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re: Tim Tebow is a false prophet
Posted on 5/7/21 at 10:18 am to Harry Rex Vonner
Posted on 5/7/21 at 10:18 am to Harry Rex Vonner
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But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you.
Simply means not to grandstand.
Posted on 5/7/21 at 11:08 am to Harry Rex Vonner
I made my username because of members like you
Posted on 5/7/21 at 11:30 am to Harry Rex Vonner
Cherry picking a verse out of context and bending it to fit whatever preconceived notion you have about someone is pretty messed up.
If you want to play that game, Satan quoted scripture to Jesus when he tempted him a few chapters earlier. Food for thought
If you want to play that game, Satan quoted scripture to Jesus when he tempted him a few chapters earlier. Food for thought
Posted on 5/7/21 at 12:30 pm to GatorOnAnIsland
The original bible had the books the Catholic church put there....there have been additions to the bible....even Mark has the additions about snakes. Most bibles will acknowledge these additions.
Posted on 5/7/21 at 12:31 pm to RebelExpress38
That one where Satan tempting Jesus was recording by....someone who wasn't there.
Posted on 5/7/21 at 12:34 pm to Pastor Mike
Not rational ? I will tell you what's not rational. A god who would create a world where innocent children can be raped and killed because he wanted to give the evil he allowed to be....without the interference of free will.....that's what's not rational. You can not call that a loving god....period !!!!!
Posted on 5/7/21 at 12:36 pm to Harry Rex Vonner
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it's the ACTUAL Word of God..
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Matthew 6: 6
How about the original, rather than a translated version?
ETA...crap...Konine Greek didn't paste directly.
This post was edited on 5/7/21 at 2:44 pm
Posted on 5/7/21 at 12:36 pm to DawgsLife
quote:Then god is still the blame because he created the whole situation...knowing it would turn out this way. Tell me where I am wrong !
First, I think you are not fully understanding what free will is. Free will means that man can act of his own volition. God does not step in and stop people from doing...or attempting to do what they want.
Posted on 5/7/21 at 2:25 pm to forestwhitackersgood
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And this is coming from a man who's studied biblical text for over20 years and believes that it's the ACTUAL Word of God.
Well, if God wrote all of that, he sure did contradict himself a lot.
There are a whole bunch of them, but here's an example that refers to family relationships:
“Honor thy father and thy mother…”– Exodus 20:12
“If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple. ” — Luke 14:26
Posted on 5/7/21 at 4:44 pm to MoarKilometers
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campus crusade for Christ
I am pretty familiar with campus Crusade for Christ. They are a really good organization. In fact, if I am not mistaken I had a good friend of mine work with them for awhile.
Posted on 5/7/21 at 4:53 pm to bamameister
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A free moral agent exercising free will in all their life can't be reconciled with a God who has predetermined the outcome before it happens.
but God didn't "predetermine" it. That insinuates that God caused it to happen. He didn't cause it to happen....he just knew HOW it would happen.
For instance...in my illustration above, did my wife cause me choose fried okra over Broccoli? No. But she knew what I would choose.
As for God's instructions to us, it is a clear record of what God intended for us, and the penalty that sin requires.
Like I said...I have discussed and argued the point many times, and never has either side changed their minds.
The main thing I focus on is if someone believes if Jesus is God's Son, came down to earth to live like a man, died for our sins and if we accept Him as lord AND Savior...and allow him to be in control of our lives, we will go to heaven. The rest is window dressing that we don't have to agree with or understand. We can all find out when we make it to heaven. I focus on the one thing that matters....a complete understanding of salvation.
Posted on 5/7/21 at 4:56 pm to jumpstart
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Then god is still the blame because he created the whole situation...knowing it would turn out this way. Tell me where I am wrong !
It was God's fault man chose sin?
Posted on 5/7/21 at 8:46 pm to BrotherDawg84
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Well, if God wrote all of that, he sure did contradict himself a lot. There are a whole bunch of them, but here's an example that refers to family relationships: “Honor thy father and thy mother…”– Exodus 20:12 “If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple. ” — Luke 14:26
You’re out of context. If Jesus literally meant that to be His disciple meant that you must hate your father and mother, He would blatantly be telling someone to break the 5th commandment “honor your father and your mother” which would therefore be Jesus committing sin, which is impossible. 1Peter 2:22, 1JOHN 3:5 etc. In reality and context Jesus was calling His disciples to cultivate such a devotion to Him that their attachment to everything else would seem like hatred in comparison.
Posted on 5/7/21 at 9:09 pm to jumpstart
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The original bible had the books the Catholic church put there....there have been additions to the bible....even Mark has the additions about snakes. Most bibles will acknowledge these additions.
Mark 16:17-20 in not included in some bibles because the older Alexandrian text manuscripts , the Codex Sinaiticus, the Codex Vatican’s, the Armenian translation, and the Latin Bobiensis version and others never had it in them. The ones that include it use the Caesarean text type that is part of the Byzantine text manuscripts P45 and the Textus Receptus etc. There is no “original bible” only manuscripts.
This post was edited on 5/7/21 at 9:24 pm
Posted on 5/7/21 at 9:14 pm to madmaxvol
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How about the original, rather than a translated version?
No original text exist today.
Posted on 5/7/21 at 9:21 pm to jumpstart
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Then god is still the blame because he created the whole situation...knowing it would turn out this way. Tell me where I am wrong !
God cannot be “blamed” because He is perfect and no fault can be found in Him. Ps 18:30 As for God, His way is perfect”
Posted on 5/7/21 at 9:38 pm to GatorOnAnIsland
Should probably just stick to sports here.
Posted on 5/8/21 at 4:38 am to GatorOnAnIsland
Seriously, six pages of retards playing bible lawyer.
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