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re: The Wild Wild West will look tame compared to what is possibly weeks away…
Posted on 2/7/24 at 8:46 am to Smokeys Howl
Posted on 2/7/24 at 8:46 am to Smokeys Howl
quote:Seems appropriate to me
Forget to dot an 'i' at Tennessee on some random piece of paper? MUH DEATH PENALTY.
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Posted on 2/7/24 at 8:50 am to Smokeys Howl
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Yeah, you were cheating.
That's what this is all about. You can't anymore, and you hate that.
You don't have the money to compete with Tennessee, not with everything in the open.
Not even after two natties.
I hope you enjoyed those natties, you'll never win another, being such a piss poor fanbase.
UGA is worth 160% of what UT is worth according to both universities. UGA grads earn 114% of what a UT grad earns. UGA has 113% of UTs alumni base. Georgias GDP is 153% that of Tennessee. Per capita DGP in Georgia is 112% of that in Tennessee. Georgia's population is 156% that of Tennessee. For every kid in Tennessee signed to a FBS (DIV 1) football scholarship 4 from Georgia are signed to a FBS scholarship - the number of "blue chips" is close to 6-1 in favor of Georgia. There is no elimination of any rules which will level the playing field between UGA and Tennessee...There are simply more resources in Athens than there is in Knoxville and more opportunity in Georgia than there is in Tennessee. Add this to your knowing beyond doubt that UGA has a looooonnnnggggg headstart, despite having never been on any kind of NCAA probation while UT is currently on probation and there is no logical reason to assume that UGA, with more resources and more opportunities and a long head start to operating without any regard to rules and doing so without getting caught will not continue to own the Vols and own the Vols handidly.
Posted on 2/7/24 at 8:53 am to SaturdayNAthens
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If that should happen - please God! Let it happen - I would think the SEC would step in and regulate the conference as well as they could given the stupid court rulings.
The problem with that is that the SEC lives in Alabama.. so how do you think that's going to go for any other team that is not Alabama?
I like the idea of our confernece taking everything over, but things need to change in the SEC for that to be fair for everybody. We would basically be looking at the old South West Conference and Texas situation again.
Posted on 2/7/24 at 8:57 am to bengalfan50
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If the NCAA goes away nothing is regulated anymore….everything you know about how college sports, all college sports and how they work will be erased in one day….
Not a fan of the NCAA at all.
If the NCAA goes away, it will be because they were replaced by a ruling body from the 2 superconferences. Not sure why this is that hard to grasp. It will be an end to all the NIL and portal mayhem.
Posted on 2/7/24 at 8:58 am to Hellmet
The real problem with conferences self regulating is it will fall apart immediately. Let's say the SEC agrees to pay players no more than $80K but the Big Ten will go to $100K. It immediately makes the SEC irrelevant.
What will happen no matter what is another NCAA type organization.
What will happen no matter what is another NCAA type organization.
Posted on 2/7/24 at 9:01 am to NukemVol
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And the Wild Wild West refers to murder. And that's still legal in the NCAA. Ask Brian Kelly or Nate Oats.
Maaaaannnnn.....what a little bitch
Posted on 2/7/24 at 9:08 am to bengalfan50
Fun fact: the Wild wild West was never as wild as the Northeastern dime novelists made it out to be. In fact many of the authors never ventured further west than Philly, and the tales got taller with time and popularity of the genre.
Having said that, the NCAA either needs to restructure itself or wave bye bye. We need some sort of regulation and standardization, just pretty sure the NCAA has proven they aren't the best way to do it.
Having said that, the NCAA either needs to restructure itself or wave bye bye. We need some sort of regulation and standardization, just pretty sure the NCAA has proven they aren't the best way to do it.
Posted on 2/7/24 at 9:12 am to AwgustaDawg
quote:I was just about to blow up your entire argument until I realized you were talking about Tenner. No idea if your figures are right or even close, but carry on.
UGA is worth 160% of what UT is worth according to both universities. UGA grads earn 114% of what a UT grad earns. UGA has 113% of UTs alumni base. Georgias GDP is 153% that of Tennessee. Per capita DGP in Georgia is 112% of that in Tennessee. Georgia's population is 156% that of Tennessee. For every kid in Tennessee signed to a FBS (DIV 1) football scholarship 4 from Georgia are signed to a FBS scholarship - the number of "blue chips" is close to 6-1 in favor of Georgia. There is no elimination of any rules which will level the playing field between UGA and Tennessee...There are simply more resources in Athens than there is in Knoxville and more opportunity in Georgia than there is in Tennessee. Add this to your knowing beyond doubt that UGA has a looooonnnnggggg headstart, despite having never been on any kind of NCAA probation while UT is currently on probation and there is no logical reason to assume that UGA, with more resources and more opportunities and a long head start to operating without any regard to rules and doing so without getting caught will not continue to own the Vols and own the Vols handidly.
Posted on 2/7/24 at 9:21 am to SaturdayNAthens
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If that should happen - please God! Let it happen - I would think the SEC would step in and regulate the conference as well as they could given the stupid court rulings.
They won't be able to.
The NCAA will go away simply because the courts would take away their reason for existing. The SEC couldn't step in and regulate if the courts say regulation is not allowed.
