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re: The time that Sam Pittman turned down Nick Saban
Posted on 2/27/21 at 10:34 am to gohogs141
Posted on 2/27/21 at 10:34 am to gohogs141
He wouldn't have won consistently 10 games a year. Nutt averaged 7.5 wins a year. Petrino would have raised it to a 8 or 9 win average. No losing seasons. His recruiting would have to get better if it was going to get higher. But the point is, he is a superior coach than Nutt and would have elevated the program higher.
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Posted on 2/27/21 at 10:35 am to DuckTalesLOL
The REAL story...
“So my mother called me and said ‘are you fking crazy?’ She thought I had lost my mind turning Saban down. I think deep down inside she has the hots for Nick and thought I would introduce her had I taken that job.”
“But I like it here at Arkansas. Their fans are a little weird with exception to a few on tRant. “
“I used to make fun of them growing up. I’d yell stuff like ‘HERE LITTLE PIGGIES’ , my mom loved that.”
“Anyway, I’m glad I have a job and things could be worse. In 3 years my OL will have five guys 6’9” - 345 Lbs and we will run the ball on everyone. Not even Nick will stop that. Even if I fail I know I will always beat Ole Miss”
“So my mother called me and said ‘are you fking crazy?’ She thought I had lost my mind turning Saban down. I think deep down inside she has the hots for Nick and thought I would introduce her had I taken that job.”
“But I like it here at Arkansas. Their fans are a little weird with exception to a few on tRant. “
“I used to make fun of them growing up. I’d yell stuff like ‘HERE LITTLE PIGGIES’ , my mom loved that.”
“Anyway, I’m glad I have a job and things could be worse. In 3 years my OL will have five guys 6’9” - 345 Lbs and we will run the ball on everyone. Not even Nick will stop that. Even if I fail I know I will always beat Ole Miss”
Posted on 2/27/21 at 10:38 am to dchog
quote:Petrino and Nutt are very similar. They worked hard and won when they wanted to. When they didn't, the just quit and decided to burn programs to the ground.
But the point is, he is a superior coach than Nutt and would have elevated the program higher.
Petrino did just that his last stint at Louisville. I have only seen a team quit on a coach twice in person. The 2008 Egg Bowl when State players quit on Croom, then 2018 when Louisville players quit on Petrino against Wake Forest.
Petrino quit trying just like Nutt did at Ole Miss in 2010 and 2011.
Posted on 2/27/21 at 10:43 am to gohogs141
He only won it once outright in 2006. He split it with State but they won the tiebreaker in 1998. They only won it because Alabama was on probation and didn't deserve to face off against Georgia.
If Matt Jones wasn't on campus in 2001 then Nutt would be fired after the 2002 season after two consecutive losing seasons.
If Matt Jones wasn't on campus in 2001 then Nutt would be fired after the 2002 season after two consecutive losing seasons.
Posted on 2/27/21 at 11:18 am to Henry Jones Jr
I know a CFL GM that talks to these coaches all over the nation as he is a scout.
He is friends with Nutt and was at his house. I called him one day and he said he was at Nutt's house and Nutt was laying on the couch while his wife was flipping burgers. I met him one day and was an arse and never looked at my direction after I said hello but talked to my GM friend only when he introduced me to Nutt. Nutt never had a reputation as a hard worker and was an egomaniac in real life.
I don't have anything on Petrino as far as personal accounts but he sure as hell wouldn't let his own wife flip his burgers for him and he was such a workaholic that he made his assistants for hours look at film late at night.
Petrino was very analytical and would spend hours explaining how this was or wasn't going to work. Nutt would throw shite on the wall and hoping it would stick in his game plans.
Petrino never quit but was fired. After that he wasn't the same and it broke him. He was burned out at Louisville. He lost his mojo.
Nutt looked for jobs after losing three straight games to end the season in 2006 but no one wanted him. He quit mentally going into the 2007 season because he already had agreed to take the Ole Miss job in August and would be introduced after the LSU game. So he didn't give a shite and the results showed.
He knew that his recruiting would get the best of him and after 2007, he was looking at getting fired after the departures and future losing seasons a head. So he bolted to Ole Miss just in tine.
Arkansas was duped into keeping him for so long and Ole Miss was duped into getting a real coach.
He is friends with Nutt and was at his house. I called him one day and he said he was at Nutt's house and Nutt was laying on the couch while his wife was flipping burgers. I met him one day and was an arse and never looked at my direction after I said hello but talked to my GM friend only when he introduced me to Nutt. Nutt never had a reputation as a hard worker and was an egomaniac in real life.
I don't have anything on Petrino as far as personal accounts but he sure as hell wouldn't let his own wife flip his burgers for him and he was such a workaholic that he made his assistants for hours look at film late at night.
Petrino was very analytical and would spend hours explaining how this was or wasn't going to work. Nutt would throw shite on the wall and hoping it would stick in his game plans.
Petrino never quit but was fired. After that he wasn't the same and it broke him. He was burned out at Louisville. He lost his mojo.
Nutt looked for jobs after losing three straight games to end the season in 2006 but no one wanted him. He quit mentally going into the 2007 season because he already had agreed to take the Ole Miss job in August and would be introduced after the LSU game. So he didn't give a shite and the results showed.
He knew that his recruiting would get the best of him and after 2007, he was looking at getting fired after the departures and future losing seasons a head. So he bolted to Ole Miss just in tine.
Arkansas was duped into keeping him for so long and Ole Miss was duped into getting a real coach.
