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The way Carolina handled gun issues vs Bama

Posted on 2/22/23 at 3:06 pm
Posted by GamecockUltimate
Columbia,SC
Member since Feb 2019
6748 posts
Posted on 2/22/23 at 3:06 pm
The gamecocks had two football players suspended from the team indefinitely and out of school for simply being in the same room and not telling on another player who had a gun in the room. Thats probably the same thing anyone would do if their buddy brought a gun and an RM check happened.


Yet, tonight our basketball team is playing against a classless coach, and sad school in Alabama that is going to play a kid who delivered a gun to a murderer. How do Bama fans even think what is happening is normal?
Posted by Flipper94
Member since Dec 2022
377 posts
Posted on 2/22/23 at 3:07 pm to
And you’ll lose.
Posted by ForeverGator
Elite 8 - 2020 Worst SECRant Poster
Member since Nov 2012
13005 posts
Posted on 2/22/23 at 3:07 pm to
Because they're gump idiots with no morals.
Posted by Flipper94
Member since Dec 2022
377 posts
Posted on 2/22/23 at 3:08 pm to
Correct we don’t care
Posted by smoke225
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2007
7865 posts
Posted on 2/22/23 at 3:08 pm to
Hopefully your fanbase shows up tonight and gives them hell all game!
Posted by GamecockUltimate
Columbia,SC
Member since Feb 2019
6748 posts
Posted on 2/22/23 at 3:08 pm to
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And you’ll lose.



Cool...you dont need Miller to beat us. Its not about basketball my guy, its about doing things the right way.
Posted by Faurot fodder
Member since Jul 2019
2252 posts
Posted on 2/22/23 at 3:11 pm to
I think you might be too stupid to put enough thought into something to care about it.
Posted by Flipper94
Member since Dec 2022
377 posts
Posted on 2/22/23 at 3:13 pm to
Loser mentality
Posted by iconucon
St. Louis
Member since Jan 2018
1179 posts
Posted on 2/22/23 at 3:14 pm to
What your school did was the right thing. What Bama has done so far is make excuses for a player who did the wrong thing.

I just read this insightful column from the Tuscaloosa News. He is fair but roasts Miller and Oats.

LINK /


'Wrong spot, wrong time'? Wrong answer for Alabama basketball coach Nate Oats

Chase Goodbread
The Tuscaloosa News

Wrong spot? Wrong time? How about wrong decision?

"Wrong spot at the wrong time," is how Alabama basketball coach Nate Oats described star forward Brandon Miller's connection to the January shooting death of 23-year-old Jamea Harris on Grace Street, just off the Tuscaloosa Strip. In courtroom testimony Tuesday, Tuscaloosa Violent Crimes Unit investigator Branden Culpepper said that Miller responded to a text from former teammate Darius Miles asking him to bring Miles' handgun to the scene by doing exactly that. According to police, Miles then gave the gun to Michael Davis, who allegedly shot and killed Harris.

Wrong spot at the wrong time implies random bad luck. It implies the misfortune, through no fault of one's own, to find oneself in a bad situation. If you're struck by lightning, that's wrong spot, wrong time.

That doesn't apply to Miller whatsoever, at least not based on Culpepper's testimony. It's important, amid these new revelations in the case, to note that Miller, who has remained eligible to play all season, has not been charged with any crime. What his intentions were, or what he knew of Miles' or Davis' intentions, hasn't been established. Presumably, the fact that he's not been charged suggests police can't connect such a dot.

But, per Culpepper, Miller chose to bring Miles' handgun to the scene, and chose to give it to him.

Wrong spot, wrong time? Wrong answer, coach.

Is it hard to imagine Miller didn't know trouble was brewing? Of course it is. Why else would Miles text him such a request? At the same time, I won't assume what Miller knew or didn't know here. In time, progress in the court case - Miles and Davis have been charged with capital murder - could reveal more details.

But this much can be said now, before the wheels of justice roll another inch: if Miller brought Miles a handgun as Culpepper testified, that's a bafflingly terrible decision for a guy who is five months away from being a first-round lottery pick in the NBA draft. It's an awful decision, to be clear, for anyone. But Miller has the brightest basketball future of anyone on the UA roster. He's unquestionably the best player on what is quite possibly the best college basketball team in America.

