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re: This Is About LSU Weaponizing The Louisiana Justice System to Fight the SEC

Posted on 9/9/26 at 8:35 am to
Posted by supersaints9
Colleyville,Tx
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 9/9/26 at 8:35 am to
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The judge who ruled Luis eligible? The judge who ruled Wright and Harris eligible? Both Louisiana judges. LSU fans themselves boasted and bragged that this is just how things are in Louisiana.


The players involved were potential LSU players. Should the proceedings be held in Idaho? If so then why didn’t OM follow that same course of action getting Chambliss cleared and seek a court in Boise for the proceedings?
Posted by captdalton
Member since Feb 2021
26432 posts
Posted on 9/9/26 at 8:36 am to
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If this is because the SEC doesn't like Louisiana politics getting involved, fine, and the other members are more than welcome to expel us from the conference over that,


You did a much better and succinct job of pointing out what is one of the main issues, perhaps the biggest issue.

The SEC does not like Louisiana politics being injected into the SEC.
Posted by lsusteve1
Member since Dec 2004
48950 posts
Posted on 9/9/26 at 8:37 am to
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NWLA_Bama


Stopped reading at this
Posted by captdalton
Member since Feb 2021
26432 posts
Posted on 9/9/26 at 8:37 am to
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The players involved were potential LSU players.


So you admit that LSU and Kiffin did recruit them when they were still on an NFL preseason roster.

That is what the SEC is suing LSU over.
Posted by UpToPar
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
23325 posts
Posted on 9/9/26 at 8:38 am to
That's fine. Just don't piss on my boot and tell me it's raining. We can stop pretending this is about confirming the SEC's right to enforce it's rules. This isn't about rules.
Posted by Dotarian
Midwest
Member since Oct 2012
1757 posts
Posted on 9/9/26 at 8:39 am to
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LSU signed off on the rules and then proceeded to try and break them.
This is another issue for LSU. The other members believe Rousse knew that LSU intended to break the rule and that is why he abstained from voting on the penalties.

Wrong on many levels, but only one really matters...

At the time, LSU wasn't actually breaking any rules and hadn't broken any rules up to that point. You can't "convict" someone for "thinking about" breaking the rules at some later date (even if you could magically conjure up some thought police to prove such a thing actually happened).

Politically, you may be right from the perspective of power dynamics between the SEC schools. They might be tired of Kiffin pushing the boundaries but never getting "caught" (or punished) for audacity (or creativeness, depending on whether or not he's YOUR coach at the time).

But IMO that's not the case here. Lane was trying to be Lane and get every legal (if somewhat morally dubious) advantage possible for his team. Butthurt about that? Fine. But Sankey took it to another level, tried to show everyone how powerful he was and got humiliated on the stand (and under oath) when he couldn't define - or even explain - the rules that Kiffin had somehow transgressed.

For Sankey, this is now a blood vendetta against LSU to sooth his ego, and he's rage-baited the rest of the SEC into following his lead (pay no attention to the other SEC schools who broke the same nebulous, poorly defined rules with no consequences).

There was not a single rule, law or bylaw broken by LSU. They only thing Sankey (and the other SEC schools if you're right) have is that LSU was "thinking about" breaking the rules.

If THAT is what gets LSU kicked out of the SEC then it's not a "conference" any more, and the rest of the schools should run away as fast as possible because they could be next to get the death penalty for "thinking about" breaking the rules.

JMO
Posted by lsusteve1
Member since Dec 2004
48950 posts
Posted on 9/9/26 at 8:39 am to
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The SEC does not like Louisiana politics being injected into the SEC.


Then get leadership that knows what the hell they’re doing instead of being reactive

Sankey showed how inept he was during questioning

Also, enforce the rules evenly and stop allowing local judges to influence said rules
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
53609 posts
Posted on 9/9/26 at 8:39 am to
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So you admit that LSU and Kiffin did recruit them when they were still on an NFL preseason roster.




This is about as much “proof” as the SEC has to backup their claims.
Posted by lsusteve1
Member since Dec 2004
48950 posts
Posted on 9/9/26 at 8:40 am to
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So you admit that LSU and Kiffin did recruit them when they were still on an NFL preseason roster.


Recruit? No
Maybe offer advice

And they weren’t the only school to do so
Posted by King
Deep in the backwoods
Member since Sep 2008
18703 posts
Posted on 9/9/26 at 8:42 am to
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You typed a bunch of "but muh feelings." If this is because the SEC doesn't like Louisiana politics getting involved, fine, and the other members are more than welcome to expel us from the conference over that, but don't pretend that this is just about the SEC trying to enforce it's rules. No rules were broken.


