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This article from The Montgomery Advertiser makes Harsin appear to be a bad guy

Posted on 2/5/22 at 3:06 pm
Posted by BLG
Georgia
Member since Mar 2018
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Posted on 2/5/22 at 3:06 pm
If these things are true, then it's far worse than an affair. Far be it from me to defend Auburn, but its fans probably don't deserve this.

A few excerpts:

In his first season as Auburn football coach, Bryan Harsin created a divisive culture in which relationships with certain players were neglected and staff members felt ignored, according to multiple sources with direct knowledge of the inner workings of the Auburn football program under Harsin.

“All the issues in the (Auburn) program have to do with the head coach,” one source told The Advertiser. “He treated players and coaches poorly. He couldn’t empathize with players. He wasn’t genuine. And he ran off many of his best players.”

The source described Harsin's program as "toxic" and "dysfunctional."

The player discourse began with an Instagram post Friday morning by defensive lineman Lee Hunter, who transferred to UCF. "The reason I chose to leave Auburn (was) because we got treated like we wasn't good enough and like dogs. ... Coach Harsin has the true mindset for a winner but has a terrible mindset as a person.

A current player, who spoke to The Advertiser on condition of anonymity Friday, said in a direct message that "we don't get treated like dogs" and that the rift is because some players are "just not used to his mentality."

"Don't believe the things you see," edge Derick Hall tweeted Friday. "@CoachHarsin works harder than no other man to put this program in the best position to be successful. ... Great man of character who loves this team!"

Nineteen Auburn players have entered the transfer portal since the end of the season.

Multiple sources said Harsin would not speak to players he didn’t like when he wanted them out of the program. He would cut off correspondence with the player and family members.

Position coaches were tasked with telling players Harsin wanted out that they should leave the program.

"He's going to send somebody else to do the dirty work," one source said.

Another source recalled one instance of a player texting Harsin to apologize for a poor performance in a game. The player asked for guidance on how he could improve. Harsin did not reply to the text message. Instead, he had the player’s position coach call the player to tell him he needed to leave the program.

A source said Harsin made efforts to relate to players like the ones he had at Boise State – often from a working-class white demographic – but did not always make the same effort to connect with others – often Black players from urban areas in the South. However, the source said they never heard Harsin use racist remarks or language.

When leading wide receiver Kobe Hudson entered the transfer portal in January, he tweeted, "He from the north I understood him, I’m from the south he didn’t understand me," without naming Harsin. He transferred to UCF to play for former Auburn coach Gus Malzahn.

"There are sometimes players that are going through personal things that (Harsin) knows about, and he doesn't have empathy for those situations," one source said. "Whether it be a kid from a single-parent family, or a kid who's going through struggles in life. I don't think he has true empathy for kids."

"How do you expect a young man to grow when you don't even talk to them," another source said, "or if you talk down to them, or if you tell them to get out of your office?"

A source also said Harsin hated the concept of name, image and likeness and made that clear to players. Harsin was particularly critical of players from low-income families who received money from NIL deals because he thought they lost their focus on football, one source added.

Derek Mason, who was hired as defensive coordinator at the start of Harsin's tenure, left after one season for the same position at Oklahoma State. Mike Bobo was fired after one season as offensive coordinator. Bobo's replacement, Austin Davis, resigned after 43 days. Defensive line coach Nick Eason left for Clemson in early January.

Sources said Harsin was often quick to dismiss input from assistants. Four games into the season, he fired Cornelius Williams, a young and respected receivers coach from Alabama who had stints at Troy, South Alabama, North Alabama, Jacksonville State and UAB.

Sources were puzzled by Williams' firing, and Harsin didn't widely provide a reason for it, the sources said. But the decision removed from the staff a coach who connected well with players — something Harsin couldn't afford.

"(Williams) did nothing but did his damn job," one source said. "He had a great relationship with the players."

Harsin replaced him by promoting offensive analyst Eric Kiesau, who was an assistant coach for Harsin at Boise State. When Mason left for Oklahoma State in January, Harsin promoted linebackers coach Jeff Schmedding, another former Boise State assistant.

Harsin spoke with ESPN.com on Thursday night, saying that "any attack on my character is bulls---" and that he is isn't planning on leaving.

"I'm the Auburn coach, and that's how I'm operating every day," Harsin told ESPN.com. "I want this thing to work, and I've told our players and told everybody else there is no Plan B."

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Posted by ThaiTiger24
Member since Jan 2016
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Posted on 2/5/22 at 3:13 pm to
I truly hate Harsin and can’t wait until he is fired.
He has no ability to truly lead and he is a shitty coach on top of that - seems to live in a bubble and can’t relate to anyone. Kirby Smart has more personality than him.
Posted by ColdTurkey
Where the Buffalo roam...
Member since Nov 2019
7544 posts
Posted on 2/5/22 at 3:15 pm to
quote:

Four games into the season, he fired Cornelius Williams, a young and respected receivers coach from Alabama who had stints at Troy, South Alabama, North Alabama, Jacksonville State and UAB. Sources were puzzled by Williams' firing, and Harsin didn't widely provide a reason for it, the sources said. But the decision removed from the staff a coach who connected well with players — something Harsin couldn't afford. "(Williams) did nothing but did his damn job," one source said. "He had a great relationship with the players."

quote:

"I'm the Auburn coach, and that's how I'm operating every day," Harsin told ESPN.com. "I want this thing to work, and I've told our players and told everybody else there is no Plan B."