NBA scouts are going to dig deep on this, and they're not going to stop with a character recommendation from Oats. Some NBA club is going to make Miller a multi-millionaire, but some other club might come away from its due diligence on his connection to the case and pass on the 6-foot-9 freshman whose time in Tuscaloosa has never been expected to last any longer than one basketball season.

As for Oats, he doesn't look good in this, either.

If testimony Tuesday was accurate, it is difficult to fathom how Miller hasn't incurred team discipline, even absent a criminal charge. Team discipline and criminal charges often go hand in hand, but they don't have to go hand in hand. An arrest doesn't have to be a predicate for a suspension. A day after the shooting, in his first public remarks about Miles' arrest, the coach was asked directly if any of his players other than Miles were involved. His answer: "Our entire remaining team is traveling to Nashville and will be available to play in the game tomorrow."

Did Oats know of Miller's actions, or that point guard Jaden Bradley was also at the scene according to court testimony, at the time that remark was made? If he did, his answer was evasive at best. But at least it wasn't flat-out wrong.

Wrong spot, wrong time? If that applies to anyone in this sad and tragic case, it would much better describe the victim.

Based on court testimony, it doesn't describe Miller at all.

Reach Chase Goodbread at cgoodbread@gannett.com. Follow on Twitter @chasegoodbread.
Tuscaloosa News sport columnist Chase Goodbread.
This post was edited on 2/22/23 at 3:20 pm
Posted by GamecockUltimate
Columbia,SC
Member since Feb 2019
6748 posts
Posted on 2/22/23 at 3:16 pm to
quote:

What your school did was the right thing. What Bama has done so far is make excuses for a player who did the wrong thing.


and none of our fans defended the kids. We admitted they were dumb and the school wasnt at fault. We hope the kids learn from their mistakes and make it back.
Posted by deathvalleytiger10
Member since Sep 2009
7557 posts
Posted on 2/22/23 at 3:36 pm to
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a character recommendation from Oats.
Posted by iconucon
St. Louis
Member since Jan 2018
1179 posts
Posted on 2/22/23 at 3:36 pm to
A good example every single school should follow.
Posted by Prof
Member since Jun 2013
42610 posts
Posted on 2/22/23 at 3:41 pm to
Tonight the entire nation will be Gamecock fans. I hope your students shred BAMA. And I'm not saying that because they're our main rival. This is wrong. It just is.
Posted by Lonnie Utah
Utah!
Member since Jul 2012
23869 posts
Posted on 2/22/23 at 3:45 pm to
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Cool...you dont need Miller to beat us. Its not about basketball my guy, its about doing things the right way.



Spike Lee does not appove.

Posted by UncleFestersLegs
Member since Nov 2010
10808 posts
Posted on 2/22/23 at 3:47 pm to
Go cocks!
Posted by Slackaveli
Fayetteville
Member since Jul 2017
15163 posts
Posted on 2/22/23 at 3:48 pm to
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Hopefully your fanbase shows up tonight and gives them hell all game!
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Posted by mbogo
Member since Oct 2012
2543 posts
Posted on 2/22/23 at 3:57 pm to
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Because they're gump idiots with no morals.



What is the basis for your morals?
Posted by PerrillouxToTexas
Member since Sep 2022
5151 posts
Posted on 2/22/23 at 3:58 pm to
Expecting bumpkins from Alabama to have morals or the ability to reason is a fool's errand. Sports is all they have and literally why they get out of bed in the morning.
Posted by Murph4HOF
A-T-L-A-N-T-A (that's where I stay)
Member since Sep 2019
11083 posts
Posted on 2/22/23 at 4:01 pm to
The rule about not being able to possess guns on college campuses is stupid.
Posted by mbogo
Member since Oct 2012
2543 posts
Posted on 2/22/23 at 4:08 pm to
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Expecting bumpkins from Alabama to have morals or the ability to reason is a fool's errand. Sports is all they have and literally why they get out of bed in the morning.



What are your morals based on, so we can get an idea of where they originate?
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