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Too many different NIL laws per state

Posted on 1/31/24 at 11:06 am
Posted by narddogg81
Vancouver
Member since Jan 2012
19698 posts
Posted on 1/31/24 at 11:06 am
Need a national nil law that states nil contracts cannot be tied to a player playing for a particular school, if a player transfers the nil deal remains in tact and they still have to get paid. Since what's supposed to be getting sold are name image and likeness, those things are the same regardless of where the player plays. Bet that would dry up the ridiculous amounts
Posted by TheTideMustRoll
Birmingham, AL
Member since Dec 2009
8906 posts
Posted on 1/31/24 at 11:08 am to
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Need a national nil law that states nil contracts cannot be tied to a player playing for a particular school


We need exactly the opposite of this, actually.
Posted by mouse_cop
The South
Member since Aug 2019
2857 posts
Posted on 1/31/24 at 11:09 am to
Classic liberal calling for federal govt to run everything and infringe on states’ rights.
Posted by jonnyanony
Member since Nov 2020
9939 posts
Posted on 1/31/24 at 11:27 am to
It's a private transaction under capitalism. There shouldn't be any law restricting it at any level.
Posted by ukraine_rebel
North Mississippi
Member since Oct 2012
2186 posts
Posted on 1/31/24 at 11:49 am to
The only thing that'll dry up the collectives would be to institute a draft/algorithm system that would eliminate the ability of boosters to influence a recruit's school choice.

This is already done w/ medical school residencies. No reason big-time college athletics can't be run the same way.
Posted by AwgustaDawg
CSRA
Member since Jan 2023
6978 posts
Posted on 1/31/24 at 11:57 am to
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The only thing that'll dry up the collectives would be to institute a draft/algorithm system that would eliminate the ability of boosters to influence a recruit's school choice.

This is already done w/ medical school residencies. No reason big-time college athletics can't be run the same way.




The answer is to make them employees with contracts that forbid them using their association with the school for commecial purposes and keeps them committed unless both parties consent to them leaving. This is not going to happen because the schools want their free labor more than they want any kind of fix.
Posted by ukraine_rebel
North Mississippi
Member since Oct 2012
2186 posts
Posted on 1/31/24 at 12:00 pm to
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The answer is to make them employees with contracts that forbid them using their association with the school for commecial purposes and keeps them committed unless both parties consent to them leaving.


That won't solve a thing other than take things back to the way they were. There would still be reason for boosters to give illegal inducement to recruits to get them to go to their school.
Posted by PeleofAnalytics
Member since Jun 2021
2749 posts
Posted on 1/31/24 at 12:05 pm to
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Classic liberal calling for federal govt to run everything and infringe on states’ rights


I get the need for state's rights but when the vast majority of your "business" is between 2 teams where one has literally crossed state lines, this insistence on each state doing it their own way creates an uneven playing field and a lot of chaos. I am not for some federal law on this but you need cooperation between states to get this thing a bit more standardized.
Posted by SmelvinRat
Slumwoody
Member since Oct 2015
1392 posts
Posted on 1/31/24 at 12:13 pm to
So, this chaos won't normalize until some sort of collective bargaining agreement is reached. Contracts, revenue sharing, stricter portal windows (thinking freee agency in the NFL). Am I way off on this, as I don't claim to be be a labor law expert?
Posted by AwgustaDawg
CSRA
Member since Jan 2023
6978 posts
Posted on 1/31/24 at 12:16 pm to
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That won't solve a thing other than take things back to the way they were. There would still be reason for boosters to give illegal inducement to recruits to get them to go to their school.


There has never been a way to stop that. There has never been a way to stop gamblers from paying players and coaches to shave points and throw games. People bent on breaking rules have always found a way to do so without much risk.
Posted by AwgustaDawg
CSRA
Member since Jan 2023
6978 posts
Posted on 1/31/24 at 12:21 pm to
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So, this chaos won't normalize until some sort of collective bargaining agreement is reached. Contracts, revenue sharing, stricter portal windows (thinking freee agency in the NFL). Am I way off on this, as I don't claim to be be a labor law expert?


