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re: Top 25 teams since 1960 (power ratings)

Posted on 7/15/26 at 8:04 am to
Posted by MilkJug
Member since Nov 2025
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Posted on 7/15/26 at 8:04 am to
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Are game results biased? We saw that 2019 LSU is better than 2019 Clemson.

It is kind of biased for "power rating", shown by my list of rematches a couple pages back. But if we want a true "ranking" and If we think head-to-head should get a boost, then we factor that in.

Again, just so it makes sense...

2021 Bama beat Georgia 41-24. Did the better team win that day?

Because Georgia went on to beat Bama 33-18 in the NC game. The best team doesn't always win. In fact, just from the head-to-head that year, we can't tell if Bama or Georgia is the better team - that's why power ratings lean on the entire body of work. And that's why both my model and Vegas had Georgia beating Bama in the NC game.
This post was edited on 7/15/26 at 8:19 am
Posted by MilkJug
Member since Nov 2025
230 posts
Posted on 7/15/26 at 8:07 am to
quote:

my model has
1.1995 Nebraska
2.2019 LSU
3.01 Miami
4.2020 Bama

let's get a vote and see which people think is better

Right now, I have a Fan Poll on the site and you can go submit your ballot. But that's only for the current season. But I can add an all-time Fan Poll (Best teams of all time poll) if yall want.
Posted by smallmouth
Member since Aug 2015
114 posts
Posted on 7/15/26 at 8:16 am to
64 Arkansas team allowed less than six points per game and had 5 consecutive shutouts against conference teams.
11-0
Posted by BurgTiger
Member since Feb 2014
3503 posts
Posted on 7/15/26 at 9:32 am to
That #20 LSU team would win every game on that list. You are telling me any of those secondary’s from the Nebraska dynasty could handle Joe and those receivers? No freaking way. What he did that season was must watch.
Posted by Soonerd78
Member since Sep 2024
3369 posts
Posted on 7/15/26 at 3:35 pm to
thx for telling us what most who have watched football for 40 years already knew 1995 Nebraska was hands down the best team ever .
Posted by MilkJug
Member since Nov 2025
230 posts
Posted on 7/17/26 at 9:04 am to
This is a "ranking". As opposed to the OP list, this is not predicting who would beat who. This is simply a measure of how dominant a team was against the field in the season they played. Running up the score is not rewarded, pulling starters late in the game is not punishing. It considers strength of schedule, quality wins, and bad losses.

* obviously, I don't have a solution yet for the Covid year. I'm trying to find an accurate, non-biased way of handling that. Anomalies are tough to deal with. I'd like to use injury and absence data, which I can already kind of do by inferring absences based on a player not having stats - the problem with this is that offensive lineman don't record stats and it's also common for defensive players to not record stats. For example, there are many games where a lockdown corner doesn't record a stat, because the other team didn't throw his way. Also, DLs have games where they don't record stats. So that was too inaccurate, so I took it out. I need actual depth chart data. I've been scouring the internet and this is really hard to find. Certainly hard to find going back decades.

This is 1960 forward. I do have an all-time ranking list. You'll notice there are a lot of ties, which I'm ok with. This is more like "buckets" of the best teams ever.
This post was edited on 7/17/26 at 9:08 am
Posted by bamabaseballsec
Member since Dec 2020
4318 posts
Posted on 7/17/26 at 9:30 am to
These lists that go back this far are stupid. Times change and styles change, but there is zero chance any of the teams pre 90s have a shot at beating an above average modern(bcs era to present) college football team. Having a team from the 70s on an all time list is just crazy. Not picking on uga but 1980 is a good clean year. Go look at the defensive line. Notice the size. The largest guy on the team weighed 280, only five players weighed more than 250. Best team in 1980, probably couldnt win the big 12 today.
Posted by MilkJug
Member since Nov 2025
230 posts
Posted on 7/17/26 at 9:42 am to
quote:

but there is zero chance any of the teams pre 90s have a shot at beating an above average modern(bcs era to present) college football team.


quote:

As opposed to the OP list, this is not predicting who would beat who. This is simply a measure of how dominant a team was against the field in the season they played.


I guess even putting it in bold doesn't make you people read it..
This post was edited on 7/17/26 at 9:45 am
Posted by Gatorbait2008
Member since Aug 2015
29782 posts
Posted on 7/17/26 at 3:32 pm to
Sorry this is bullshot..the best four teams in CFB I have seen were....in no order

2005 USC
2001 Miami
2019 LSU
1995 Nebraska
Posted by MilkJug
Member since Nov 2025
230 posts
Posted on 7/17/26 at 4:33 pm to
I've always thought '01 Miami was a little overrated. Yes, they had a lot of 1st round picks and great NFL players. But what they actually did on the field at Miami has been overrated.

Don't twist my words, I think they are a top 10 team all time (don't know where I would put them), I just don't think they're top 3.

They played and beat one.. ONE top 15 team that year (Nebraska). Could they have beaten more, absolutely, but they didn't play them. As opposed to a team like 2016 Alabama who beat 9 ranked teams. I'm not saying 2016 Bama was better, but they at least proved themselves against a much tougher schedule. 2019 LSU played and beat 7 top 10 teams. The only thing that Miami team can say, relative to other all-time great teams, is "we had a lot of NFL players".
Posted by GoldenDawg
Dawg in Exile
Member since Oct 2013
22180 posts
Posted on 7/17/26 at 5:18 pm to
Sofa King We Todd Id.
Posted by Gatorbait2008
Member since Aug 2015
29782 posts
Posted on 7/18/26 at 9:32 am to
I do not know what model they used...but it is terrible as all hell.
Posted by Gatorbait2008
Member since Aug 2015
29782 posts
Posted on 7/18/26 at 3:25 pm to
Umm..we won by 559-221.....We literally doubled + the points scored on us.
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
44206 posts
Posted on 7/18/26 at 4:32 pm to
quote:

2005 USC


Wouldn’t 05 Texas take that spot
Posted by MilkJug
Member since Nov 2025
230 posts
Posted on 7/18/26 at 6:34 pm to
who? what year? wtf are you talking about?
Posted by Rodo
Houston
Member since Aug 2011
2164 posts
Posted on 7/18/26 at 7:23 pm to
Does this mean Nebraska wont suck this year?

Rodo
Posted by Gatorbait2008
Member since Aug 2015
29782 posts
Posted on 7/19/26 at 10:54 am to
I will stand by my four best teams I have seen. In order by year.

1995 Nebraska
2001 Miami Hurricanes
2005 USC Trojans
2019 LSU Tigers




Delete, repeat.
This post was edited on 7/19/26 at 10:57 am
Posted by Gatorbait2008
Member since Aug 2015
29782 posts
Posted on 7/19/26 at 5:21 pm to
The only thing I agree with are 1995 Nebraska and 2005 Texas, but 2005 USC, 2001 Miami, and 2019 LSU so low is crazy and dumb. I am sorry but that is the fricking top 5 should be(in no order).

2001 Miami
1995 Nebraska
2005 South Cal
2019 LSU Tigers
2020 Alabama Crison Tide

This post was edited on 7/19/26 at 5:22 pm
Posted by Gatorbait2008
Member since Aug 2015
29782 posts
Posted on 7/19/26 at 5:23 pm to
Delete, changed it to top 5 because odd numbers are better.
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