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re: This is interesting.....UGA's listed as a 2.5 pt underdog to Notre Dame on Draft Kings

Posted on 12/10/24 at 8:40 pm to
Posted by PuertoRicanBlaze
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Posted on 12/10/24 at 8:40 pm to
Take ND unless they get the same officiating crew from the UG/Tech game.

Then bet the house on UG.
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 12/10/24 at 8:56 pm to
Stockton didn’t look very good, but it has to be said he was playing the best defense in the country on the biggest possible stage.

ND is built to deal with a QB like him unless he can move the ball downfield.
Posted by DAWG0829
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Posted on 12/10/24 at 9:55 pm to
weird books are out and they still have to make it to us … now pulling for Indiana
Posted by prouddawg
Member since Sep 2024
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Posted on 12/10/24 at 10:20 pm to
For what it’s worth,

Run Defense GA 36 ND 51
Pass Defense GA 50 ND 3
Run Offense GA 98 ND 10
Pass Offense GA 12 ND 101
Strength of Schedule UGA 1 ND 62
Posted by TrNabs
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Posted on 12/10/24 at 11:00 pm to
ND has an excellent run D thats why I also don't want them as much as I don't want Georgia. and Gunner is starting so they think they have an advantage. They're idiots cause Georgia is winning this one moderately easy.

NOTE: I need Georgia to win every game until the finals for personal reasons.
Posted by Emmanuel Goldstein
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Posted on 12/10/24 at 11:29 pm to
Stockton is arse.
Posted by GreatPumpkin
Member since Mar 2022
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Posted on 12/11/24 at 12:09 am to
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Then bet on Georgia. Why is this a thread?
it’s a more interesting topic than most of the shite that y’all post on here
Posted by theballguy
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Posted on 12/11/24 at 7:36 am to
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Y'all were way better with Stockton



Georgia loses Texas 2 if Beck stays in the game.
Posted by GTnerd
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Member since Sep 2023
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Posted on 12/11/24 at 7:43 am to
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Georgia loses Texas 2 if Beck stays in the game.


2nd half Beck is a lot better than first half Beck
Posted by Scoob
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Posted on 12/11/24 at 7:52 am to
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I mean...he's right. They are two very different QBs. Stockton typically runs first. Beck throws first. It definitely makes a difference to a defense.

Yeah, Texas was doing a good job of shutting down Beck's passing game, and he wasn't going to run much.

Stockton came in and ran it well that first drive, took advantage of the "Beck" defense. Texas adjusted but UGA was then able to get their backs going some more.
Not as extreme as what A&M did to LSU with Reed, but similar concept- had the starting offense tied in knots, but the backup changed the scheme and was able to move some.

Unless UGA can prep Stockton to throw for about 220 yds (maybe 16-24 or something like that), this plays into Notre Dame's wheelhouse. They still might not stop them, but it's easier than facing an offense that can pass too.
Posted by Bigdawgb
Member since Oct 2023
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Posted on 12/11/24 at 8:30 am to
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Run Defense GA 36 ND 51
Pass Defense GA 50 ND 3


Thanks for posting. It begs the question, why are people gassing up Notre Dame's 50th ranked run defense?? And not mentioning the 3rd ranked pass D??

I haven't watched ND much this year so, for those that have, are the stats deceptive??
Posted by lewis and herschel
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 12/11/24 at 8:34 am to
UGA SOS #1, Notre Dame SOS #59.

Wonder why the defenses are ranked where they are????

Wish we could play NIU....
Posted by DawgsLife
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Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 12/11/24 at 8:40 am to
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Know all that, but during game prep they run through the plays most likely to be used that week and it is based on QB1. Not qb2 unless they put in a package for him.

All those plays were standard UGA plays released for that game.


Believe what you want, but I can promise you when you have two QBs with such different playing styles on a team and QB1 gets injured the plays released or prepared for that week goes out of the window. The coaching staff wants plays that QB2 can carry off best, not a some pre-canned game plan that QB2 struggles with. Now...is it drastically different? No. But if you believe we were going to run 2-3 QB draws up the middle with Carson Beck, then I don't know what to tell you. The passing game was more limited, and the running game was amped up.
Had Beck been healthy we would have thrown the ball more and run the ball less. Beck would not have run nearly as much. Stockton ran the ball 8 times in the half he played in. Carson Beck ran it twice.
Beck averaged 4 carries a game in 2024, Stockton ran the ball 8 times Saturday. And i can promise you the 8 carries Stockton had were different type runs than Beck would have done. Play calling is just different for two QBs that are so different in style. The gameplan is rewritten when a situation like Saturday pops up.
Posted by AwgustaDawg
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Posted on 12/11/24 at 8:46 am to
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Gonna be even more interesting when UGA ends up playing Indiana.



