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Posted on 1/14/22 at 2:14 pm to Farmer1906
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the handcuffs on Saban and Bryan Harsin are removed. Look out.
Posted on 1/14/22 at 2:18 pm to PBD4BAMA
If all this is going to be is bidding wars then we are playing pro football and I am not a big fan of pro football.
Posted on 1/14/22 at 2:22 pm to PBD4BAMA
Surprised the politicians that spear headed it havent been killed yet.
Posted on 1/14/22 at 2:22 pm to bigDgator
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If all this is going to be is bidding wars then we are playing pro football and I am not a big fan of pro football.
Have you seen what A&M did and is proud of? College football is dead. Just paid mercenaries playing under a school name instead of students.
Posted on 1/14/22 at 2:24 pm to PBD4BAMA
So winning a title every couple of years isn’t enough for Bama? Screw these kids.
Posted on 1/14/22 at 2:31 pm to Champs
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yeah, he wasnt paying anyone illegally
This forum and fans around the country are just that obtuse. Most of them actually believe their favorite football team that won a ton of games and or championships did it the "clean" way
Lol
The more successful a program was pre-NIL just means your team was better at cheating. Every freaking program broke rules/cheated
Posted on 1/14/22 at 2:31 pm to PBD4BAMA
Court is in session. A verdict is in. No appeal on the docket today, just Coach Saban's own sin.
Posted on 1/14/22 at 2:37 pm to PBD4BAMA
Oh please. These “handcuffs” haven’t stopped Bama from doing anything they don’t want to do.
Posted on 1/14/22 at 2:44 pm to Bham Bammer
This is the biggest impediment but it's not exactly limiting for the NIL deal, more for the people who would potentially give it:
Compensation for a student athlete’s name, image, or likeness may not be conditioned on athletic performance or attendance at a particular postsecondary educational institution.
Current Alabama law, the NIL "giver" can't condition it to say, hey if you want this cash you have to attend Alabama or Auburn. That doesn't mean they can't give it, or they can't structure it in such a way (1 year contract) that it would have this effect though.
It makes it easier to structure the deal though if you don't have this impediment as it reduces the risk of the company/group giving the NIL cash.
Of course all of this is moot if the person giving the contract isn't in the actual State of Alabama. I presume at least a couple people who graduate from this prestigious institution can get jobs in other states right? -- I mean there are Burger Kings everywhere.
Compensation for a student athlete’s name, image, or likeness may not be conditioned on athletic performance or attendance at a particular postsecondary educational institution.
Current Alabama law, the NIL "giver" can't condition it to say, hey if you want this cash you have to attend Alabama or Auburn. That doesn't mean they can't give it, or they can't structure it in such a way (1 year contract) that it would have this effect though.
It makes it easier to structure the deal though if you don't have this impediment as it reduces the risk of the company/group giving the NIL cash.
Of course all of this is moot if the person giving the contract isn't in the actual State of Alabama. I presume at least a couple people who graduate from this prestigious institution can get jobs in other states right? -- I mean there are Burger Kings everywhere.
Posted on 1/14/22 at 2:45 pm to Mulkey Man
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Have you seen what A&M did and is proud of? College football is dead. Just paid mercenaries playing under a school name instead of students.
So basically a return to the way it was prior to the 1980's when it was legal and the 1980-2020 when it was being done under the covers?
Posted on 1/14/22 at 2:47 pm to Bham Bammer
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Right now state law prohibits tying NIL money to attending/playing for a school. This is the case in some states but is not the case in others. It's why Charlie Batch can get on Twitter and offer Caleb Williams $1 million to come to his school but an alum of Alabama can't do the same thing.
Correct. Those saying this changes nothing are once again in denial and stupid.
Posted on 1/14/22 at 2:48 pm to Bham Bammer
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It's why Charlie Batch can get on Twitter and offer Caleb Williams $1 million to come to his school but an alum of Alabama can't do the same thing.
Your alum has been paying players for decades and probably stepped things up big time once they were convinced Saban was the real deal.