The problem is that the NCAA has been made toothless with lawsuits. There are no rules at the moment. The SEC and B1G are trying to enforce some compliance with its member institutions. LSU with Wade and Kiffin are going to extremes. Look at the totality of it. LSU is making a mockery of it all. You can only look bad with your actions so many times before they bite you in the arse.
Posted by supersaints9
Colleyville,Tx
Member since Dec 2009
20163 posts
Posted on 9/9/26 at 8:43 am to
We will see how this all shakes out , but there seems to be high levels of hypocrisy , double standards,and butthurt behind all of this . The 2 main crusaders in this are the grandma from Tennessee and OM. It’s crazy to believe that’s the direction this conference has taken , but here we are.
Listen I know you have your LSU obsession agenda to get to so I won’t keep you, but when this is calling the shots and making headway against one of the top programs in this conference and a founding member since 1933 then everyone should be eyes wide open.



Posted by captdalton
Member since Feb 2021
26432 posts
Posted on 9/9/26 at 8:43 am to
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That's fine. Just don't piss on my boot and tell me it's raining. We can stop pretending this is about confirming the SEC's right to enforce it's rules. This isn't about rules.


But it ultimately is about breaking the rules. It is about LSU saying I am bigger than the SEC and your rules don’t apply to me. And we will use the Louisiana court system to override the SEC.

It also doesn’t help that Landry invited outside investors into the SEC. It has not happened, but it was made clear that LSU would sell a stake in the SEC if it benefits them.
Posted by King
Deep in the backwoods
Member since Sep 2008
18703 posts
Posted on 9/9/26 at 8:45 am to
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Lane was trying to be Lane and get every legal (if somewhat morally dubious) advantage possible for his team. Butthurt about that? Fine. But Sankey took it to another level, tried to show everyone how powerful he was and got humiliated on the stand (and under oath) when he couldn't define - or even explain - the rules that Kiffin had somehow transgressed.


You forget about Wade?

You guys are doing it in both sports. You guys dont get it do you? You have sold your soul and gone morally bankrupt. The ends justify the means huh.
Posted by UpToPar
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
23325 posts
Posted on 9/9/26 at 8:46 am to
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But it ultimately is about breaking the rules.


You just said it was about Louisiana politics getting involved? This is what I mean. It constantly changes to fit a narrative. Which rules were broken here? Please be specific.
Posted by supersaints9
Colleyville,Tx
Member since Dec 2009
20163 posts
Posted on 9/9/26 at 8:48 am to
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You forget about Wade? You guys are doing it in both sports. You guys dont get it do you? You have sold your soul and gone morally bankrupt. The ends justify the means huh.


The NCAA ruled them eligible. Not LSU. Some of you are out there . Like way out there
Posted by stopitnow1
Florida
Member since Mar 2013
2939 posts
Posted on 9/9/26 at 8:49 am to
You are definitely a demoncrat
Posted by bamameister
Right here, right now
Member since May 2016
17535 posts
Posted on 9/9/26 at 8:50 am to
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LSU on the other hand has indicated they will fight.


LSU reminds me of Canada. You're going to starve to death, but let's go down swinging.
Posted by gladchiefisgone
Member since Sep 2010
2211 posts
Posted on 9/9/26 at 8:51 am to
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A couple of years ago, the state of Tennessee sued the NCAA


They also went before a Knoxville judge trying to an extra year for last year's starting QB Joey Aguilar and was shot down by their hometown courts...You failed to mention that....And name another hometown judge in the SEC that shot down one of their own the past several years?
Posted by Dotarian
Midwest
Member since Oct 2012
1757 posts
Posted on 9/9/26 at 8:53 am to
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You forget about Wade?

You guys are doing it in both sports. You guys dont get it do you? You have sold your soul and gone morally bankrupt. The ends justify the means huh.
Nope, didn't forget about him. But you're the one that didn't get it.

The point - again - is that LSU did NOT break any rules with THIS case.

And, point 2, is that selectively persecuting LSU for doing what other SEC schools have done (and continue to do) is a poor choice that opens the rest of the SEC up to countersuits for that selective enforcement of the rules.

And, point 3, if the only tangible thing the rest of the SEC can hang their hat on was that LSU was "thinking about" breaking the rules at some other date - well, does that sit well with you? What happens when the thought police come for the Arkansas program?

Nope. This isn't Cuba, or Russia, or Cambodia under Pol Pot. Thought crimes aren't a thing here. You've let yourself be rage-baited by Sankey into doing what he wants with impunity, while ignoring the fact that it could easily be your team/program/university that he comes for next if this is allowed to stand.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
78328 posts
Posted on 9/9/26 at 8:53 am to
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You guys dont get it do you? You have sold your soul and gone morally bankrupt. The ends justify the means huh.


In the current world of college sports, yes, it does.

There is no moral high ground and you can’t argue moral superiority and “maintaining amateur sports” with a roster being paid millions.
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