Indiana may just shock the Irish. Northern Illinois did. ND has had a very light schedule and they sure as hell ain't faced anyone as physical as UGA.
Posted by lewis and herschel
Member since Nov 2009
14012 posts
Posted on 12/11/24 at 8:47 am to
Brooks Austin also confirmed what I said, they can't run the risk of having a missed assignment because they called some play the 2nd team runs vs the 1s in practices. He is playing with the 1s at this point.

Everything Stockton did was out of Beck portfolio of plays..... They can look different but it started as a play put the week before the game. Bobo wasn't sitting there saying, I should waste time putting in plays just in case Beck goes down ...m
Posted by AwgustaDawg
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Posted on 12/11/24 at 8:50 am to
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I'm not saying it affected the outcome of the game, but when you prepare a game plan for an QB and it changes at halftime, it's not as easy as just changing one or two things. There is limited tape on Stockton, there is a lot of tape on Beck.

I do think Texas made a few easy tweaks after the first drive of the second half, as Georgia didn't make a drive like that again all game.



If Texas really did not game plan for UGA to throw screen passes and run between the tackles one has to ask what the hell did Texas game plan for???UGA does not rely on high quality QB play with first round draft picks at wide receiver...they are basically a running team - sometimes instead of handing the ball directly to a back they toss it a little way to someone but in essence most of it is simply a long toss sweep.
Posted by DawgsLife
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Member since Jun 2013
60625 posts
Posted on 12/11/24 at 8:53 am to
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Brooks Austin also confirmed what I said, they can't run the risk of having a missed assignment because they called some play the 2nd team runs vs the 1s in practices. He is playing with the 1s at this point.


The 1s and 2s do not run different plays when preparing for a game. You don't know who or when an injury will happen. You don't run different plays for the 2nd stringers and leave everybody but the QB unprepared.

If you would please post the link where Austin said this. I'd like to listen. Thanks!

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I should waste time putting in plays just in case Beck goes down ...m
You are misunderstanding what I am saying. What I am saying is the team is familiar with the entire playbook. If Beck goes down, Bobo will pull from the playbook plays which are best suited for Stockton. He is not going to go with plays that fit Beck's abilities and tell Stockton to go out there and run them. It would be career suicide. If they were similar in abilities and playing style? Yes. But they are completely different.

Again, if you will send me a link the what brooks Austin said it would be appreciated.
Posted by AwgustaDawg
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Posted on 12/11/24 at 8:54 am to
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My guess it has to do with the loss of our starting QB Beck and the season-ending loss of our starting punter, too, in the SECG. Granted, we're crippled....but, it didn't seem to matter vs. Texas as the Longhorns found out.

ND had a bad day vs. Northern Illinois, but they've won the rest of their games by pretty big margins.

Still. The Dawgs -2.5 to Notre Dame? A bit weird.



In 2017 UGA traveled to South Bend without nearly the talent they have this year and started a freshman QB and managed to somehow beat almighty Notre Dame who was favored by far more than 2.5. The difference between that team and this one is a matter of cohesion.....that seemed to change a bit offensively when Beck went down and everyone had to step up a little. Don't know if that is sustainable through 3 games but it would be unwise to assume it doesn't carry over for 3 weeks until UGA plays again. There is a sense of urgency in Athens right now....Kirby Smart teams tend to answer that call with a brutal physical pummeling of anyone in their way....
Posted by AwgustaDawg
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Posted on 12/11/24 at 8:55 am to
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UGA = the little engine that could



Better than the big engine that can't, hasn't and never will.....
Posted by AwgustaDawg
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Posted on 12/11/24 at 8:58 am to
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The big difference to me was Etienne breaking loose.


This was going to happen. UGAs defense kept UGA in the game and eventually the physicality of the UGA offensive line took its toll. The TD in OT was something everybody watching knew was coming and the hole was big enough to march the entire stadium through.
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