Every school was guilty of this. Coach Fisher admitted this just last month? In the SWC its well documented and coaches stopped hiding what everyone already assumed
Its crazy that people still think football programs don't pay. Im referring to large sums of money. Not just $100 handshakes
Posted on 1/14/22 at 2:52 pm to DirtyDawg
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Bryce had a 7 figure NIL bundle before taking a meaningful snap. It worked out with him winning the Heisman and being a stud and all, but they seemingly had no issues with getting BY 7 figs with whatever law that is being referenced.
Bryce Young has legitimate business deals with actual corporations like Cash App, Leaf, Wild Card, Onyx, and Logan's Roadhouse, which is unlike some programs boosters providing pay for plays with sham businesses and charities.
This post was edited on 1/14/22 at 2:53 pm
Posted on 1/14/22 at 2:52 pm to Nitro Express
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Correct. Those saying this changes nothing are once again in denial and stupid.
I think I misread the law and thought that it was limiting institutions from making NLIs preconditional on attendance and was like "no shite, NCAA won't allow that anyway" but I see that "third party" phrase in it and read it differently now!
Yeah, that is a smart change to level the playing field and a realistic factor in the open market. If I'm a software shop in Alabama that mostly sells the product in Alabama, I probably would only want to get into contracts with college athletes for advertising so long as they're University of Alabama or Auburn University athletes.
Posted on 1/14/22 at 2:59 pm to Bham Bammer
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Right now state law prohibits tying NIL money to attending/playing for a school. This is the case in some states but is not the case in others. It's why Charlie Batch can get on Twitter and offer Caleb Williams $1 million to come to his school but an alum of Alabama can't do the same thing.
State laws are impactful for that state, but when say the Texas AGG$$ come in and entice a player from another state, say the top 5 star player from TENN, nothing the state of TENN can do about it as they have no authority over Texas Law (which I guess allows it).
Only way to solve the NIL for recruits is Federal Legislation where it is codified as "Bribery" that is a promise to give you NIL $$$$ if you sign to play for my school before the player has ever played a down for the team and made contribution to the team winning games.
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So that way a Kid signs with a school, that player can't get an NIL deal until he effectively plays snaps. If for example a guy live Trevor Lawrence starts lighting it up his Freshman year at Clemson, then NIL contract makes sense.
Everyone use to worry about the NCAA infractions committee camping out on your campus, imagine if NIL$$$ for signing the Scholarship is codified under Federal law as a Bribe. Nobody, Nobody, wants the FBI snooping around your campus. Only way this will be regulated properly is by the Federal Government (which Saban, correctly in my opinion, has suggested).
This post was edited on 1/14/22 at 3:01 pm
Posted on 1/14/22 at 3:01 pm to PBD4BAMA
Didn’t realize AL had an NIL law
Posted on 1/14/22 at 3:08 pm to MackDaddyBrown
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Boy these gumps gonna be in for a big surprise
Yeah, Texas is the richest and nobody can ever compete. Same shite from Texas fans my entire life.
I would say Texas fans are in for the big surprise, but the truth is you fricks never learn.
It's not about how much money you have, it's about how much you are willing to spend. That's why you keep buying OC for 4-5million from teams that buy real coaches.
This post was edited on 1/14/22 at 3:10 pm
Posted on 1/14/22 at 3:10 pm to Old Hellen Yeller
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Didn’t realize AL had an NIL law
It both enabled and restricted it at the same time. Looks like they are just going to get rid of the restrictions, which would mean it will be up to NCAA restrictions only.
Posted on 1/14/22 at 3:10 pm to 3down10
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Yeah, Texas is the richest and nobody can ever compete. Same shite from Texas fans my entire life.
I would say Texas fans are in for the big surprise, but the truth is you fricks never learn.
It's not about how much money you have, it's about how much you are willing to spend. That's why you keep buying OC for 4-5million from teams that buy real coaches.
No one will be able to keep up with the Texas schools if they honestly go 100% all in on NIL.
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