re: To our Big 10 posters

Or how about you look at that first game and what happened.

Lost 14 starters to the draft
New offensive and defensive coordinators
Sayin’s first start

And with all of that beat the #1 team in the country at the time. If you think thats not a good win with all of the scenarios in the first game you’re full of shite

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I'll be sweating if we get SEC refs in playoffs. Not because of homerism.....just bad refs.

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Spend some time in this board and they will post about how shitty their refs are. But is someone from another conference comes in here with the same opinion, they’ll downvote you for it. They are full of shite. Everyone knows their refs are the fricking worst

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You big 10 guys don’t seem capable of being objective you have to pretend the top 3 teams is all that matters because that’s all that’s there.

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Not a big ten guy. I can think about strength of conference objectively. Only one team wins the CFP. The middle gets shite

If anyone uses a poll to determine anything then they deserve what they get in life. These are the same pollsters who had Clemson and FSU ranked highly and about 10 other teams. Polls are a relic to the past kinda like SEC Natties. Just kidding. The playoffs are a crapshoot and having 15 teams ranked by a biased system won’t help the mid level SEC teams win in a playoff system. Maybe you should talk to Sankey about getting back to the BCS and convince the committee it should be the top 2 SEC teams invited each year. This way those worthless teams like Michigan and Ohio State can’t win a playoff like they have been.

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Other than OSU no team in the BIG impresses me.

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IU is a solid football team. Yes, their SoS isn't the best, but it is improving. They are absolutely dominating the teams in front of them.

#1 in SoR
TOP 3 in offensive and defensive FEI

Just a very solid team that has good talent and superior coaching.

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OSU would not go undefeated with sec schedule.

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OSU likely isn’t going undefeated throughout the regular season in the B1G either. But it doesn’t matter any more. Because they will be in the playoffs most times than not

I have the privilege of being from SEC land, living here again (after military and college and a bad marriage took me elsewhere), but I am an Ohio State alum (longer story)..

the dregs of bigten football are bad, like really bad (think UCLA, Wisconsin)
the 2nd tier teams however are good teams, who are not a site win, and depending on the location can beat most teams if they get a few breaks (think Michigan, USC, iowa, washingtonhere, a few others )

their style is boring, but they build their styles around the weather they are gonna play in. the Midwest is unforgivable in the fall, and so a pass happy attack for most isn't really a possibility due to lack of recruiting power. Ohio State can have it all, most have to choose one or the other, and choose boring run, and stout defenses that unfortunately focus on the run.

these new West coast teams are different, and that culture will change is or ours them, probably the latter.

I generally find SEC football more enjoyable to watch, as it's more wide open, and in the past they were definitely far better outside a few top teams.

NIL. has begun to close that gap I think. those schools up there are rich, bigger alum bases, more billionaires who have FU money, (see Indiania and Michigan specifically). just the amount being drafted to the NFL now is near even, where even five years ago the gap was fairly large still.

I've seen MULTIPLE posters here state "Kentucky and miss state can easily win the big ten" no they cant. they would suck there also, cu tbh... they suck.

now, if inhabe to watch a game thats between Ole miss and Tennessee or washington vs iowa, I'm choosing the sec game. make it USC vs Oregon inmay choose that game tho that doesn't exactly mean I think Tennessee is better (they really are not very good this year) than the big ten teams,. just the game will be more entertaining for me under no circumstances am I watching UK vs MISS STATE. ILL go cut the grass in January first

hope that is an honest opinion

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Tier 5 - Michigan

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Lol

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So you could easily argue the sec was just as top heavy as the big ten is now.

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For me, this is the telling thing.

The SEC, when we were winning all the titles...had 5 teams win at least one title and most won at least two.
Auburn(1), Alabama(7), Florida(2), Georgia(2) and LSU(3).

While true, Alabama won more titles than anyone, it is still a fact, that since 2000 five different teams won titles and 4 of those teams won more than one.

Since 2000, only two teams from the B1G have won titles. (Ohio State (3) and Michigan (1), one could argue because of the cheating scandal that Michigan's should have an * beside it.
Then you should consider that two other title winning teams since 2000 has been added to the SEC. (Texas, Oklahoma)

I mean, the ACC has won as many titles since 2000 as the B1G. (FSU (1) Miami (1) and Clemson (2) and did it with more teams.

The reason I mention the different team angle is it bolsters the depth argument.

The argument the Op was making is that the SEC has better teams in the mid to lower parts of the conference, but you want to cut the SEC off at 4, leaving Oklahoma and Tennessee out, which both have decently strong teams. If you match the top 3 B1G teams (Ohio State, Indiana, Oregon) against the top 3 SEC teams(Alabama, Texas A&M, Georgia),...I have no idea who would win and who would lose. The B1G is possibly as strong or stronger than the SEC at the very top. But, once past those top 3 teams, if you matched the next top teams up, the SEC would probably beat every single B1G team head to head on a neutral field.

This is just my opinion, and i understand other opinions may be different, but depth of a conference does make a difference as far as wins and losses are concerned. You have to go all the way back to 1986 to find another team (Penn State) besides Ohio State and Michigan that was strong enough to win a National Championship, and 1965 to find someone outside those three (Michigan State).

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This is just my opinion, and i understand other opinions may be different, but depth of a conference does make a difference as far as wins and losses are concerned. You have to go all the way back to 1986 to find another team (Penn State) besides Ohio State and Michigan that was strong enough to win a National Championship, and 1965 to find someone outside those three (Michigan State).

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You make a good point but who’s to know if a playoff format had existed during the 80’s or 90s that the big ten wouldn’t have won a few more natties? I’m not defending the conference per se but they had some strong Michigan, OSU and Penn State teams back in the day. Teams who lost one game and were left out of the discussion. It’s history now so it adds up to a hill of beans but we just don’t know because hypotheticals