canada
Member since Dec 2024
4718 posts
Posted on 11/20/25 at 10:37 pm to
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asked ChatGPT how OSU would fare if they had OU’s schedule. It said the frickeyes would probably have 2 losses


I’d probably agree they’d have the same record as OU. But I wouldn’t need to ask ChapGPT about it
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
38881 posts
Posted on 11/20/25 at 10:59 pm to
The path to the playoffs are completely fricked up right now to the point where playing weaker schedules and avoiding big games is the best way to make them.

Everything the sport has been built on over the past 100 years is now backwards.

We have revenue sharing in the SEC because we believed that while teams like Alabama and the others doing NC runs obviously generate the most revenue, it's beneficial to Alabama and other teams to have tough conferences opponents. A good Miss St is good for the conference..or was. Because it improved our SoS. Now, SoS doesn't mean shite.

Other conferences didn't really do much of that and it showed.

We scheduled quality OOC games to increase SoS, and also have some big games for ticket sales etc. Now, these games are no longer beneficial. Alabama loses to FSU and it's "win your games", but we could have just scheduled some shitty G5 team and won easily. Because record is all that matters apparently.

The truth is, if you didn't make the playoffs and you are an SEC team on the bubble, you probably got fricked over by some shitty team ranked well below you who never played anyone or really did anything, but got included to make people happy.

Also, the entire system is shitty and we should go back to 4 teams, or 2.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
38881 posts
Posted on 11/20/25 at 11:01 pm to
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Nice alter.

Funny you say that because I asked ChatGPT how OSU would fare if they had OU’s schedule. It said the frickeyes would probably have 2 losses. Must be nice skating by on a cupcake schedule.


An elite team on Oklahoma's schedule is expect to have 1.76 losses.

An elite team on Ohio St's schedule is expected to have 0.82 losses.

Oklahoma schedule is basically twice as hard as the Ohio St schedule. The weakest schedule in the SEC is Vanderbilt. They have 1.35 expected losses, much more difficult than Ohio St.
Posted by Rip N Lip
Zambodia
Member since Jul 2019
7160 posts
Posted on 11/20/25 at 11:12 pm to
The G5 auto bid bullshite needs to end with the quickness. Hell, get rid of all of the auto bids and you put the Top 12 teams in there.

Four was always enough.
Posted by Nasty_Canasta
Canada
Member since Dec 2024
4718 posts
Posted on 11/20/25 at 11:14 pm to
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Four was always enough.


No it wasn’t. They need to go to 64 so Auburn can claim another one
This post was edited on 11/20/25 at 11:15 pm
Posted by Rip N Lip
Zambodia
Member since Jul 2019
7160 posts
Posted on 11/20/25 at 11:55 pm to
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Four was always enough.


Expanding to 12, skipping a model with 8 teams, was nothing but a cash grab. The on the field product has suffered.

Hell, look at the simulated BCS rankings very week, and especially the week before the current CFP begins. You don’t need 12 teams and the assholes want to get to 16 yesterday. Total garbage.
Posted by Audustxx
Member since Jul 2022
2288 posts
Posted on 11/21/25 at 5:57 am to
People want to watch the blue bloods
Posted by Dawgs2122
Member since Dec 2024
2130 posts
Posted on 11/21/25 at 7:18 am to
Yawn. We've scheduled Notre Dame OOC. Also opened against both Clemson and Oregon. We have Ohio State camping up and Georgia Tech is better than Texas. But welcome to the party I guess.
Posted by Gator Fever
Member since Sep 2021
4963 posts
Posted on 11/21/25 at 7:39 am to
A 10-2 SEC team.missing the playoff is bad but some of the SEC schedules are a lot easier than others. Same with the Big 10. Oregon should have zero chance to get in with a USC loss with that joke of a schedule.
Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
61885 posts
Posted on 11/21/25 at 7:43 am to
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bowl cut

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UGAy


What are you, 12?

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Luck will run out eventually then its back to another 40 years of garbage UGA like they belong

I mean...we have head to head, more titles, more wins, more conference championships, More weeks in AP Poll, More weeks #1 in AP Poll and it goes on and on.....so your post says more about Auburn than it does about Georgia.

The only thing Auburn has over Georgia is claimed National Championships, of which some that Auburn did not even participate in the championship game, and others that you were on probation for cheating, etc....so....
Posted by Zgeo
Baja Oklahoma
Member since Jul 2021
3227 posts
Posted on 11/21/25 at 7:45 am to
TBH Texass had opportunities to beat OSU and choked, and the season has now shown that Texass is not a playoff team……

So we will see.
Posted by RunningJacket
Member since Dec 2008
702 posts
Posted on 11/21/25 at 8:11 am to
We all know the real truth - the sport of college football has always been a joke because of the completely moronic history of picking the champion. The arguments in this thread and of this point in history are no different than the arguments in the 1930’s, 1950’s, 1970’s, etc. And it’s all because the sport is about power and money and not fairness. You don’t see the Dallas Cowboys playing the Ottawa Roughriders yet this weekend alone we have 5-6 top 20 teams playing high school comparable teams.