Baby Williams-Harsin on the way boys
This post was edited on 2/5/22 at 3:17 pm
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
57617 posts
Posted on 2/5/22 at 3:15 pm to
quote:

However, the source said they never heard Harsin use racist remarks or language.


Why is this even being mentioned then? People looking to be offended.
Posted by NorthGwinnettTiger
Member since Jun 2006
51817 posts
Posted on 2/5/22 at 3:16 pm to
Not a big fan of Harsin with the blown leads and shite recruiting. But if these are bullshite internet rumors, and an innocent girl got smeared for it, someone needs a country arse whoopin.
Posted by Leto II
Arrakis
Member since Dec 2018
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Posted on 2/5/22 at 3:17 pm to
quote:

Why is this even being mentioned then?


There’s been rumors of some racism
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
64399 posts
Posted on 2/5/22 at 3:18 pm to
Who’s apt to be more honest?

1. A player who’s but hurt and left for another program and said things like this….
quote:

The player discourse began with an Instagram post Friday morning by defensive lineman Lee Hunter, who transferred to UCF. "The reason I chose to leave Auburn (was) because we got treated like we wasn't good enough and like dogs. ... Coach Harsin has the true mindset for a winner but has a terrible mindset as a person.


Or

2. A players who are still there saying things like this?
quote:

A current player, who spoke to The Advertiser on condition of anonymity Friday, said in a direct message that "we don't get treated like dogs" and that the rift is because some players are "just not used to his mentality."

"Don't believe the things you see," edge Derick Hall tweeted Friday. "@CoachHarsin works harder than no other man to put this program in the best position to be successful. ... Great man of character who loves this team!"


Sounds like he’s separating the wheat from the chaff.


Posted by BLG
Georgia
Member since Mar 2018
7131 posts
Posted on 2/5/22 at 3:18 pm to
I admit that till I read this article I was kind of on Harsin's side because I don't think an affair between 2 consenting adults should be reason to fire a guy, though I realize the fact she is a subordinate will get a guy fired nearly every time.

This article, though, which I only just now read, makes him appear to be nearly impossible to work with, assistant coaches and players alike. Not sure you can fire a guy with cause, though, just because he's an a-hole.
Posted by tgrmeat
Member since Sep 2020
4322 posts
Posted on 2/5/22 at 3:18 pm to
Never met the guy but it sounds like he may lack the people skills needed for his chosen profession.
Posted by RelentlessTide
Member since Feb 2020
2903 posts
Posted on 2/5/22 at 3:19 pm to
The Montgomery Advertiser is an Auburn mouthpiece. Sounds like a few disgruntled players and coaches who aren’t use yo being held accountable.
Posted by ThaiTiger24
Member since Jan 2016
4117 posts
Posted on 2/5/22 at 3:19 pm to
Or maybe everyone is jumping ship because he is a terrible person. Toxic people make bad bosses and bad leaders - just about every toxic person probably has someone in their corner because toxic people have favorites - that’s how they operate.
This post was edited on 2/5/22 at 3:21 pm
Posted by Wildcat1996
Lexington, KY
Member since Jul 2020
5909 posts
Posted on 2/5/22 at 3:20 pm to
Auburn big money alums play dirty and for keeps.

Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
64399 posts
Posted on 2/5/22 at 3:21 pm to
quote:

Or maybe everyone is jumping ship because he is a terrible person


So you believe everything you read on the internet I see. Sorry, kid. I’ve been around long enough to hold judgment on these things. Until I see some proof of any of this, I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt.
Posted by ThaiTiger24
Member since Jan 2016
4117 posts
Posted on 2/5/22 at 3:23 pm to
I believe what the former players said who left the program. I believe what the former coaches have said about him.
He lost five in a row because he is a shittt coach. He didn’t sign anyone last week because no one likes him and can’t relate to him.
Posted by Marktastic86
Pismo Beach, CA
Member since Dec 2020
12506 posts
Posted on 2/5/22 at 3:24 pm to
quote:

"Don't believe the things you see," edge Derick Hall tweeted Friday. "@CoachHarsin works harder than no other man to put this program in the best position to be successful. ... Great man of character who loves this team!"

Nineteen Auburn players have entered the transfer portal since the end of the season.



Great follow-up line to that quote.
Posted by JetDawg
Los Angeles, California
Member since Oct 2020
7147 posts
Posted on 2/5/22 at 3:24 pm to
quote:

Kirby Smart has more personality than him.

Auburn's always been a DUMP-ster fire.
Posted by BLG
Georgia
Member since Mar 2018
7131 posts
Posted on 2/5/22 at 3:27 pm to
quote:

Auburn's always been a DUMP-ster fire.


but rival trash talk aside, assistant coaches and players don't deserve that, assuming it's true, and with as many players and coaches exiting, I would tend to think it is.
Posted by AU9377
Georgia
Member since Jan 2017
129 posts
Posted on 2/5/22 at 3:29 pm to
Harsin is a toxic person
Posted by Gaggle
Member since Oct 2021
5617 posts
Posted on 2/5/22 at 3:30 pm to
Toxic is the one of the gayest words in gay clown world. Please just shut up and find another way to describe people
Posted by AU9377
Georgia
Member since Jan 2017
129 posts
Posted on 2/5/22 at 3:30 pm to
I believe this because people that work inside the athletic department have been saying these things for months.
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