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re: This coming back from “NFL” to CFB is a ONE TIME THING. Chill the F out.
Posted on 8/30/26 at 11:08 am to Lonnie Utah
Posted on 8/30/26 at 11:08 am to Lonnie Utah
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No. It's EXACTLY the same argument. Why? Because the NCAA made the announcement AFTER the end of the academic year and specifically said it didn't retroactively apply. I don't know why folks can't understand that.
That’s not the same argument at all. The fact that the NCAA announced the change after the academic year and said it wasn’t retroactive doesn’t establish that the previous restriction was lawful—it only establishes the effective date of the new rule. You can’t use the old rule as proof that players were properly denied eligibility when the very legality of that restriction is what’s being challenged. And if your argument is that every former player should get the same remedy, that’s a separate policy question. It doesn’t somehow prove that the current group has no legal claim.
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Posted on 8/30/26 at 11:09 am to Covingtontiger77
If you think it a one time thing you are very, very, very dumb. It is not, will not be, so stop. It will be the norm in 5 years.
Posted on 8/30/26 at 11:11 am to Lonnie Utah
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The NCAA sets the rules for NCAA institutions and players. When these guys entered college, those rules allowed 4 seasons, not 5. The NCAA later changed the rules and excluded this class after they graduated. The NCAA absolutely has the authority to make and change their eligibility rules. Whether you (or the courts) think that transition was fair is a completely different argument.
Nobody is disputing that the NCAA can make and change its rules. That’s a straw man. The issue is whether the NCAA can use a rule that was later found unlawful to permanently deny a remedy to players who were subject to it. “The rule said four seasons when they enrolled” doesn’t answer that question—it simply describes the rule being challenged.
And saying the NCAA “excluded this class” assumes the very point in dispute. If the underlying restriction was unlawful, the NCAA doesn’t get to make it lawful simply by saying the players had already graduated. Authority to make rules isn’t authority to enforce an unlawful rule.
Posted on 8/30/26 at 11:17 am to Lonnie Utah
Appreciate the well outlined explanation.
Posted on 8/30/26 at 11:21 am to Quicksilver
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I actually don't think it will be a one time thing. What will happen is players will declare for the draft, not get drafted, and then TRO their way back into CFB. There's established precedence now.
the next round of TRO's from activated judges will force the NCAA and conferences to start baking cakes -
Posted on 8/30/26 at 11:22 am to BZ504
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Saban would have tried to do this and it would be okay. Kiffin doing it (also others), #JustDifferent
Hmmm I can't imagine why anyone would give the benefit of the doubt to Nick Saban over Lane Kiffin
Posted on 8/30/26 at 11:23 am to SouthernInsanity
24/7 will soon have to do a recruiting ranking for judges most likely to issue injunctions.
Posted on 8/30/26 at 11:29 am to wm72
It will not be a one-time thing. These losers that cannot make it in the NFL will keep their little money train going until somebody puts a stop to it. So indefinitely
This post was edited on 8/30/26 at 11:30 am
Posted on 8/30/26 at 11:31 am to Covingtontiger77
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this only would apply to class of 2022 guys.
Guess that depends on the ruling and the precedent it sets.
If it goes the way of not being able to deny players the pursuit of fnancial opportunities (making an attempt for the NFL), then a lot of marginal draft tier athletes may test the waters as UDFA and enter minicamps after their 4th year and later attempt a 5th year of college if it doesn't pan out.
Also, the entire arbitrary age cap may very well come into question.
It is all a mess. The courts (more so the lawyers) should stay out of it. Let the members of the organization decide the rules for their organization if we like their rules or not.
Posted on 8/30/26 at 11:36 am to somethingdifferent
quote:What’s the logic here?
40 players got screwed out of their last year to play
How were they screwed?
Posted on 8/30/26 at 11:38 am to That LSU Guy
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That argument is a false equivalence. The 2022 players are different because the NCAA subsequently changed the eligibility framework. The question isn't whether everyone who ever played deserves another year; it's whether 2022 players were unfairly caught between the old and new systems while similarly situated players received five years.