Nothing in this sport has ever been legit. However, with each progression of the playoff the sport is getting closer to being legit as more teams have a fair shot. Take Ole Miss. A program that has won nothing in decades. They actually now have their first shot in 60 years to prove themselves. No more hypotheticals, no more arguments. Games will be played where winners advance and losers go home. This sport has never had that until very recently. Once it grows to 24 plus teams then this sport will become legit and future fans will place asterisks on the past as they should.

All these programs who claimed national titles because they threatened sports writers will be laughed at. We all saw Ohio State win a series of games and handed the trophy. That is true sports. It isn’t having #1 beat #7 and then “claiming” a Natty. This sport will really take off as more teams have access and it stops being a southern sport.
Posted by Murph4HOF
A-T-L-A-N-T-A (that's where I stay)
Member since Sep 2019
17796 posts
Posted on 11/21/25 at 9:54 am to
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It’s been 20 years since Auburn won in Athens.
Posted by 3rddownonthe8
Atlanta, GA
Member since Aug 2011
5342 posts
Posted on 11/21/25 at 9:54 am to
Auburn went and added 7 national tithes out thin air; because they realized they will most likely never see another one. The 41 years for UGA between 1980 and 2021 sucked fir sure, just like the 35 years did between 1945-1980 I’m sure.. Probly wasn’t as bad as the the 53 years between 1957-2010 was with AUs only recognized titles.

Meanwhile UGA current streaks against annual rivals-
Auburn- 66-56-8; current 9
Florida- 56-44-2; current 5
Georgia Tech- 62-41-5; current 7
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
39093 posts
Posted on 11/21/25 at 10:14 am to
It always starts this way....

For 100 years people are cool with media crowning the MNC...Bowl games and postseason are not designed to match #1 vs. #2 but match up Conference champions with Bowl tie-ins...if Top teams meet at the end, its happenstance.

Then 1987 Fiesta Bowl happens...a deliberate planned matchup between #1 and #2 because of Conference independence.... Its the most-watched CFB game of all-time to that date...people start thinking, hmm...there's real money here.

Now we Need to find a way to get #1 vs. #2.... But we can't leave it to chance or last minute but it has to be manufactured all Season...enter the BCS, its new and finally people get what they think they want.

Then 2003 happens and cries the "system" is bunk and egregiously flawed by leaving out the #1 team in the land in both Polls.

Then we get 4 teams, Playoffs, that will solve Everything! But soon 4 teams isn't enough, fans clamoring their team is getting screwed, SEC-ESPN bias, etc.

So now we need all sections of the Country represented in the Playoffs... Enter 12-team Playoffs... Already, this is not enough..."but our 3-loss SEC team is better than X champion from Joe blow Conference! "

Soon it will be more teams, its never enough as the regular season devolves into exhibition.

People still complain about who got "snubbed" as the play-in teams in the 68 field...nothing will suffice until all is perfectly fair and we no longer can see the Forest for the trees.
This post was edited on 11/21/25 at 10:15 am
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
38881 posts
Posted on 11/21/25 at 10:29 am to
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but some of the SEC schedules are a lot easier than others.


Because 16 is too many fricking teams for a single conference.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
38881 posts
Posted on 11/21/25 at 10:30 am to
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It always starts this way....

For 100 years people are cool with media crowning the MNC...Bowl games and postseason are not designed to match #1 vs. #2 but match up Conference champions with Bowl tie-ins...if Top teams meet at the end, its happenstance.

Then 1987 Fiesta Bowl happens...a deliberate planned matchup between #1 and #2 because of Conference independence.... Its the most-watched CFB game of all-time to that date...people start thinking, hmm...there's real money here.

Now we Need to find a way to get #1 vs. #2.... But we can't leave it to chance or last minute but it has to be manufactured all Season...enter the BCS, its new and finally people get what they think they want.

Then 2003 happens and cries the "system" is bunk and egregiously flawed by leaving out the #1 team in the land in both Polls.

Then we get 4 teams, Playoffs, that will solve Everything! But soon 4 teams isn't enough, fans clamoring their team is getting screwed, SEC-ESPN bias, etc.

So now we need all sections of the Country represented in the Playoffs... Enter 12-team Playoffs... Already, this is not enough..."but our 3-loss SEC team is better than X champion from Joe blow Conference! "

Soon it will be more teams, its never enough as the regular season devolves into exhibition.

People still complain about who got "snubbed" as the play-in teams in the 68 field...nothing will suffice until all is perfectly fair and we no longer can see the Forest for the trees.


This isn't really the history.
Posted by chkenhawk
Member since Jun 2025
719 posts
Posted on 11/21/25 at 10:32 am to
before NIL and parity 4 teams was usually (but not always) enough to get the legit contenders. Now it should be 16, which is still the same number of rounds just gets rid of the byes which is also how it should be
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