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re: Those celebrating Vols getting investigated might want to temper your happiness!

Posted on 2/2/24 at 9:23 am to
Posted by DawginSC
Member since Aug 2022
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Posted on 2/2/24 at 9:23 am to
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Show me evidence of this


Really?

If someone didn't brag about Nico getting 2 million dollars a year to go to UT, we wouldn't have all the posts about Nico getting 2 million dollars a year to go to UT.

It might not even be correct, but someone at UT was bragging about it or it wouldn't have come out during his recruitment like it did.


There really aren't any stories about UGA players getting paid to come to UGA. That doesn't mean it's not happening, it just means UGA people aren't being idiots and opening their mouths about it.
Posted by TideWarrior
Asheville/Chapel Hill NC
Member since Sep 2009
11836 posts
Posted on 2/2/24 at 9:23 am to
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Lots of angry, wishful thinking.


Do not get Roberta upset. Lets keep some decorum in here.
Posted by Rip Torner
Member since Jul 2023
550 posts
Posted on 2/2/24 at 9:44 am to
Imagine being dumb enough to believe that Georgia doesn’t do the same things other teams do lol. “They come to Georgia because they love Coach Smart and the University while turning down money from other schools.” That’s a level of stupid that rivals Alabama fans level of delusion
Posted by VFL1800FPD
Nashville, TN
Member since Aug 2012
9056 posts
Posted on 2/2/24 at 9:46 am to
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Really?

If someone didn't brag about Nico getting 2 million dollars a year to go to UT, we wouldn't have all the posts about Nico getting 2 million dollars a year to go to UT.

It might not even be correct, but someone at UT was bragging about it or it wouldn't have come out during his recruitment like it did.


This is a lot of words to say "I do not have any evidence."
Posted by VFL1800FPD
Nashville, TN
Member since Aug 2012
9056 posts
Posted on 2/2/24 at 9:49 am to
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There really aren't any stories about UGA players getting paid to come to UGA. That doesn't mean it's not happening, it just means UGA people aren't being idiots and opening their mouths about it.


Here's your head football coach talking about it at a press conference:

Kirby Smart says Georgia has some of the 'highest paid' players in college football

This post was edited on 2/2/24 at 9:52 am
Posted by DawginSC
Member since Aug 2022
4209 posts
Posted on 2/2/24 at 9:50 am to
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Imagine being dumb enough to believe that Georgia doesn’t do the same things other teams do lol. “They come to Georgia because they love Coach Smart and the University while turning down money from other schools.” That’s a level of stupid that rivals Alabama fans level of delusion


From what I've heard, when it comes to high school players, UGA doesn't have any that sign deals prior to enrolling. While pretty much every UGA player gets some NIL deals, reports suggest the only ones getting big deals are those who are starting, not recruits.

UGA's NIL recruiting strategy is more like this:

1 - If you come to UGA, we'll get you a NIL deal worth 5 figures, even if you're a walk-on.

2 - Those who have success at UGA get big NIL deals (showing examples of exactly that). Those come from having success at UGA though.

UGA seems to have been very cautious about anything resembling "pay to play" when it comes to high school players. Less so with transfers though.
Posted by robvols
Member since Jan 2024
189 posts
Posted on 2/2/24 at 9:51 am to
UGA fans are so exposing themselves that they don't realize their birdie is sticking out because their fly is open.
Posted by Rip Torner
Member since Jul 2023
550 posts
Posted on 2/2/24 at 9:53 am to
Oh from “what you have heard”?! Well I do declare Coach Smart has shared his strategy with such knowledgeable fans as yourself!! I sincerely hope you aren’t serious
Posted by TideWarrior
Asheville/Chapel Hill NC
Member since Sep 2009
11836 posts
Posted on 2/2/24 at 10:52 am to
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There really aren't any stories about UGA players getting paid to come to UGA. That doesn't mean it's not happening, it just means UGA people aren't being idiots and opening their mouths about it.


If you follow the trend the schools where this is happening(being publicized) are the schools that are trying to become relevant.

The information if correct usually is by their fans on places like these type of forums bragging about how much money their alum have and trying to flex. First it was a&m and now it is UT. Both programs trying to keep up with the Jones.

The schools that have been at the top I am sure they are all doing something similar but are not making it public.
Posted by narddogg81
Vancouver
Member since Jan 2012
19703 posts
Posted on 2/2/24 at 2:02 pm to
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The NCAA is approaching everything wrong. They need to come to the table with all of us -- the schools involved in NIL -- and say, "ok, how can we regulate this fairly while complying with NIL laws?
I didn't see why nil laws has anything to do with what the NCAA considers permissible or impermissible. The NCAA is a private organisation, all the participating institutions do so voluntarily. Just because a state says college athlete's can sign nil doesn't mean the NCAA has to consider them eligible based on their own internal rules of competition
This post was edited on 2/2/24 at 2:57 pm
Posted by bigDgator
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2008
41381 posts
Posted on 2/2/24 at 2:13 pm to
I notice you didn't have anything to say when Serraneaux started a thread titled, "FLORIDA IS DONE!"

So quit crying like a little bitch now that you are being investigated. Tennessee has a long history of skirting the rules, many times down in the state of Florida chasing recruits. It would be fitting if you guys get hammered.

How can you not know that flying a kid on a private jet for a recruiting visit wouldn't get you in trouble? I know, I know, It was the NIL people that paid for it. That is like putting your starting tailback on a track scholarship and not counting it for football.