I'm not a lawyer either but I think you are spot on. The top 40 or so programs can afford to pay a salary. They aint willing. They have had a free labor force for so long they just can't see their way clear to doing what they should have been doing for at least 40 years.

I know people will say that they receive an education as a salary and some of them do no doubt. The problem with that is those costs are merely entries in a spreadsheet. It doesn't cost a dime for the school to add 85 desks in classrooms across campus. It costs the average student a heaping pile of money to sit in that desk BUT it costs the same if there are 20 in the class or 30...those extra desks don't cost a penny. Even WalMart would be ashamed of that business model....
Posted by Smokeyone
Maryville Tn
Member since Jul 2016
15956 posts
Posted on 1/31/24 at 12:22 pm to
All NIL contracts are between a person and a business not a school

All NIL contracts are per year and contingent on the terms of the NIL agreement (EI you are buying endorsements via the right to use their name image and likeness. The school is not party to the agreement so officially licensed school anything is not permitted without permission of the school)

And national NIL laws are not the answer. The federal government is rarely the answer.
Posted by mizzou waltz
Member since Dec 2018
284 posts
Posted on 1/31/24 at 12:31 pm to
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Need a national nil law


No
Posted by Dallaswho
Member since Dec 2023
832 posts
Posted on 1/31/24 at 12:32 pm to
Upvote for impressive troll.
I don’t think LB3 will be selling a lot of IMO’s pizza and Schnuks potato chips if he leaves Missouri.
Posted by Tiger2tiga
Member since Sep 2023
327 posts
Posted on 1/31/24 at 12:32 pm to
You keep talking about schools paying athletes. Remember schools will have to pay ALL athletes. Only 2 sports really makes money that supplements the other programs. Do you really think schools can afford this?
Posted by gamecox10
Member since Mar 2020
182 posts
Posted on 1/31/24 at 12:34 pm to
They need to get rid of the 85 man roster limit too! That’s damn communism!
Posted by narddogg81
Vancouver
Member since Jan 2012
19698 posts
Posted on 1/31/24 at 12:35 pm to
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It's a private transaction under capitalism. There shouldn't be any law restricting it at any level.
oh, I'm so very liberal, go check me out on the poli board. Every private financial transaction you partake in every day is restricted or regulated at every level of government, and if there were absolutely no regulation it would be absolute anarchy and we would be having great depression level catastrophes regularly. Completely unregulated capitalism is just as bad as pure democracy (ask Socrates how that turns out).

Unfortunately a national law is the only thing that can reign in all these state legislatures that are passing ridiculous nil laws that make it impossible to have a rational nil sphere that also allows for an amateur athletes to profit while allowing an an amateur sport to exist and allow the governmening body of that sport to actually enforce the rules. These contracts definitely effect interstate commerce, so they fall under the jurisdiction of the federal government
Posted by jonnyanony
Member since Nov 2020
9939 posts
Posted on 1/31/24 at 12:47 pm to
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Every private financial transaction you partake in every day is restricted or regulated at every level of government,


No it isn't.
Posted by Smokeyone
Maryville Tn
Member since Jul 2016
15956 posts
Posted on 1/31/24 at 12:51 pm to
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Unfortunately a national law is the only thing that can reign in all these state legislatures that are passing ridiculous nil laws that make it impossible to have a rational nil sphere that also allows for an amateur athletes to profit while allowing an an amateur sport to exist and allow the governmening body of that sport to actually enforce the rules


Knoxville just declared itself an NIL sanctuary city.
Checkmate.
Posted by Smokeys Howl
Member since Oct 2022
1985 posts
Posted on 1/31/24 at 12:53 pm to
How can anyone be so wrong? This is the most retarded threads in the history of retarded threads.
This post was edited on 1/31/24 at 12:54 pm
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