What we'll have is no rule for the conferences or for college football, but each state will have an individual slate of laws for NIL. Some states have no laws, and schools there will be able to whatever they want, including giving a player money tied directly to coming to a school.
Some schools will have state rules that prevent them from doing that, so you can have a scenario where Alabama (a state that has NO NIL laws on the books) can do whatever they want to in terms of paying players while Tennessee (which has NIL laws) is unable to do so. The courts will make it so that there is no overriding NIL rule, only the state rules apply. This will create an uneven playing field which will benefit schools in states with no NIL laws on the books the most (like Alabama).
I don't know if Tennessee realizes they're setting Alabama up for more success with their lawsuit.
Posted on 2/7/24 at 9:22 am to DawginSC
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the courts say regulation is not allowed.
The courts aren't saying this.
Posted on 2/7/24 at 9:29 am to jonnyanony
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The courts aren't saying this.
There is only one regulation on the books for NIL (no pay for play). Tennessee is suing to make that regulation go away.
If they win, regulations of NIL will have been completely disallowed. It will be okay to have boosters/collectives sign contracts with players that say "you can have 2 million dollars a year if you attend UT. If you transfer elsewhere, you have to pay all the money back."
Yes, it effectively ends all regulation of NIL.
Posted on 2/7/24 at 9:32 am to DawginSC
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Yes, it effectively ends all regulation of NIL.
But it doesn't end all regulation. And most importantly, the schools will still be able to mitigate the effects of NIL by paying players, adding a draft, and having contracts.
Which is how the rest of the world operates.
Posted on 2/7/24 at 9:36 am to DawginSC
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There is only one regulation on the books for NIL (no pay for play)
You just paid your quarterback a million dollars to come back his senior season.
You really have no clue how stupid you look, do you?
Posted on 2/7/24 at 10:04 am to Smokeys Howl
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You just paid your quarterback a million dollars to come back his senior season.
You really have no clue how stupid you look, do you?
YOu don't have to broadcast how you don't understand this stuff, but you keep doing so.
UGA's NIL setup is exactly what the NCAA wants schools to do. UGA collectives don't offer big NIL deals to recruits. They offer big NIL deals to players who've developed name recognition while at UGA... because they're playing and playing well. All of UGA's highest NIL earners are starters.
This is what the NCAA wants with NIL. They want NIL dollars to be a reward for players who get name recognition due to on the field success.
This is not "pay to play for a particular school". This is "getting paid for playing well".
I can tell by the fact you keep repeating that you think UGA boosters are paying players to play for UGA that you don't understand this. I get that it's beyond your ability to comprehend. But I'll make it really simple for you.
The NCAA is cool with a starter like Carson Beck getting big NIL deals because he's the starter for UGA and that got him a certain amount of fame.
They are not cool with a high school kid like Nico Imnotgonnalearntopronouncehislastname getting a big NIL deal to come play for Tennessee without actually having done anything to develop any Name, Image or Likeness that can be justified to be worth the money.
Beck isn't being paid to come to UGA. He's being paid BECAUSE his Name, Image and Likeness have value because he's the starter at UGA. The former is against NCAA rules. The latter is embraced by the NCAA. If you can't understand the difference, you really should stop trying to post on this subject due to an inability to comprehend the subject matter.
This post was edited on 2/7/24 at 10:06 am
Posted on 2/7/24 at 10:51 am to 49 to nada
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I was just about to blow up your entire argument until I realized you were talking about Tenner. No idea if your figures are right or even close, but carry on.
As a group we are gonna have to reconcile this whole UT thing LOL! I am surprised someone ain't been called to Sonic over that misunderstanding...
Posted on 2/7/24 at 11:28 am to bengalfan50
That’s why The Big 10 and SEC had a meeting I would think to decide what they are going to do. But anything they do can’t interfere with NIL. So lord if I know what we will end up with. I don’t know if they can somehow cap NIL or not.
Posted on 2/7/24 at 11:42 am to AwgustaDawg
You replied to this:
With this?
NIL is about the size of the fanbase, not the price of the weight benches in the equipment room. And you just can't keep up with us.
Which is why NICO told you to fkoff and came to UT. We're rich. You're poor.
Dumbass.
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piss poor fanbase.
With this?
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UGA is worth 160% of what UT is worth according to both universities.
NIL is about the size of the fanbase, not the price of the weight benches in the equipment room. And you just can't keep up with us.
Which is why NICO told you to fkoff and came to UT. We're rich. You're poor.
Dumbass.
Posted on 2/7/24 at 11:44 am to Loganville Vols
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I don’t know if they can somehow cap NIL or not.
Of course they can. Collective bargaining.
Posted on 2/7/24 at 11:45 am to DawginSC
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Beck isn't being paid to come to UGA
He is being paid...to play.
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This is what the NCAA wants with NIL. They want NIL dollars to be a reward for players who get name recognition due to on the field success.
Unfortunately after the 13th they won't get a say anymore. They and all their shills in the UGA and GUMP fanbase (people like you) will have to bend over and take it.
This post was edited on 2/7/24 at 11:48 am
Posted on 2/7/24 at 11:47 am to NukemVol
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or Nate Oats.
Strange take bro. Can you name the Alabama player that killed someone?
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