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re: This era of college football is sadly gone forever
Posted on 6/30/26 at 1:55 pm to Jrv2damac
Posted on 6/30/26 at 1:55 pm to Jrv2damac
Call it what you want, but College Football is now nothing but "Semi-Pro Minor League" football.
The NFL just needs go ahead and initiate an Official Semi-Pro Minor League like in Baseball.
Right out of high school, start out in A, AA or AAA. Play for 3-4 years and move on to the NFL.
Let those that want a College Degree play College Football before moving on to their chosen non-football careers.
The NFL just needs go ahead and initiate an Official Semi-Pro Minor League like in Baseball.
Right out of high school, start out in A, AA or AAA. Play for 3-4 years and move on to the NFL.
Let those that want a College Degree play College Football before moving on to their chosen non-football careers.
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Posted on 6/30/26 at 5:01 pm to NewBeginnings
They were already compensated with things of great value and they did so voluntarily. With the opportunity to turn that training into a professional career.
I don’t subscribe to your A and B choice. Universities and Athletic Departments are not employers of college football players. If they ever decide to officially change it to an employee/employer situation, that A and B scenario would be relevant. But as of now, it remains an institutional/grantee relationship where a swap is made. The University swaps all of the perks and benefits in OP for a guy’s commitment to play a sport.
If they ever change the relationship to employee/employee and do away with the preceding perks and benefits and make A or B a choice, option A is obvious. But that is not the case now. They were already traded items of great value for their potential/realized contributions under the institutional/grantee system.
I don’t subscribe to your A and B choice. Universities and Athletic Departments are not employers of college football players. If they ever decide to officially change it to an employee/employer situation, that A and B scenario would be relevant. But as of now, it remains an institutional/grantee relationship where a swap is made. The University swaps all of the perks and benefits in OP for a guy’s commitment to play a sport.
If they ever change the relationship to employee/employee and do away with the preceding perks and benefits and make A or B a choice, option A is obvious. But that is not the case now. They were already traded items of great value for their potential/realized contributions under the institutional/grantee system.
Posted on 6/30/26 at 9:49 pm to Dirk Dawgler
The difference is that college football was making billions off of uncompensated players. If the universities were turning those profits into scholarships or education, that would be different.
What you are describing is like an apprenticeship. For example, a master carpenter takes on an 18 year old kid. Pays him next to nothing but gives him the benefit of learning the trade so that he can become a professional carpenter one day. Master carpenter deals with learning mistakes and doesn’t make a ton of money from the inexperienced kid working under him.
That is not what college football was. It was 18-22 year olds with elite talent already. They just couldn’t be compensated for it bc the system kept their profit.
What you are describing is like an apprenticeship. For example, a master carpenter takes on an 18 year old kid. Pays him next to nothing but gives him the benefit of learning the trade so that he can become a professional carpenter one day. Master carpenter deals with learning mistakes and doesn’t make a ton of money from the inexperienced kid working under him.
That is not what college football was. It was 18-22 year olds with elite talent already. They just couldn’t be compensated for it bc the system kept their profit.
Posted on 7/1/26 at 8:05 am to NewBeginnings
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The difference is that college football was making billions off of uncompensated players.
They were compensated well into the 6 figures. They received free tuition, free housing, free food, free clothes, free healthcare, a monetary stipend, and a televised tryout every weekend for a future employer. This bullshite about them being poor enslaved servants is just false. Not to mention the main thing people constantly overlook...this is AMATEUR ATHLETICS. No differnet than the local middle school. Until you go professional and get paid as if it's your job, you're an amateur. As in...not paid.
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college football was making billions
and? So fricking what? Should the janitor or the cafeteria worker at google or tesla make $500K a year simply becuase their compnay is doing well? The logo on the helmet is the product. I didn't go to UGA games because brock bowers was on the team, I went becuase I'm a fan of UGA football. SC fans sold out the stadium every game during a 21 game losing streak. Professional football is where you get sidewalk jersey-wearers that pull for speicfic players, college is much more prevalent to have people actually support the university and the program itself through good or bad.
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What you are describing is like an apprenticeship.
well, they're amateurs.
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For example, a master carpenter takes on an 18 year old kid. Pays him next to nothing but gives him the benefit of learning the trade so that he can become a professional carpenter one day. Master carpenter deals with learning mistakes and doesn’t make a ton of money from the inexperienced kid working under him.
Piss poor example since the apprecntice is actually going to work, a job. A better example would be a college student going to SCHOOL to learn how to be a carpenter. Should be be paid significant money simply for going to schooll and learning the trade?
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It was 18-22 year olds with elite talent already. They just couldn’t be compensated for it bc the system kept their profit.
exactly as it should be. Now that they are being compensated there is no difference in "college" football and the pros, which sucks dick. Why anyone would want to make the greatest sport on earth less like what it made it that way, and more like the soulless corporate entertainment mega-industry that is the NFL is beyond me. If you want to be a fan of pro athletes there was already an outlet for you.
Posted on 7/1/26 at 8:46 am to captdalton
That’s exactly how I feel
Posted on 7/1/26 at 10:53 am to WG_Dawg
Nobody wanted it this way. The players sued and a court agreed with them. You are yelling to no one.
But now that we are here there are 2 options- 1) deal with it and root for your team like you’ve been doing, or 2) whine year after year while threatening to stop watching.
I didn’t want it this even though I love the portal and have no problem with everyone now being paid. My problem was with the NCAA for decades letting certain teams cheat while hammering lesser caliber teams. You can’t have a fair sport with different levels of rules. Right now is the first time every team in college football is playing by the same rules - because there are no rules so teams can’t cheat rules that don’t exist.
But now that we are here there are 2 options- 1) deal with it and root for your team like you’ve been doing, or 2) whine year after year while threatening to stop watching.
I didn’t want it this even though I love the portal and have no problem with everyone now being paid. My problem was with the NCAA for decades letting certain teams cheat while hammering lesser caliber teams. You can’t have a fair sport with different levels of rules. Right now is the first time every team in college football is playing by the same rules - because there are no rules so teams can’t cheat rules that don’t exist.
Posted on 7/1/26 at 1:04 pm to RunningJacket
With the Federal government now involved, we are at the mercy of people with real power making decisions for the teams we support.
There is a finite number of eyeballs available for College ball on Saturdays. The NFL wants its exclusive farm system to remain intact and free. Fox, ABC, CBS, ESPN do not want to pay more.
The save College Football Bill will pass and Sankey and Petiti will be defanged and not a damn thing they can do about it.
Now, go enjoy your Saturdays and quit worrying about what you have no control.
There is a finite number of eyeballs available for College ball on Saturdays. The NFL wants its exclusive farm system to remain intact and free. Fox, ABC, CBS, ESPN do not want to pay more.
The save College Football Bill will pass and Sankey and Petiti will be defanged and not a damn thing they can do about it.
Now, go enjoy your Saturdays and quit worrying about what you have no control.
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