Posted on 2/27/21 at 11:56 am to DuckTalesLOL
his decision shows a lot of character, but for most coaches accepting Saban's turned out to be the best decision they ever made
Posted on 2/27/21 at 11:59 am to RollTide1987
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Petrino was more than just a flash in the pan. He would have had Arkansas in competition for the SEC West on a consistent basis had he not taken a ride on his motorcycle that day.
Nah. Look how he flamed out at Louisville in an easier conference.
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Arkansas should have gone 11-2 or even 12-1 in 2010 but they lost to Alabama in a game they should have won as they were the better team for 3 1/2 quarters that day. They also should have beaten Ohio State in the Sugar Bowl but herp derped inside the red zone in the final minutes.
Well if we’re talking fantasy, 2011 should have been 8-4, and he should have lost to a horrible Ole Miss team and a horrible Vandy team. Got lucky in both games.
Posted on 2/27/21 at 12:15 pm to Stonehog
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Look how he flamed out at Louisville in an easier conference.
After his reputation had suffered in the aftermath of the motorcycle incident. Parents didn't want their kids playing for an adulterer who got fired from his job because of it. Thus it became more difficult for Petrino to recruit and he wasn't the greatest recruiter in the world to begin with.
Posted on 2/27/21 at 1:03 pm to RollTide1987
Not buying that, he already had a bad reputation for how he left Atlanta.
Posted on 2/27/21 at 2:01 pm to Stonehog
Yes If Nutt was the coach then it would be 8-4 and another bowl loss at 8-5. But Petrino coached that team to 11 wins without SEC leading rusher Knile Davis who was out for the year and an injured Greg Childs that didn't recover.
Posted on 2/28/21 at 6:59 am to Stonehog
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Not buying that, he already had a bad reputation for how he left Atlanta.
So did Nick Saban with how he left Miami and it didn't seem to hurt him.
There's a difference between quitting your job because you don't like it and getting caught up in a public scandal where you're cheating on your wife with a university employee.
Posted on 2/28/21 at 7:18 am to RollTide1987
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After his reputation had suffered in the aftermath of the motorcycle incident. Parents didn't want their kids playing for an adulterer who got fired from his job because of it. Thus it became more difficult for Petrino to recruit and he wasn't the greatest recruiter in the world to begin with.
Ultimately recruiting is still most of it. I don't think a lot of kids mine playing for a tough-minded coach. But few want to play for a butt-hole of a person. Petrino was such a coach.
Posted on 2/28/21 at 10:32 am to RollTide1987
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So did Nick Saban with how he left Miami and it didn't seem to hurt him.
Why on earth would you make this comparison? Petrino wasn’t a good recruiter before the motorcycle accident. You’re blaming Petrino flaming out at Louisville on bad recruiting due to the scandal that happened years prior. And he still had a Heisman winner. You’re all over the place.
This post was edited on 2/28/21 at 10:42 am
Posted on 2/28/21 at 11:40 am to DuckTalesLOL
It is what it is. Both coaches are right. CSP for not quitting a job he just took, and CNS for trying to lure him, even though he appeared to be 2 weeks too late. 
Posted on 2/28/21 at 11:43 am to Stonehog
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Petrino wasn’t a good recruiter before the motorcycle accident.
What does Petrino's reputation in the aftermath of his departure from Atlanta have to do with college football recruiting?
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And he still had a Heisman winner.
A three-star athlete out of high school who was ranked 409th overall in the country by the 247 Composite. This speaks to Petrino's talent evaluation and coaching ability.
This post was edited on 2/28/21 at 11:49 am
Posted on 2/28/21 at 1:02 pm to DuckTalesLOL
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‘I don’t know how hard you’re thinking about this, but I didn’t raise a son that would commit to a place and 4 weeks later, leave,’”
Posted on 2/28/21 at 1:16 pm to Stonehog
You are high as a kite.
Houston Nutt was, is, and always will be a scumbag.....
And lucky.
PRJ
Houston Nutt was, is, and always will be a scumbag.....
And lucky.
PRJ
This post was edited on 2/28/21 at 3:32 pm
Posted on 2/28/21 at 1:24 pm to RollTide1987
Petrino was a decent recruiter but he lacked the coaching staff that could have made a huge difference.
He lacked charisma that could have helped him become a better closer. He has a dry personality that rubs people the wrong way.
But no doubt his strength is his playcalling abilities, diamond in the rough talent evaluation and his game planning.
He lacked charisma that could have helped him become a better closer. He has a dry personality that rubs people the wrong way.
But no doubt his strength is his playcalling abilities, diamond in the rough talent evaluation and his game planning.
Posted on 2/28/21 at 1:30 pm to RollTide1987
I love this revisionist shite.
Houston Nutt was an adulter. He was a scumbag, running around with a TV news anchor. 10 minutes before a bowl, against Wisconsin, when he should've been preparing for a game, he is texting Donna Bragg, a woman that wasn't his wife, non damn stop.
We got throttled.
He ran a hit job on an 18 year old kid.
He is a scumbag
PRJ
Houston Nutt was an adulter. He was a scumbag, running around with a TV news anchor. 10 minutes before a bowl, against Wisconsin, when he should've been preparing for a game, he is texting Donna Bragg, a woman that wasn't his wife, non damn stop.
We got throttled.
He ran a hit job on an 18 year old kid.
He is a scumbag
PRJ
This post was edited on 2/28/21 at 1:31 pm
Posted on 2/28/21 at 1:43 pm to RollTide1987
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What does Petrino's reputation in the aftermath of his departure from Atlanta have to do with college football recruiting?
You said he couldn’t recruit at Louisville because he had a bad reputation. He’s never had a good reputation in his entire career.
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