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Posted on 1/30/21 at 8:28 am to Smokeyone
Posted on 1/30/21 at 8:28 am to Smokeyone
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Bama likely wins the championship anyway but when teams were decimated by contact tracing protocols, no spring, limited fall, conferences not playing then sorta playing, some schools playing 12 games while some played 5? And tOSU asking for a delay that wasn’t granted. It merits an asterisk because of situations outside Bama control, situations they couldn’t control.
What this season did for me is expose the playoff committee in a new and different way. They were willing to overlook SOS, attrition that teams had to fight through, and Ohio State, who never played more than 5 regular season games never played a game back to back until the Alabama game. That's gross dereliction of duty unbecoming for any Playoff committee.
The playoff committee got it wrong for all of college football. They completely sold out to give us the buckeyes and Dabo was right with his vote and having the courage to explain it several times.
The only thing I genuinely hope comes from 2020 is an 8 team playoff. Florida, Georgia, Oklahoma sitting at home watching Notre Dame, Clemson, and Buckeyes at 6-0 represent the best of the best was just insane.
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Posted on 1/30/21 at 8:37 am to bamameister
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The only thing I genuinely hope comes from 2020 is an 8 team playoff. Florida, Georgia, Oklahoma sitting at home watching Notre Dame, Clemson, and Buckeyes at 6-0 represent the best of the best was just insane.
So your answer to an unworthy team being in the playoffs is to expand it to allow 4 less worthy teams in? How does that make sense?
Posted on 1/30/21 at 8:47 am to Smokeyone
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So your answer to an unworthy team being in the playoffs is to expand it to allow 4 less worthy teams in? How does that make sense?
Notre Dame, Clemson, and Ohio State vs Georgia, TAMU, and Oklahoma. What's your argument?
Posted on 1/30/21 at 8:50 am to Sid E Walker
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There’s no denying that it was much more challenging than a ‘normal’ season
Playing teams with 85 percent of their rosters. Much less challenging.
Posted on 1/30/21 at 8:57 am to goodgrin
quote:It'll happen every time teams in a conference ONLY play each other (1 wins; 1 loses)...I'll bet you weren't much at math, huh?
Doesn't matter. I see a LOT of .500 or sub .500 teams, which compromised the majority of games. Holy shite!
Posted on 1/30/21 at 9:11 am to bamameister
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Notre Dame, Clemson, and Ohio State vs Georgia, TAMU, and Oklahoma. What's your argument?
That you seem to feel tOSU didn’t deserve to be be there but want to put a bunch of teams with less business being there in. tOSU was an undefeated power 5 conference champion. You cannot leave them out of a playoff unless you have 5 undefeated power 5 conference champion teams.
We really need an empirical standard for a playoff instead of a subjective feeling of who should be in a playoff. Otherwise you will keep expanding it. As it stands 4 usually seeing at least 1 usually 2 teams that don’t preform to the expectations of a playoff team. Subjective feelings see this and want to include more teams.
Criteria to be a playoff team per smokeyone:
1. Undefeated P5 conference championship winner
2. 1 loss P5 conference championship loser
3. Undefeated P5 independent
4. Undefeated G5 conference championship winner
5. 1 loss P5 team that didn’t win its division or independent
6. 2 loss P5 conference championship winner
7. 2 loss P5 conference loser/independent/didn’t win its division
Start at the top and work your way down til you have 4 teams.
This ends The Who should or should not get in stuff and slows down expanding/cheapening the playoffs
This post was edited on 1/30/21 at 9:13 am
Posted on 1/30/21 at 9:13 am to biclops
** COVID year
*** Opt Outs
*** Opt Outs
Posted on 1/30/21 at 9:29 am to Smokeyone
So much ingnorance in this one thread...my ignorance levels have been topped off
Posted on 1/30/21 at 9:38 am to Smokeyone
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That you seem to feel tOSU didn’t deserve to be be there but want to put a bunch of teams with less business being there in. tOSU was an undefeated power 5 conference champion. You cannot leave them out of a playoff unless you have 5 undefeated power 5 conference champion teams.
That's your opinion. Who really knows who was best if we don't use the same measuring stick? That was impossible with the buckeyes. They played half a schedule. Ohio State was in the playoff in 2014 and didn't make the B1G championship game. Penn State won the B1G that year. Yet, there they were and won the whole thing by the way.
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We really need an empirical standard for a playoff instead of a subjective feeling of who should be in a playoff. Otherwise you will keep expanding it. As it stands 4 usually seeing at least 1 usually 2 teams that don’t preform to the expectations of a playoff team. Subjective feelings see this and want to include more teams.
Humans will always be subjective. Humans decide things even when we load those computers and it spits out Boise State as the best in the land.
Notre Dame got their azz handed to them vs Clemson. The very next game, Clemson got their azz handed to them by Ohio State. The very next game Ohio State got their azz handed to them by Alabama.
I can easily make an argument for Georgia, TAMU, and Oklahoma as just as worthy as those 3.
Posted on 1/30/21 at 9:58 am to goodgrin
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Doesn't matter. I see a LOT of .500 or sub .500 teams, which compromised the majority of games. Holy shite!
This is a dumb take. They are only playing each other so of course some teams will be under 500! In fact, Alabama played all SEC schools except for the two worst.
Posted on 1/30/21 at 10:10 am to dstone12
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Playing teams with 85 percent of their rosters. Much less challenging.
Bama played with 100% of their team all season?
Wow, even more impressive, and further proof that 2020 Bama is tGOAT team.
Posted on 1/30/21 at 10:39 am to goodgrin
The problem with your list is that all those teams did not play OOC games. Every single one of them would have had a much better record. The funny thing is the SEC with those "lousy" teams, went 6-2 in bowl games.
The SEC is the toughest conference in the country, and Alabama played 11 of those teams.
The SEC is the toughest conference in the country, and Alabama played 11 of those teams.
Posted on 1/30/21 at 10:41 am to TideFaninFl
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SEC is the toughest conference in the country,
Posted on 1/30/21 at 10:42 am to Solo Cam
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They also had that brutal 3 week bye in November lol
You failed to mention because of LSU chickening out.
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If Lawrence never gets it - he wins the heisman and Notre Dame doesn’t get into the playoffs
And Alabama does to Clemson what Ohio State did to Clemson.
Posted on 1/30/21 at 10:43 am to Solo Cam
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You don’t accidentally become the worst state for education in the entire country
Well, Louisianan education is what it is.
Posted on 1/30/21 at 10:45 am to Sid E Walker
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Bama played with 100% of their team all season?
Wow, even more impressive, and further proof that 2020 Bama is tGOAT team.
Posted on 1/30/21 at 10:46 am to biclops
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Alabama Fan
Checks out
Posted on 1/30/21 at 10:46 am to Fightin Okra
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** COVID year
*** Opt Outs
Makes the year more challenging, and no team had any opt outs when they play Alabama.
Posted on 1/30/21 at 10:50 am to justice
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SEC is the toughest conference in the country,
Name one tougher?
Name one that has won the NC 12 out of the last 17 years?
Name one where almost all the schools have winning bowl records?
Posted on 1/30/21 at 10:51 am to biclops
LSU fans all over this thread, it's really quite surprising.
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