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re: Torvik's 2021-2022 College Basketball Preseason Projections

Posted on 5/14/21 at 10:18 am to
Posted by Irons Puppet
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Posted on 5/14/21 at 10:18 am to
Again, Covid restrictions, no home court and youth. Throw in UF psyche after the near death of a player.
This post was edited on 5/14/21 at 10:21 am
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
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Posted on 5/14/21 at 10:20 am to
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Again, Covid restrictions, no home court and youth.



Yea pretty sure the league would have looked relatively similar. Probably a bit more crowded in the top 1/3 due to a few more road losses for teams, but other than that the teams pretty much who were they were.
Posted by Robot Santa
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Posted on 5/14/21 at 10:22 am to
Everyone dealt with the same restrictions and lack of crowds. Home court advantage was weak last season, but that also meant that winning games on the road became easier for everyone. That hurts bad teams, but it doesn't change much for good teams. Some teams will be young and others will be experienced every year, so I'm not sure what "youth" has to do with anything in terms of the strength of the conference.
This post was edited on 5/14/21 at 10:24 am
Posted by Irons Puppet
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Posted on 5/14/21 at 10:26 am to
A teams with some experience were able to take advantage of it.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
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Posted on 5/14/21 at 10:27 am to
Puppets, how good do you think Alabama will be next season?

How good do you think Auburn will be next season?

How good do you think Florida will be next season?

Posted by Robot Santa
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Posted on 5/14/21 at 10:28 am to
Teams with experience have a leg up every year. I mean it's obvious what you're trying to do here, but it's impossible to come up with any sort of scenario where the nature of last season benefitted Alabama and Alabama only.
Posted by SpartyGator
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Posted on 5/14/21 at 10:33 am to
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21. Florida


Posted by BowlJackson
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Posted on 5/14/21 at 10:33 am to
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Why?


Bc we'll be better than you
Posted by Chadaristic
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Posted on 5/14/21 at 10:42 am to
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Bc we'll be better than you


Why?
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
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Posted on 5/14/21 at 10:45 am to
Right now I couldn't nail down the success of any of those programs. Bama lost the core of their experience, AU lost their QB of their Offense and UF is going to have to reload, but with talent. I do think Bama's success was due to the issues of Covid and a few experienced SRs. Auburn had to rebuild but the NCAA and injuries never allowed that to happen. We have seen the issues with UF and why.

Remember high seeds in the NCAAT bodes well for a deep run, so a skewed record should have help the SEC in the tourney. Two teams in the Sweet 16 and one in the final 8 in strange year doesnt show well for the league.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
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Posted on 5/14/21 at 10:48 am to
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Right now I couldn't nail down the success of any of those programs. Bama lost the core of their experience, AU lost their QB of their Offense and UF is going to have to reload, but with talent. I do think Bama's success was due to the issues of Covid and a few experienced SRs. Auburn had to rebuild but the NCAA and injuries never allowed that to happen. We have seen the issues with UF and why.

Remember high seeds in the NCAAT bodes well for a deep run, so a skewed record should have help the SEC in the tourney. Two teams in the Sweet 16 and one in the final 8 in strange year doesnt show well for the league.



Do Alabama, Auburn, Florida

- Finish in the Top Half of the SEC?

- Make the NCAA Tournament?

This post was edited on 5/14/21 at 10:49 am
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
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Posted on 5/14/21 at 10:52 am to
Again, it is a crap shoot. Anyone who bases it on last year is fooling themselves.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
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Posted on 5/14/21 at 10:53 am to
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Again, it is a crap shoot


So your opinion is you have absolutely no idea what is going to happen with any team in 2021-2022

Fair enough
This post was edited on 5/14/21 at 10:54 am
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
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Posted on 5/14/21 at 10:58 am to
Anyone who thinks they know is a fool in my opinion. Let's hear your evaluation.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
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Posted on 5/14/21 at 11:03 am to
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Anyone who thinks they know is a fool in my opinion


I think there is a difference in "thinking you know for sure" and having a general idea.

quote:

Let's hear your evaluation.



I think Alabama, Auburn, Arkansas, Florida, Kentucky and Tennessee will all be NCAA Tournament teams that finish somewhere between 9-9 and 13-5 in conference play. How that group shakes out #1-6 I truly don't know. I think LSU will end up being in that group too, probably. I'd probably say Alabama, Arkansas, Auburn, Kentucky, Tennessee as the top 5 and then LSU/Florida as the next 2, but who knows.

I think Georgia and South Carolina are going to go 2-16 or 3-15. Missouri might not be too far behind.

Ole Miss and State could be 10-8 or 7-11, really not sure. Vandy is kind of a wild card too - could be .500ish or could be terrible again and get Stack fired.

This is generally the year that Buzz's teams click and are solid, so I'm curious to see if A&M looks better. However, his roster is so different I wonder if the way he builds teams suffers from it and he's kind of starting over again.
This post was edited on 5/14/21 at 11:07 am
Posted by BowlJackson
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Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 5/14/21 at 11:28 am to
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Why?


Better players, better coaching, better home court advantage, better program, better team, etc
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 5/14/21 at 11:28 am to
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I think there is a difference in "thinking you know for sure" and having a general idea.



I think you are pole vaulting over words. General idea is as much of a guess as "thinking you know for sure".

Not going out on a limb thinking the SEC will get 6 Teams in the NCAAT, the issue will be who limps in and who is a legit high seed. The SEC receives the benefit of the doubt recently when sometimes it is unwarranted. Next year will probably be the worst year for prognosticators for both Football and Basketball. Mainly due to basing it on this past year.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
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Posted on 5/14/21 at 11:29 am to
K
Posted by SCgamecock2988
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Posted on 5/14/21 at 11:31 am to
How is Georgia as a state that bad at basketball/recruiting?
Posted by Chadaristic
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 5/14/21 at 11:34 am to
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Better players, better coaching, better home court advantage, better program, better team, etc


Interesting - I had no idea y'all had that big of an advantage on us.
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