The 5 for 5 ruling was made in June. These players had plenty of time to not show up for NFL minicamps. Instead they decided to pursue the NFL instead of college. They went through camp. Went through the preseason.
They didn’t suddenly want to return to college until they were cut by an NFL team.
If these players had truly wanted to return to college they had every opportunity to do so before they decided to become NFL players.
If anything the players that came before them have an even better argument than them because they didn’t have the opportunity at all.
What this is now is a contingency plan and money grab.
Posted on 8/30/26 at 11:40 am to Covingtontiger77
Can't close a volcano. It won't ever end until there is a cba.
Posted on 8/30/26 at 11:41 am to That LSU Guy
quote:What about 2021 guys who went pro after 4 seasons?
The question is whether the NCAA could legally deny them one under the new rules.
Posted on 8/30/26 at 11:48 am to kajunman
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Can't close a volcano. It won't ever end until there is a cba.
At the heart of most LSU fans’ argument is that since some laws are dumb, and some people break the law, all laws should be eliminated.
Posted on 8/30/26 at 11:54 am to captdalton
IMO sadly, there will be new ways to circumvent the rules because of judge or court interventions every year. It'll never go back to me, an LSU fan hating Bama for all the right reasons (on the field scores and recruiting). All the judge, nil and court crap usurps what was once the best 4 months of the year.
Posted on 8/30/26 at 12:01 pm to Covingtontiger77
Is it though?
Posted on 8/30/26 at 12:31 pm to captdalton
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The 5 for 5 ruling was made in June. These players had plenty of time to not show up for NFL minicamps. Instead they decided to pursue the NFL instead of college. They went through camp. Went through the preseason.
That is not exactly correct, especially for players who had already exhausted their four years of eligibility. Yes in June, the NCAA approved its new five-year/age-based eligibility system. However, players who entered college in 2022 and had already used four seasons were excluded from receiving an additional year.
That distinction matters. The NCAA changed the rule in June, but those particular players were not granted a fifth year in June. Under the NCAA rules in effect at the time, their college eligibility was over.
So they weren't choosing the NFL over a guaranteed fifth season of college football. As far as the NCAA was concerned, they had no fifth season available to them. Pursuing the NFL was their remaining path if they wanted to continue playing football.
The situation changed later because of the the July 31 ruling from a federal judge in Colorado granted an injunction that opened the door for certain players from the 2022 class to receive a fifth year of eligibility.
So the timeline matters
Posted on 8/30/26 at 12:37 pm to Covingtontiger77
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2) no one that makes an NFL roster is going back to CFB
You’re telling me someone drafted late and offered a million per year wouldn’t come back for a season to make 2-3 million? Especially if the NFL contract doesn’t have any guaranteed money included?
I honestly feel the biggest issue is that this isn’t someone who went to the draft, went undrafted or drafted so late that they asked to come back; they made a team and practiced with them outside of the rules set for college players.
I still don’t blame LSU for testing the waters, but I also think it’s unrealistic to believe that this will not set a precedent that gets exploited in the future if it goes through.
Posted on 8/30/26 at 12:37 pm to kajunman
quote:This is correct
IMO sadly, there will be new ways to circumvent the rules because of judge or court interventions every year. It'll never go back to me, an LSU fan hating Bama for all the right reasons (on the field scores and recruiting). All the judge, nil and court crap usurps what was once the best 4 months of the year.
Posted on 8/30/26 at 12:48 pm to ColoradoAg
Look at the last 2 weeks. You don't see any fans talking smack about our qb is better than yours because, fill in the blank. Aggy fans should be talking about how great Elko (really good hire for Aggy) is. Bama and Georgia fans should be arguing who's the cream of the crop in the SEC. But, no. It's all TRO's and injunctions and more blah blah blah.
I hope during the season we can get back to respectable hating each other again.
I hope during the season we can get back to respectable hating each other again.
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