Taking the stance that the rules were not yet clearly defined may work out and it may not. We both know it goes against the spirit of the NIL which from the beginning was not to be used as a recrutiitng tool.
Posted by SaturdayNAthens
Georgia
Member since Dec 2017
10881 posts
Posted on 2/2/24 at 2:14 pm to
UGA recently got a signee who turned down a lot of money to stay at FSU. He said he didn’t care about the money he was being offered. He wanted to be at UGA
UGA doesn’t have to beg or promise big bucks to get a player to come to UGA. Georgia and Athens sell themselves. Players know if you are good enough to get an offer from UGA you are among the best in the country. It’s a honor to be on scholarship there
Posted by LittleJerrySeinfield
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Posted on 2/2/24 at 2:21 pm to
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Those celebrating Vols getting investigated might want to temper your happiness!


Posted by bigDgator
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2008
41381 posts
Posted on 2/2/24 at 2:30 pm to
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UGA recently got a signee who turned down a lot of money to stay at FSU. He said he didn’t care about the money he was being offered. He wanted to be at UGA
UGA doesn’t have to beg or promise big bucks to get a player to come to UGA. Georgia and Athens sell themselves. Players know if you are good enough to get an offer from UGA you are among the best in the country. It’s a honor to be on scholarship there




Posted by VFL1800FPD
Nashville, TN
Member since Aug 2012
9056 posts
Posted on 2/2/24 at 3:11 pm to
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I didn't see why nil laws has anything to do with what the NCAA considers permissible or impermissible. The NCAA is a private organisation, all the participating institutions do so voluntarily. Just because a state says college athlete's can sign nil doesn't mean the NCAA has to consider them eligible based on their own internal rules of competition


It's actually pretty simple. Private organizations cannot enforce illegal rules. The NCAA is not an extra-legal organization. Forcing someone to sign at a school before negotiating an NIL amount violates antitrust laws against horizontal price fixing. It limits an individual's ability to maximize profit from their name, image, and likeness to the benefit of the schools.

You know how PRIVATE businesses have to pay a FEDERAL minimum wage despite them being PRIVATE? It's kinda like that.
This post was edited on 2/2/24 at 3:14 pm
Posted by DawginSC
Member since Aug 2022
4209 posts
Posted on 2/2/24 at 3:16 pm to
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I didn't see why nil laws has anything to do with what the NCAA considers permissible or impermissible. The NCAA is a private organisation, all the participating institutions do so voluntarily. Just because a state says college athlete's can sign nil doesn't mean the NCAA has to consider them eligible based on their own internal rules of competition


Actually the states that have NIL laws are all more restrictive than the NCAA rules.

The NCAA has basically a single rule in regards to NIL. If a player signs a NIL deal that has "inducements" to attend a particular school, the school is required to suspend the player.

If the school doesn't do so, the NCAA can sanction the school.

That's it. The ONLY rule the NCAA has with NIL is that you can't have "pay to play" NIL contracts. It's not correct to think the NCAA rules are more restrictive. The only state laws they are more restrictive than are for those states with no laws.
Posted by VOLcanic
Member since May 2009
207 posts
Posted on 2/2/24 at 4:05 pm to
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It might not even be correct, but someone at UT was bragging about it or it wouldn't have come out during his recruitment like it did.


The California lawyer that helped negotiate on nico’s behalf leaked parts of it to the Athletic with the player and Collective names redacted.
This post was edited on 2/2/24 at 4:29 pm
Posted by SwampyWaters
Member since Apr 2023
1341 posts
Posted on 2/2/24 at 4:28 pm to
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UGA recently got a signee who turned down a lot of money to stay at FSU. He said he didn’t care about the money he was being offered. He wanted to be at UGA


I think you're drinking a little too much Smartorade. They may have gotten a player for a little less money, but they didn't just pay the kid a year's worth of free food at the local Chick-fil-A, either! I'm sure that player was well compensated or Georgia wouldn't have gotten him.

The days of the elite players following their parents path to a particular school are all but gone because the money being tossed around is stupid money. We're not talking thousands of dollars, but millions and millions of dollars!

Remember this: Smart was taught by the best in the business, so he knows how to land (or pay) the best players to come join his program.

Do you recall a few years ago Rush Propst was caught on a recording talking about how Saban would call this money guy if he wanted a certain player in south Alabama and another guy if wanted a player in another part of the state. After it became public, Rush a couple of days later gave some weak arse response stating he was just running his mouth and none of it was true.

Isn't it funny how the University of Alabama, Saban or any of the persons mentioned never once addressed it in public. No one threatened to sue Rush for slander, in fact, not one person mentioned gave a statement or even acknowledged it ever happened. It was conveniently swept underneath the rug and quietly disappeared. Interesting.

The reality is this: ALL THE MAJOR PROGRAMS CHEAT AND THEY ARE ALL PAYING MILLIONS AND MILLIONS OF $$$$ TO LAND THE BEST PLAYERS IN THE COUNTRY!

It's just the price of doing business in college football today.
This post was edited on 2/2/24 at 4:29 pm
Posted by Rip Torner
Member since Jul 2023
550 posts
Posted on 2/2/24 at 6:10 pm to
Lol Homer much?! That’s clinically insane level delusion right there
Posted by Smokeys Howl
Member since Oct 2022
1985 posts
Posted on 2/2/24 at 6:24 pm to
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someone at UT was bragging about it


So your whole basis that there was 'pay to play' is that, and I quote, "someone at UT was bragging about it".

That's it, that's what you've got.

Holy shlt you're a tard.
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